2 people just "uninvited" from our flight

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.

I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.

I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.

Of course it happens. They will bump someone if someone has higher status or an employee.

That is absolutely not correct 99.9% of the time. Does it happen infrequently? Of course. But straight up taking a revenue passenger off a flight for a higher status passenger or an NRSA employee? Will get punished for sure for violating clear policy.

The only situation in which you would get truly "bumped" because of low status would be if a flight was oversold and no volunteers were found. IDBs are much less common nowadays because the airlines have significantly increased their offer prices for volunteers, post-David Dao.

They are overbooking each flight hoping people will cancel or not get on the flight so it's regularly an issue now.

Last year there were 3 IDBs per 100k passengers in the US.

https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/air-travel-consumer-report-december-2022-full-year-2022-numbers#:~:text=For%20the%20fourth%20quarter%20of,the%20fourth%20quarter%20of%202019.

If an average flight has 150 passengers, that's one involuntary denied boarding per 667 flights.

I would classify that as rare enough for me not to be substantively concerned about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.

I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.

I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.

Of course it happens. They will bump someone if someone has higher status or an employee.

That is absolutely not correct 99.9% of the time. Does it happen infrequently? Of course. But straight up taking a revenue passenger off a flight for a higher status passenger or an NRSA employee? Will get punished for sure for violating clear policy.

The only situation in which you would get truly "bumped" because of low status would be if a flight was oversold and no volunteers were found. IDBs are much less common nowadays because the airlines have significantly increased their offer prices for volunteers, post-David Dao.

They are overbooking each flight hoping people will cancel or not get on the flight so it's regularly an issue now.

Last year there were 3 IDBs per 100k passengers in the US.

https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/air-travel-consumer-report-december-2022-full-year-2022-numbers#:~:text=For%20the%20fourth%20quarter%20of,the%20fourth%20quarter%20of%202019.

If an average flight has 150 passengers, that's one involuntary denied boarding per 667 flights.

I would classify that as rare enough for me not to be substantively concerned about it.

Argh per 222 flights, sorry. Still not concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.

It should all be free. It used to be.

It isn’t because the IRS said in a PLR about 12 years ago that those baggage fees etc aren’t subject to ticket taxes. So that’s why we get nickel and dimed on things like this. Blame congress for writing bad tax laws.

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Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.

Great idea! I’d probably pay to bring it with me but I’m sure many would not.

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I have had multiple issues where we paid for a child in the car seat in a seat. Every time multiple people have asked to see their ticket in a very nasty way, told us we had to move to other seats etc.. I think they think they can get a seat free by moving the child to your lap even when they are a paid passenger. The worst for this was United who seem to have a policy of harassing people with kids in car seats on the plane

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Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.

It should all be free. It used to be.

There are plenty of tickets which includes checked bags in the fare. You are being offered a product for purchase at a price. Not sure why you get angry about the price being offered. The largest domestic airline doesn't charge for checked bags, you have alternatives.

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Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.

Yes! This is a total non-brainer!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.

It should all be free. It used to be.

It isn’t because the IRS said in a PLR about 12 years ago that those baggage fees etc aren’t subject to ticket taxes. So that’s why we get nickel and dimed on things like this. Blame congress for writing bad tax laws.

The tax benefit was probably an early benefit, but there are checked bag fees and ancillary fees all over the world. It's because it allows the airlines to price discriminate and reach a broader part of the demand curve.

Also because people are bad (on average) at considering things like added fees when making purchase decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:We had this issue a few years ago when the airline was full and the FA demanded my daughter check her violin. It’s a 10,000 dollar instrument and we were NOT going to check it. She was heading to a major performance. So we walked off the flight. The airline reimbursed us and provided miles as an apology.

It’s not always drugs.

Does a violin case even meet the size limits for carry on?

Yes. There is tons of guidance on carryon for instruments.

I’ve seen people carry on guitars and find it so rude. The guitar takes up the entire overhead bin space.

The flight attendants usually take guitars and put them up front. DC has never put it in the overhead bin the 4-5x he's flown with it.

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Anonymous wrote:We had this issue a few years ago when the airline was full and the FA demanded my daughter check her violin. It’s a 10,000 dollar instrument and we were NOT going to check it. She was heading to a major performance. So we walked off the flight. The airline reimbursed us and provided miles as an apology.

It’s not always drugs.

Does a violin case even meet the size limits for carry on?

Yes. There is tons of guidance on carryon for instruments.

I’ve seen people carry on guitars and find it so rude. The guitar takes up the entire overhead bin space.

The flight attendants usually take guitars and put them up front. DC has never put it in the overhead bin the 4-5x he's flown with it.

How is it rude? They are expensive and even with a hard case, it may not protect it.

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I was on a flight and my seat-mate was uninvited because he vaped in the bathroom!

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Anonymous wrote:I have had multiple issues where we paid for a child in the car seat in a seat. Every time multiple people have asked to see their ticket in a very nasty way, told us we had to move to other seats etc.. I think they think they can get a seat free by moving the child to your lap even when they are a paid passenger. The worst for this was United who seem to have a policy of harassing people with kids in car seats on the plane

Exactly. Or, even with a slightly older kid. The worst is when they will not let parents/kids sit together. I had a mom give me her kid once as she figured I was her best bet as I had my own. I wasn't willing to be separated from my kid so I took hers. People are lucky if these things don't happen to them. Sometimes travel is not a luxury or option if you have a family emergency, death, or medical appointment. They should but fun or business travel first.

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I honestly think travel is a nightmare.

Planes, cars, everything. TOO MANY PEOPLE everywhere!

We went to Jackson in August and I think the animals were scared there were so many people hiking! It was truly macabre. Took the actual fun of hiking away as it was like being in a frigging outside mall. I can't imagine Zion - who wants to go see all these beautiful places when it's just people you see instead?

We always went away for the long duration of winter break esp some place warm but the past couple years, I've realized that the 2 weeks off school are great to catch up on appts, sleep, helping my kids with any school stuff they wanted to get a head start on or have trouble with, just some time back on the calendar without activities. I take it off work and we truly enjoy the time off without going anywhere.

I always schedule a few fun things whether going to Kennedy Center or Escape Rooms for us as well. A lot of friends are in town throughout the period so it's not like we are all alone. I am prob going to make it a tradition to stay home for winter now because it's too expensive and crowded to trave this time of year.

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I really like the idea of charging for carryons and not for checked luggage. I'll definitely pay for a carryon and will be more likely to have it not kicked into checked luggage.

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Anonymous wrote:I really like the idea of charging for carryons and not for checked luggage. I'll definitely pay for a carryon and will be more likely to have it not kicked into checked luggage.

International carriers are now starting to charge people for checking in luggage while carry on remains free. I can get enough clothes for a two week trip in a carry on. Keep your dirty greedy taxing paws off my carry on.