s/o Do you think fruit is good for you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The article above mentions store bought smoothies which have added sugar. Very different from homemade where you just throw some fruit in a blender with some water or yogurt.

Also, the article notes:
“Some experts agree blending reduces fiber content, while others are skeptical.”
Emphasis in the original.

So, it is not a given that blending fruit changes the sugar content.

NOBODY said it changed the sugar content, poster. Nice attempt at goalposts moving lol.

Blending fruit changes the fiber structure - skeptics are idiots. Put your fingers in the blender for just 20 seconds - are they structurally the same afterward?

Again, anyone arguing this just doesn't understand basic biology, structure of cells, etc.

PP corrected that post above.

Your example shows that you don’t have a good understanding of how the intestines work.

BWAHAHAHAHA! okay

When it comes to nutrition science, the DCUM board is as stupid as any Facebook community page of knuckledraggers questioning covid protocols, vaccinations, etc.

Seriously, is it any wonder why so many threads on this board are about chronic illnesses, weight struggles and kids who are in constant meltdown?? You people are shoveling poisons into your body everyday and you are so smug that you know everything so the problem MUST be someone else's or something else's fault.

Whatever. Keep guzzling your smoothies and crying about your overweight spouses and out of control kids.

[Anonymous]

Fruit is good for everyone. Pople here are insane with their fad ocd diets.

[Anonymous]

I am not with you on smoothies, I dislike them fiercely. But, fresh fruit, I can eat it all day long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article above mentions store bought smoothies which have added sugar. Very different from homemade where you just throw some fruit in a blender with some water or yogurt.

Also, the article notes:
“Some experts agree blending reduces fiber content, while others are skeptical.”
Emphasis in the original.

So, it is not a given that blending fruit changes the sugar content.

NOBODY said it changed the sugar content, poster. Nice attempt at goalposts moving lol.

Blending fruit changes the fiber structure - skeptics are idiots. Put your fingers in the blender for just 20 seconds - are they structurally the same afterward?

Again, anyone arguing this just doesn't understand basic biology, structure of cells, etc.

PP corrected that post above.

Your example shows that you don’t have a good understanding of how the intestines work.

BWAHAHAHAHA! okay

When it comes to nutrition science, the DCUM board is as stupid as any Facebook community page of knuckledraggers questioning covid protocols, vaccinations, etc.

Seriously, is it any wonder why so many threads on this board are about chronic illnesses, weight struggles and kids who are in constant meltdown?? You people are shoveling poisons into your body everyday and you are so smug that you know everything so the problem MUST be someone else's or something else's fault.

Whatever. Keep guzzling your smoothies and crying about your overweight spouses and out of control kids.

Dear Dcum, here is what diet narcissist looks like. Yes, as stupid as she sounds, but so convinced of her superiority that she can't stop herself form insulting others for... not thinking like she does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article above mentions store bought smoothies which have added sugar. Very different from homemade where you just throw some fruit in a blender with some water or yogurt.

Also, the article notes:
“Some experts agree blending reduces fiber content, while others are skeptical.”
Emphasis in the original.

So, it is not a given that blending fruit changes the sugar content.

NOBODY said it changed the sugar content, poster. Nice attempt at goalposts moving lol.

Blending fruit changes the fiber structure - skeptics are idiots. Put your fingers in the blender for just 20 seconds - are they structurally the same afterward?

Again, anyone arguing this just doesn't understand basic biology, structure of cells, etc.

PP corrected that post above.

Your example shows that you don’t have a good understanding of how the intestines work.

BWAHAHAHAHA! okay

When it comes to nutrition science, the DCUM board is as stupid as any Facebook community page of knuckledraggers questioning covid protocols, vaccinations, etc.

Seriously, is it any wonder why so many threads on this board are about chronic illnesses, weight struggles and kids who are in constant meltdown?? You people are shoveling poisons into your body everyday and you are so smug that you know everything so the problem MUST be someone else's or something else's fault.

Whatever. Keep guzzling your smoothies and crying about your overweight spouses and out of control kids.

If the premise is so obvious to you because SCIENCE, surely you can find one scientific peer-reviewed article to back up your claim that there are different postprandial and nutritional effects of consuming whole vs blended fruit?

