Is there a tipping point , full pay?

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Anonymous wrote:We’re full pay no matter what and in fact 3 of those schools are at the top of my juniors list. What I’m now questioning is if there’s any advantage to being full pay. I kind of thought it would give you a bump but now that I can see our school’s scattergrams, it doesn’t look like it. You still have to be pretty near perfect to get into BC and Villanova (and probably the others). Still need a 4.0+, right? Is there any advantage?

If may give you the edge -- with all other things being equal with another applicant. But your full pay kid still needs a weighted 4.0+ to get into BC and Villanova.


Villanova and BC are both need blind, so any full pay thumb on the scale wouldn't come into play unless there was a waitlist.

FYI, my 3.9UW/1480 kid was rejected ED1 from Villanova (and we are full pay.)

Sorry but 3.9/1480 was just not competitive enough at any price. You only might get a full pay edge if the application is in all other respects equal to another.


Lol, apparently not, but he's also a 4.4weighted, max rigor, top 5% of class, 550+ service hours, pilot's license and a bunch of other extracurriculars. Gold medals 3 years straight in French Grand Concours, I could go on. Oh, well. He has already been accepted EA at IU Kelley (Hutton Honors College + merit money) so Villanova's loss.

Why would you say he's a 3.9?
But I agree that you just move on from a rejection. There's plenty other schools and your kid will do great.


and thank you it stung at the time but in retrospect I'm glad it wasn't a deferral - it would have been very challenging for all of us to let it go and focus on other schools. I definitely understand why people who have been through this advise students to not have one "dream school." My kid has about 5 that he'll hear from in RD that he really likes, along with Indiana, so he's in good shape.


NP. Your DS sounds VERY impressive. My DS's best friend goes to Kelley and loves it. My DS visited him and said it's a great school--both the campus and atmosphere. I've been on these boards a long time and don't really hear/know about Villanova. More people talk about IU, especially Kelley direct admit.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.
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Anonymous wrote:We are on our third kid doing full pay at the college they chose. One kid was offered a fair bit of merit at Emory and still turned it down to do FP elsewhere, and it was worth it (but we had the luxury of making that choice, and Emory would have been fine if the money had been a dealbreaker)


Posts like this are so unhelpful. This is an anonymous form. Why can’t you just name the damn school?
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Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.
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Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.


I dont really trust the motivations of a 17 yo who thinks UMiami is the perfect fit.

I'd rather spend 400k having a 17 yo open a restaurant or fund a start up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


I'm just going to say it: none of those schools impress me. They're fine schools, but aside from accepting a lot of ivy cast-offs, I don't see the appeal.

I would full-pay for Williams, Pomona, Amherst. Possibly Wesleyan, Haverford, Vassar, etc. It may just be that I expect different things from an undergraduate education.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Isn’t emory higher ranked
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Isn’t emory higher ranked


Tied at 24
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Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.

My UMiami full pay kid did great, went on to a T7 MBA program and is well-employed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


We were full pay and actually kinda rich but we live in VA and there was no way in hell we’d full pay for any of those school after a UVA admit. It’s better than all of them. Decisions like that is how we stay rich.


Did you child actually get into UVA? Or if they are yet to go through applications, what if they get declined at UVA? What will you do then?
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Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.

My UMiami full pay kid did great, went on to a T7 MBA program and is well-employed.


Undergrad is really fairly irrelevant for getting an MBA. You are leaving out where your kid was employed after Miami and pre-MBA...that is more important and relevant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We told our kid that we're willing to pay for private (or out-of-state public) if it's better than our state flagship.

That's great assuming they get into your state flagship. Ask around and see what great colleges UVA-rejects got accepted to. And not everyone loves UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


I'm just going to say it: none of those schools impress me. They're fine schools, but aside from accepting a lot of ivy cast-offs, I don't see the appeal.

I would full-pay for Williams, Pomona, Amherst. Possibly Wesleyan, Haverford, Vassar, etc. It may just be that I expect different things from an undergraduate education.


You're entitled to your opinion but I'm not sure many would agree that Vassar and Haverford are substantially more impressive than Emory.
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Anonymous wrote:I'd pay it for any school if the kid loved it and it felt like a good fit for them.

+1 But I’d be a little bitter if it was UMiami.

My UMiami full pay kid did great, went on to a T7 MBA program and is well-employed.


Undergrad is really fairly irrelevant for getting an MBA. You are leaving out where your kid was employed after Miami and pre-MBA...that is more important and relevant.

They were well-enough employed directly from U Miami to get accepted to the MBA. That's the point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are full pay, Would you pay full price for
Emory
BC
UMiami
Villanova
GWU
….going down the rankings list, LMU?
Is there a cutoff for private colleges? Where you tell your kid to just take merit elsewhere, or go in state? What is your cutoff, or are you full pay so you will full pay anyplace ?

(If you are not full pay, and need FA, instate, or merit, please don’t respond, your considerations are different)


I'm just going to say it: none of those schools impress me. They're fine schools, but aside from accepting a lot of ivy cast-offs, I don't see the appeal.

I would full-pay for Williams, Pomona, Amherst. Possibly Wesleyan, Haverford, Vassar, etc. It may just be that I expect different things from an undergraduate education.


You're entitled to your opinion but I'm not sure many would agree that Vassar and Haverford are substantially more impressive than Emory.


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