Do you fly the 737 Max?

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

I’m watching the passenger videos. I would’ve had a heart attack.

I always choose a window. Or I let my kids sit there if traveling with them.

I truly do not think I could ever fly again if that were my row. Can you IMAGINE if your kid was in that window seat?!

They don’t let kids sit in emergency exit rows, so you need not worry.

It wasn’t an exit row.

It was a door plug, where an exit row can be inserted if the configuration requires it.

BUT it was not an exit row where children are NOT allow to sit.

By strange coincidence, reports say that 2 passengers meant to sit at the window and middle missed their flight.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

I’m watching the passenger videos. I would’ve had a heart attack.

I always choose a window. Or I let my kids sit there if traveling with them.

I truly do not think I could ever fly again if that were my row. Can you IMAGINE if your kid was in that window seat?!

They don’t let kids sit in emergency exit rows, so you need not worry.

It wasn’t an exit row.

It was a door plug, where an exit row can be inserted if the configuration requires it.

The MAX is apparently not the only model that has these door plugs.

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

You should read up on risk perceptions. They are far more complex than your simplistic advice suggests.

Yes, perceptions are more complex. I am quoting the actual statistics (well, paraphrasing, admittedly).

The idea that avoiding a certain commercial plane type in the US, where there has been ONE death from an accident in FIFTEEN years, will substantively.reducd your risk, is frankly hilarious.

It is probably best that you don’t work in that field.

Because you think that humans, and the way their minds work, are laughable.

Hate to break it to you, but you are equally fallible…just in some other way.

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Anonymous wrote:I fly 25-30 times a year and never have been on a max. It’s not hard to avoid unless you fly Alaska or aa. Idk why Boeing keeps pushing it. Ironically Alaska just bought more of them. I bet they wish they hadn’t!

United and Southwest have lots of Max planes.

i never fly southwest and united very seldom but have not found the max on the routes i fly.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

I’m watching the passenger videos. I would’ve had a heart attack.

I always choose a window. Or I let my kids sit there if traveling with them.

I truly do not think I could ever fly again if that were my row. Can you IMAGINE if your kid was in that window seat?!

They don’t let kids sit in emergency exit rows, so you need not worry.

It wasn’t an exit row.

It was a door plug, where an exit row can be inserted if the configuration requires it.

BUT it was not an exit row where children are NOT allow to sit.

By strange coincidence, reports say that 2 passengers meant to sit at the window and middle missed their flight.

It was designed for an exit door there, but since fewer exits were required because of the seating arrangement, they put in the plug instead.

[Anonymous]

I remember United 811 that lost a cargo door over the Pacific in 1989. Nine passengers were sucked out of the plane and killed.

[Anonymous]

I just rebooked a southwest flight that was a 737 max. No thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember United 811 that lost a cargo door over the Pacific in 1989. Nine passengers were sucked out of the plane and killed.

Only one person died on this one in Hawaii in 1988, which is crazy when you see the picture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

That was an original 737 so I am sure everyone here will be avoiding those also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surely they have fixed the problems by now.

The OP is sounding like a genius given recent events.

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Your spouse works for a Boeing division and you don’t fly MAXs? Not challenging you but is that common there?

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Your spouse works for a Boeing division and you don’t fly MAXs? Not challenging you but is that common there?

Not PP, but Global Services is United's designation for the highest level of ELITE flyers. So elite they don't actually publicly publish anything about it.

https://onemileatatime.com/guides/united-airlines-global-services/

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Supposedly this guy was supposed to be sitting in that row but missed his flight.

https://x.com/snipedsox/status/1743723372599529854?s=46&t=X605tXq86EtH5m7JHoGWFQ

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

You should read up on risk perceptions. They are far more complex than your simplistic advice suggests.

Yes, perceptions are more complex. I am quoting the actual statistics (well, paraphrasing, admittedly).

The idea that avoiding a certain commercial plane type in the US, where there has been ONE death from an accident in FIFTEEN years, will substantively.reducd your risk, is frankly hilarious.

The 737 MAX 8 entered service in May 2017, the MAX 9 entered service in March 2018,

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

It's a convertible window/door panel section. Obvious weak point. Avoid that row in flights.

Though ironically, safety experts often want to sit there, to be closer to the exit if evacuation is required.
Sounds like an engineering or maintenance issue. I am unclear though why they only grounded one airline’s max’s.

It wasn't a real exit though, just a panel that could be converted to a door on some models.

In this case it was a real exit, unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

You should read up on risk perceptions. They are far more complex than your simplistic advice suggests.

Yes, perceptions are more complex. I am quoting the actual statistics (well, paraphrasing, admittedly).

The idea that avoiding a certain commercial plane type in the US, where there has been ONE death from an accident in FIFTEEN years, will substantively.reducd your risk, is frankly hilarious.

The 737 MAX 8 entered service in May 2017, the MAX 9 entered service in March 2018,

And how many deaths have there been on one of them in the US? Zero