Will America vote for Kamala Harris in 2024? This is the real question.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

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Found the bigots.

Found the dolt who insists POC are somehow protected from criticism due to their race. Even when they are idiots. Your schtick is beyond old.
DP

What has she done that makes you legitimately question her intelligence that's so different than other politicians?

DP. I present to you, our vice president:

“We were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time, so when you think about it there is great significance to passage of time,” she intoned. “There is such great significance to the passage of time.” -Kamala

“We will assist Jamaica in Covid recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica.” - Kamala

“Space is exciting. Space, it affects us all, and it connects us all.” - Kamala to actual astronauts

“When we talk about the children of the community, they are a children of the community.” -Kamala

“We will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements that we will convene to work together on, to galvanize global action, and I know we will work on this together,” - Kamala

“I think that there can be no higher priority than what we have been clear is our highest priority.” - kamala

“We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have to take it seriously.” -kamala

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Harris has a good credentials on paper but unfortunately the reality doesn’t match the resume. She is underwhelming. She finally got out of the 2020 presidential race because advisors told her she would get so clobbered in the California primary that she would make herself very vulnerable to a Democratic challenger if she decided to seek re-election to the Senate. While better on policy than most republicans, Harris likely could not win the presidential election against Trump or any other candidate.

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If you take any snippets out of context of a larger discussion, it will sound and hinged and crazy


Still trying to figure out what this means covefee

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Anonymous wrote:If you take any snippets out of context of a larger discussion, it will sound and hinged and crazy


Still trying to figure out what this means covefee

Sure pp. feel free to add any necessary context you would like 🤡

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Anonymous wrote:I'd vote for potato if it promises to never take away my healthcare rights

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Hands off my Obamacare!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

+1000

Found the bigots.

Found the dolt who insists POC are somehow protected from criticism due to their race. Even when they are idiots. Your schtick is beyond old.
DP

What has she done that makes you legitimately question her intelligence that's so different than other politicians?

DP. I present to you, our vice president:

“We were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time, so when you think about it there is great significance to passage of time,” she intoned. “There is such great significance to the passage of time.” -Kamala

“We will assist Jamaica in Covid recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica.” - Kamala

“Space is exciting. Space, it affects us all, and it connects us all.” - Kamala to actual astronauts

“When we talk about the children of the community, they are a children of the community.” -Kamala

“We will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements that we will convene to work together on, to galvanize global action, and I know we will work on this together,” - Kamala

“I think that there can be no higher priority than what we have been clear is our highest priority.” - kamala

“We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have to take it seriously.” -kamala

So some verbal flubs make her incompetent at her job? Every politician does this. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

I’m a nonwhite woman. I think both are true - a woman can win, but not a woman AND a minority. One or the other. And I honestly don’t care. I am fine with this being the state of the world for now, progress is incremental.

I also agree that Harris is a quintessential diversity hire who is not a substantively good candidate and has been a huge disappointment. I don’t want her to be president.

Diversity hire? Harris has been an ELECTED official - in a state with a 6% black population. And she'll be a two-term VP. And...maybe president one day.

You can start gnashing your teeth now.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. Yes, a diversity hire. Biden very nakedly chose her as his VP to pander to the identity politics faction of the Democratic Party. I have no doubt that she’s an ambitious and intelligent person, and yes, she was an elected official. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t a diversity hire for her current role. And she has not proven herself to be a great fit for the job either. She comes off as an empty suit. I voted for HRC in 2016, and in my view there is a stark difference between the two of them in competency, presence, and who I would want picking up the phone at 3 AM, to quote an old HRC ad.

I’m a Democrat. I’ll reluctantly vote for the Biden/Harris ticket over Trump or any of the insane Republicans who are running in 2024, but truthfully I am not confident that Biden will live through 2028 and I really do not want Harris to be president. She’s fine as a senator or ambassador or even a cabinet head, but I don’t feel great about having her in charge.

What has she actually done in her role as VP that makes you question her competence?

Just because someone is an underrepresented minority, and that is viewed as a plus by some, does not mean the person is not qualified or competent. Those of you continuously saying that she's an idiot or lacks competence or was merely a diversity hire, please tell us, in what ways is she actually unqualified for the job? Or are you maybe just a bigot who can't possibly see a Black woman as competent?

I'm the PP you're responding to. I'm the child of Indian immigrants, so I also consider Harris to be an Indian woman as equally as she is a Black woman, and from an identity politics perspective I would have been happy to see her succeed. Of course I agree that one can be "diverse" and also good at their job - I just do not think Harris is one of those people. And I reject your implication that criticizing her makes me "a bigot who can't possibly see a Black woman as competent" and I think this tired argument epitomizes the Democratic party's general problems with DEI and their constant racial pandering. If you think it's racist, it's your problem to live with. I'm not changing my opinion because of you, and there are many others like me who think similarly and also vote.