[Anonymous]

The stupidity of Atkins refused to die. There is nothing wrong with carbs. It's the source and quality of carbs that you want - fruit, vegetables, legumes, beans, etc -- all fantastic for you. Eat whole, and you'll be in good shape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The stupidity of Atkins refused to die. There is nothing wrong with carbs. It's the source and quality of carbs that you want - fruit, vegetables, legumes, beans, etc -- all fantastic for you. Eat whole, and you'll be in good shape.

Don't forget the keto craze too.

[Anonymous]

Funny to read all of you experts making your proclamations and contradicting each other and insulting each other and acting like only you know the real truth.

This is what you get if you crowd source on DCUM. No clear answer whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article above mentions store bought smoothies which have added sugar. Very different from homemade where you just throw some fruit in a blender with some water or yogurt.

Also, the article notes:
“Some experts agree blending reduces fiber content, while others are skeptical.”
Emphasis in the original.

So, it is not a given that blending fruit changes the sugar content.

NOBODY said it changed the sugar content, poster. Nice attempt at goalposts moving lol.

Blending fruit changes the fiber structure - skeptics are idiots. Put your fingers in the blender for just 20 seconds - are they structurally the same afterward?

Again, anyone arguing this just doesn't understand basic biology, structure of cells, etc.

PP corrected that post above.

Your example shows that you don’t have a good understanding of how the intestines work.

BWAHAHAHAHA! okay

When it comes to nutrition science, the DCUM board is as stupid as any Facebook community page of knuckledraggers questioning covid protocols, vaccinations, etc.

Seriously, is it any wonder why so many threads on this board are about chronic illnesses, weight struggles and kids who are in constant meltdown?? You people are shoveling poisons into your body everyday and you are so smug that you know everything so the problem MUST be someone else's or something else's fault.

Whatever. Keep guzzling your smoothies and crying about your overweight spouses and out of control kids.

If the premise is so obvious to you because SCIENCE, surely you can find one scientific peer-reviewed article to back up your claim that there are different postprandial and nutritional effects of consuming whole vs blended fruit?

https://europepmc.org/article/MED/71495

[Anonymous]

Have I been doing myself a disservice? I began to rethink my smoothie habit about a year ago, when I heard a segment on the Good Food podcast featuring Robert Lustig, a pediatric endocrinologist at the University of California-San Francisco, who argued that our bodies absorb blended-fruit sugars differently than sugars from whole fruit. Lustig is a high-profile proponent of the theory that excess sugar consumption drives high rates of obesity, type II diabetes, and other diet-related conditions. He was a major source for a 2012 Mother Jones exposé of the sugar industry’s lobbying might.

I recently called Lustig to hear more. To understand his smoothie skepticism, think of, say, an apple. In its whole form, it’s a tasty bundle of sugar, beneficial nutrients like vitamins and phytochemicals, and fiber, the plant matter that our bodies can’t metabolize but that drives proper digestion. Whole fruit contains two kinds of fiber: the soluble kind, which dissolves easily in water, and its insoluble counterpart, which doesn’t. According to Lustig, the two kinds of fiber work synergistically to “form a gel within the small intestine” that “acts as a barrier” slowing the rate at which your body absorbs nutrients.

And “that’s a good thing” when you eat an apple, he said, because it buffers the rate at which the apple’s sugar hits the liver. “That means you won’t overwhelm the liver’s capacity to digest the sugar, and the liver won’t turn the excess sugar into fat,” he explained.

However, when you puree that same apple into a smoothie, the mechanical force of a blender’s blades “sheers the insoluble fiber into tiny pieces” and functionally destroys it, he said. With the insoluble fiber gone, the soluble stuff can’t alone form the barrier that slows absorption, and the liver gets “pelted” by the sugar delivered by the blended apple. And just like when you drink soda, that sugary jolt can trigger an insulin response, and thus push your body in the direction of metabolic conditions, including unwanted weight gain, insulin resistance, or nonalcoholic fatty liver disease.

With the insoluble fiber gone, the liver gets “pelted” by the sugar delivered by the blended apple.
Now, unlike sodas, smoothies do contain valuable fruit-based nutrients and soluble fiber, which delivers important benefits even when separated from its insoluble counterpart. For example, Lustig said, bits of soluble fiber “act as scrubbies” to purge the colon of potentially cancerous cells. But in sugar terms, he said, smoothies behave in our bodies a lot like soda.

