Is there a tipping point , full pay?

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Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.

My UMiami full pay kid did great, went on to a T7 MBA program and is well-employed.


Undergrad is really fairly irrelevant for getting an MBA. You are leaving out where your kid was employed after Miami and pre-MBA...that is more important and relevant.

They were well-enough employed directly from U Miami to get accepted to the MBA. That's the point.


I get it...but it is actually valuable information to this thread as to where they were employed. Most people don't care about getting an MBA, but are interested to know the opportunities available direct from UMiami undergrad.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Did you child actually get into UVA? Or if they are yet to go through applications, what if they get declined at UVA? What will you do then?


Two of my kids went to UVA, yes. Another got into William & Mary but didn’t apply to UVA because it wasn’t for them. They ended up at Grinnell where they got 1/2 tuition merit aid. Wouldn’t have gone there otherwise. Also got into Carleton and Wesleyan but they don’t give merit aid. They liked Grinnell best anyway so it worked out.

We don’t throw money away needlessly just because we have it. That’s stupid. Yet people do it on colleges every day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


I'm just going to say it: none of those schools impress me. They're fine schools, but aside from accepting a lot of ivy cast-offs, I don't see the appeal.

I would full-pay for Williams, Pomona, Amherst. Possibly Wesleyan, Haverford, Vassar, etc. It may just be that I expect different things from an undergraduate education.

That's great for you, and maybe for your kid. My own kid would not consider any of these school, even for free. But kid has a fully funded 529 and can choose their best fit thankfully.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Did you child actually get into UVA? Or if they are yet to go through applications, what if they get declined at UVA? What will you do then?


Two of my kids went to UVA, yes. Another got into William & Mary but didn’t apply to UVA because it wasn’t for them. They ended up at Grinnell where they got 1/2 tuition merit aid. Wouldn’t have gone there otherwise. Also got into Carleton and Wesleyan but they don’t give merit aid. They liked Grinnell best anyway so it worked out.

We don’t throw money away needlessly just because we have it. That’s stupid. Yet people do it on colleges every day.

spoken from the lady whose kids were accepted at a top inexpensive school. You know that's not how it works for all people, rich or not?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.

My UMiami full pay kid did great, went on to a T7 MBA program and is well-employed.


Undergrad is really fairly irrelevant for getting an MBA. You are leaving out where your kid was employed after Miami and pre-MBA...that is more important and relevant.

They were well-enough employed directly from U Miami to get accepted to the MBA. That's the point.


I get it...but it is actually valuable information to this thread as to where they were employed. Most people don't care about getting an MBA, but are interested to know the opportunities available direct from UMiami undergrad.

Goldman
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Did you child actually get into UVA? Or if they are yet to go through applications, what if they get declined at UVA? What will you do then?


Two of my kids went to UVA, yes. Another got into William & Mary but didn’t apply to UVA because it wasn’t for them. They ended up at Grinnell where they got 1/2 tuition merit aid. Wouldn’t have gone there otherwise. Also got into Carleton and Wesleyan but they don’t give merit aid. They liked Grinnell best anyway so it worked out.

We don’t throw money away needlessly just because we have it. That’s stupid. Yet people do it on colleges every day.

spoken from the lady whose kids were accepted at a top inexpensive school. You know that's not how it works for all people, rich or not?


Sure. But if your kid isn’t getting into UVA in state then they’re not getting into a top private school either. At best they’re getting into a second tier one with some merit. No thanks.
Anonymous
Full pay with ED gives a decent boost imo
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


You should go to the best school that is the best fit for the student that can be afforded. Full stop.

There are a lot of families and I mean a lot that can just pay full freight. For those people money should not be an object. Go to the best school you can get into that is the best fit for you. Cost be dammed.

There are others where full pay is not a no brainer. Afford is the key thing. Loans should not be taken if at all possible.
Anonymous
Well we can certainly see why the schools charge exorbitant tuitions now. Parents who will pay any cost. Guess you don’t care that you are part of the problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Did you child actually get into UVA? Or if they are yet to go through applications, what if they get declined at UVA? What will you do then?


Two of my kids went to UVA, yes. Another got into William & Mary but didn’t apply to UVA because it wasn’t for them. They ended up at Grinnell where they got 1/2 tuition merit aid. Wouldn’t have gone there otherwise. Also got into Carleton and Wesleyan but they don’t give merit aid. They liked Grinnell best anyway so it worked out.

We don’t throw money away needlessly just because we have it. That’s stupid. Yet people do it on colleges every day.

spoken from the lady whose kids were accepted at a top inexpensive school. You know that's not how it works for all people, rich or not?


Sure. But if your kid isn’t getting into UVA in state then they’re not getting into a top private school either. At best they’re getting into a second tier one with some merit. No thanks.

so if your kids didn't get into a top 25, you'd refuse to pay for college? Rich people can be awful and so self-righteous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well we can certainly see why the schools charge exorbitant tuitions now. Parents who will pay any cost. Guess you don’t care that you are part of the problem.

We're subsidizing your kids. You're welcome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.

My UMiami full pay kid did great, went on to a T7 MBA program and is well-employed.


Undergrad is really fairly irrelevant for getting an MBA. You are leaving out where your kid was employed after Miami and pre-MBA...that is more important and relevant.

They were well-enough employed directly from U Miami to get accepted to the MBA. That's the point.


I get it...but it is actually valuable information to this thread as to where they were employed. Most people don't care about getting an MBA, but are interested to know the opportunities available direct from UMiami undergrad.

Goldman


I think you probably making that up...because why would you leave that out the first go...but, yeah that is way more relevant and helpful then attending a T7 MBA.
Anonymous
I'd pay where ever my child wants to attend. But I also recognize that we are lucky to have the resources to do that and our children are good students who value learning and will take advantage of opportunities at places they choose. They also take competing merit offers into account - our first turned down a generous offer at one school, but it was hard for them to justify going to that school given their other options.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Did you child actually get into UVA? Or if they are yet to go through applications, what if they get declined at UVA? What will you do then?


Two of my kids went to UVA, yes. Another got into William & Mary but didn’t apply to UVA because it wasn’t for them. They ended up at Grinnell where they got 1/2 tuition merit aid. Wouldn’t have gone there otherwise. Also got into Carleton and Wesleyan but they don’t give merit aid. They liked Grinnell best anyway so it worked out.

We don’t throw money away needlessly just because we have it. That’s stupid. Yet people do it on colleges every day.

spoken from the lady whose kids were accepted at a top inexpensive school. You know that's not how it works for all people, rich or not?


Sure. But if your kid isn’t getting into UVA in state then they’re not getting into a top private school either. At best they’re getting into a second tier one with some merit. No thanks.

so if your kids didn't get into a top 25, you'd refuse to pay for college? Rich people can be awful and so self-righteous.


I’d send them to another state school. In fact, that’s what we did for one of our kids. And they were just fine with it. Down the road none of this matters. Stupid people and strivers spend money foolishly on second tier private colleges. We are neither.
Anonymous
I think that it's crazy to pay 400K for anything outside of the top 10 schools and it would be beneficial for everyone to think of college as more of a math problem now. We can afford to pay for our kids to go anywhere but 1 wants to get a Ph.D. eventually so they will look at schools where they have a chance to do research and where they get some merit aid and we can help pay for grad school.
2nd kid wants to be a nurse practitioner. I don't think it's worth 400K for an undergrad nursing degree, do you?

I recognize that there are circumstances where an individual kid needs to be in a specific environment but otherwise the price tag is just too high.
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