She's qualified on paper. Yes, I recognize that she was a prosecutor and that she held national office. I don't think she's a bad politician. She is certainly much smarter and more articulate than Trump, but "better than Trump" is not the bar I use for determining whether someone is actually a good candidate for president. She does not seem to have achieved any substantive policy accomplishments. Biden very publicly handed her the border/Central America to "own" as VP, and while that may have been an unfair assignment, in my view she has done absolutely nothing to help or even steer the conversation in the right direction. This is a critical issue, both optically for the Democrats and substantively for our country. She's done nothing else of substance that I can point to as She's also a bad communicator. She's especially bad at dealing with tough questions and criticism. Her interviews are borderline embarrassing. Biden isn't great, either, but again - I'm looking at her on her own merits. I wouldn't be happy to have her negotiating with Putin or Xi or really anyone on behalf of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

I’m a nonwhite woman. I think both are true - a woman can win, but not a woman AND a minority. One or the other. And I honestly don’t care. I am fine with this being the state of the world for now, progress is incremental.

I also agree that Harris is a quintessential diversity hire who is not a substantively good candidate and has been a huge disappointment. I don’t want her to be president.

Diversity hire? Harris has been an ELECTED official - in a state with a 6% black population. And she'll be a two-term VP. And...maybe president one day.

You can start gnashing your teeth now.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. Yes, a diversity hire. Biden very nakedly chose her as his VP to pander to the identity politics faction of the Democratic Party. I have no doubt that she’s an ambitious and intelligent person, and yes, she was an elected official. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t a diversity hire for her current role. And she has not proven herself to be a great fit for the job either. She comes off as an empty suit. I voted for HRC in 2016, and in my view there is a stark difference between the two of them in competency, presence, and who I would want picking up the phone at 3 AM, to quote an old HRC ad.

I’m a Democrat. I’ll reluctantly vote for the Biden/Harris ticket over Trump or any of the insane Republicans who are running in 2024, but truthfully I am not confident that Biden will live through 2028 and I really do not want Harris to be president. She’s fine as a senator or ambassador or even a cabinet head, but I don’t feel great about having her in charge.

What has she actually done in her role as VP that makes you question her competence?

Just because someone is an underrepresented minority, and that is viewed as a plus by some, does not mean the person is not qualified or competent. Those of you continuously saying that she's an idiot or lacks competence or was merely a diversity hire, please tell us, in what ways is she actually unqualified for the job? Or are you maybe just a bigot who can't possibly see a Black woman as competent?

I'm the PP you're responding to. I'm the child of Indian immigrants, so I also consider Harris to be an Indian woman as equally as she is a Black woman, and from an identity politics perspective I would have been happy to see her succeed. Of course I agree that one can be "diverse" and also good at their job - I just do not think Harris is one of those people. And I reject your implication that criticizing her makes me "a bigot who can't possibly see a Black woman as competent" and I think this tired argument epitomizes the Democratic party's general problems with DEI and their constant racial pandering. If you think it's racist, it's your problem to live with. I'm not changing my opinion because of you, and there are many others like me who think similarly and also vote.

She's qualified on paper. Yes, I recognize that she was a prosecutor and that she held national office. I don't think she's a bad politician. She is certainly much smarter and more articulate than Trump, but "better than Trump" is not the bar I use for determining whether someone is actually a good candidate for president. She does not seem to have achieved any substantive policy accomplishments. Biden very publicly handed her the border/Central America to "own" as VP, and while that may have been an unfair assignment, in my view she has done absolutely nothing to help or even steer the conversation in the right direction. This is a critical issue, both optically for the Democrats and substantively for our country. She's done nothing else of substance that I can point to as She's also a bad communicator. She's especially bad at dealing with tough questions and criticism. Her interviews are borderline embarrassing. Biden isn't great, either, but again - I'm looking at her on her own merits. I wouldn't be happy to have her negotiating with Putin or Xi or really anyone on behalf of the country.

DEI and "woke" speak is irrelevant and are nothing but Fox News, Christopher Rufo talking points.

You'll get a chance to pick your fave in 2028.

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She's useless.

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Let's ask Willie Brown!

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, majority will elect VP Harris in 2024- on the Biden/ Harris 2024 ticket. Biden isn't going anywhere.

Right wing media bashing aside (anything Fox, WSJ, NY Post, etc.), Harris would be better than ANY Republican.