When I asked for more research on the topic, Lustig sent me to this 2009 paper by Penn State researchers. The study, it turns out, doesn’t directly bear on Lustig’s claim that pureeing fruit destroys insoluble fiber. But its results are interesting nonetheless. The researchers gave 58 adults a premeal snack consisting of 125 calories worth of either whole apple slices, applesauce, apple juice tweaked with soluble fiber, or regular apple juice. A control group got no snack at all. The subjects were then treated to an all-you-can-eat lunch, and the researchers recorded how rapidly they reported becoming full and how many total calories they consumed (data here).

People who snacked on whole apples ended up consuming, on average, 15 percent fewer calories than the control group; the people who ate applesauce—essentially, blended apples—ate just 6 percent fewer calories than the control; and the group who got fiber-fortified apple juice consumed 1 percent fewer calories than the nonsnackers. Drinkers of straight apple juice—essentially liquefied apples with insoluble fiber filtered out—actually took in 3 percent more total calories than the nonsnackers. In other words, whole apples essentially took the edge off hunger and inspired subjects to eat less, and juice, even when goosed with added fiber, didn’t have much effect at all.

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2016/03/are-smoothies-devil/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, fruit is good for you. Whole fruit is good for you. I'm not sure smoothies are as good, but I suppose it's better than eating processed food.

A smoothie is, by definition, a processed food. It can't be made without a process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, fruit is good for you. Whole fruit is good for you. I'm not sure smoothies are as good, but I suppose it's better than eating processed food.

A smoothie is, by definition, a processed food. It can't be made without a process.

I get that, but given a choice between Doritos and a smoothy, I'd let my kids eat smoothies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article above mentions store bought smoothies which have added sugar. Very different from homemade where you just throw some fruit in a blender with some water or yogurt.

Also, the article notes:
“Some experts agree blending reduces fiber content, while others are skeptical.”
Emphasis in the original.

So, it is not a given that blending fruit changes the sugar content.

NOBODY said it changed the sugar content, poster. Nice attempt at goalposts moving lol.

Blending fruit changes the fiber structure - skeptics are idiots. Put your fingers in the blender for just 20 seconds - are they structurally the same afterward?

Again, anyone arguing this just doesn't understand basic biology, structure of cells, etc.

PP corrected that post above.

Your example shows that you don’t have a good understanding of how the intestines work.

BWAHAHAHAHA! okay

When it comes to nutrition science, the DCUM board is as stupid as any Facebook community page of knuckledraggers questioning covid protocols, vaccinations, etc.

Seriously, is it any wonder why so many threads on this board are about chronic illnesses, weight struggles and kids who are in constant meltdown?? You people are shoveling poisons into your body everyday and you are so smug that you know everything so the problem MUST be someone else's or something else's fault.

Whatever. Keep guzzling your smoothies and crying about your overweight spouses and out of control kids.

If the premise is so obvious to you because SCIENCE, surely you can find one scientific peer-reviewed article to back up your claim that there are different postprandial and nutritional effects of consuming whole vs blended fruit?

https://europepmc.org/article/MED/71495

Only 10 subjects and there was not a lot of difference between a whole apple and a disrupted apple. The big difference was with juice, which is not what people are talking about here.

Is this the strongest research you could find?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People with eating disorders will find a problem with everything.

Fruit has too much sugar
Blending fruit removes chewing which burns calories
Etc

If 1 kid are a whole bag of clementines (which is what the other pilots asserted) I’d assume my kids were to lazy to make more filling food.

What more filling food are you thinking of? Fiber is the most filling of all foods, clementines are full of fiber and NO, fruit does not have too much sugar!

Your ideas about nutrition are painfully wrong. I don't know where you got them, but you really owe it to yourself and any kids you are feeding to get better educated in nutritional science. You might start with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine podcast The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll.

Pot meet crazy person with eating disorder who is angry I said blending fruit is not as good as real fruit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People with eating disorders will find a problem with everything.

Fruit has too much sugar
Blending fruit removes chewing which burns calories
Etc

If 1 kid are a whole bag of clementines (which is what the other pilots asserted) I’d assume my kids were to lazy to make more filling food.

What more filling food are you thinking of? Fiber is the most filling of all foods, clementines are full of fiber and NO, fruit does not have too much sugar!

Your ideas about nutrition are painfully wrong. I don't know where you got them, but you really owe it to yourself and any kids you are feeding to get better educated in nutritional science. You might start with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine podcast The Exam Room with Chuck Carroll.

Pot meet crazy person with eating disorder who is angry I said blending fruit is not as good as real fruit.

You must be confused, because I 100% agree with you that blending fruit is not as good as whole (real) fruit.