OMG. I actually laughed out loud. It's a shame you're not aware of how the VAST majority of Democrats feel. No one wants Biden, much less Harris.
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Are you a Democrat voting for Trump in 2024?

NP - Are you a D purist, who cannot accept anything that goes against your own opinion of the situation? People outside, and more important to this thread, inside the D party, have concerns about Harris.

Your response is code for don’t step out of line otherwise you will be cast out of the village and left to rot.

I think the purists are the Dems who refuse to vote for any candidate that doesn’t align EXACTLY with their preferences. That’s how we got Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's ask Willie Brown!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

+1000

Found the bigots.

Found the dolt who insists POC are somehow protected from criticism due to their race. Even when they are idiots. Your schtick is beyond old.
DP

You offered no serious criticism. You just said she’s an idiot, when she is more intelligent and more accomplished and more qualified than any of the Republican Presidential candidates who offer nothing but idiotic nonsense, ridiculous lies, and imaginary culture war grievances. With all of your delusional clowns in the House, Senate, and Red State Governors, Republicans can’t call anyone an idiot, yet it is the only thing you ever say about Black women, no matter how accomplished they are.

You can't be serious. Either you go through life with blinders and earplugs on or you are just seriously not very bright. Here are some of the greatest hits from the woman you call "more intelligent, accomplished, and qualified" blah blah blah. Nikki Haley would like a word.

“So, Ukraine is a country in Europe.”

“It exists next to another country called Russia,” she continued. “Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for.”
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“You know, every election cycle we talk about this is the most election of our lifetime,” Harris said, without correcting herself.

“Lawrence, this one is, this one is,” she told the host.

“We are literally talking about people who are attempting to divide our country in the most crude, frankly, and profound way,” she said. “We are talking about those who are intent and purposeful to, to attack fundamental freedoms.”

She continued: “The freedom to be free from fear of violence and hate … the freedom to just … be. The freedom to just be.”
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“I have been fortunate and blessed during the course of being vice president to have many situations where it becomes too clear me that there are people … of every age and gender, by the way, who see something about being the first that lets them know they don’t need to be, um, limited by other people’s limited, um, understanding of who can do what,” she rambled.
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She said, "We invested an additional $12 billion into community banks, because we know community banks are in the community, and understand the needs and desires of that community as well as the talent and capacity of community."
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Harris stated, "We also recognize just as it has been in the United States, for Jamaica, one of the issues that has been presented as an issue that is economic in the way of its impact has been the pandemic."

"So to that end, we are announcing today also that we will assist Jamaica in COVID recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica that have been essential to, I believe, what is necessary to strengthen not only the issue of public health but also the economy."
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"It’s time for us to do what we have been doing, and that time is every day."
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"Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down. And so right now we know we still have a number of people that, that is in the millions of Americans who have not been vaccinated, and could be vaccinated, and we are urging them to get vaccinated because it will save their life," Harris said.
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"I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled."
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"We've got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to take this seriously."

You took the time to copy/paste. Nice.

She sounds much better than Trump. DCUM might shut down if you listed the stuff from him.

Aww. Someone's triggered that this thread is about dopey Kamala Harris, and not their favorite obsession. So sad!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

+1000

Found the bigots.

Found the dolt who insists POC are somehow protected from criticism due to their race. Even when they are idiots. Your schtick is beyond old.
DP

What has she done that makes you legitimately question her intelligence that's so different than other politicians?

OMG. Can you not read? Examples have been posted already. And her absolute incompetence as "Border Czar" should be reason enough to take a big pass on her - even without the MANY examples of her nonsensical word salads.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

+1000

Found the bigots.

Found the dolt who insists POC are somehow protected from criticism due to their race. Even when they are idiots. Your schtick is beyond old.
DP

What has she done that makes you legitimately question her intelligence that's so different than other politicians?

DP. I present to you, our vice president:

“We were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time, so when you think about it there is great significance to passage of time,” she intoned. “There is such great significance to the passage of time.” -Kamala

“We will assist Jamaica in Covid recovery by assisting in terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica.” - Kamala

“Space is exciting. Space, it affects us all, and it connects us all.” - Kamala to actual astronauts

“When we talk about the children of the community, they are a children of the community.” -Kamala

“We will work together and continue to work together to address these issues, to tackle these challenges, and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements that we will convene to work together on, to galvanize global action, and I know we will work on this together,” - Kamala

“I think that there can be no higher priority than what we have been clear is our highest priority.” - kamala

“We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have to take it seriously.” -kamala

So some verbal flubs make her incompetent at her job? Every politician does this. Try again.

No doubt you were a huge participant in the "verbal flubs" threads dealing with any Republican, amirite? You really need to come to grips with the fact that KH is a moron.
DP