Regular classes vs AAP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.
What are some of the things parents of regular Ed (non AAP) kids doing to motivate their kids to do better and better each grade? Does FCPS post the curriculum or study material for AAP that Regular ED kids can use for self-study?

It’s ELEMENTARY school. Jesus. Instill good habits and master the material. This will give them confidence going into MS. My Gen Ed miscreant is thriving in AP Hs classes.

And then YOU chill tf out.

[Anonymous]

All the AAP hate absolutely tells me it’s the right answer for my AAP kid.

Imagine trying to claim FCPS is pumping millions and millions of dollars and logistics challenges, and overhead into an advanced learning infrastructure that is really just some extra math….

Love this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are AAP kids who turned snooty and outright stated that they were smarter than the GenEd kids. They picked on the GenEd students at lunch, in hallways, making them brunt of jokes and put downs. Meanwhile, we see tremendous compassion and patience extended from the GenEd students who learn to cheer on dyslexics, ESOL, and SpEd. While the AAP kids picked up on the ‘walk all over’ attitude of their parents, the GenEd students shined with a resiliency and caring attitude. This built the GenEd up in the formative years and took them to the Ivies.

I'm sure there are jerk kids in AAP, just as I'm sure there are jerk kids in Gen Ed who pick on the AAP kids. There are kind, compassionate kids in gen ed, just as there are in AAP. There are 2E kids in AAP as well as Gen Ed. It's really going to be kid/school dependent.

It’s not just the kids. It’s the parents. I had one straight up tell me, thinking my kid was in AAP, that those kids were better and it was best they keep separated from Gen Ed kids.

This sort of opinion permeates AAP, parents and kids. And it is with great -though silent- pleasure that I now see my Gen Ed kid lappping lots of those AAP kids.

Not all AAP parents. I love my local
Level IV bc the parents are mostly chill. But I heard our center has some of those behaviors. I’ve said it before as an AAP parent in this forum that AAP is not a GT program. But honestly-you sound just as insecure as the AAP parents who are complaining about PP. How about we focus on our own kids and stop making comparisons to make ourselves feel better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are AAP kids who turned snooty and outright stated that they were smarter than the GenEd kids. They picked on the GenEd students at lunch, in hallways, making them brunt of jokes and put downs. Meanwhile, we see tremendous compassion and patience extended from the GenEd students who learn to cheer on dyslexics, ESOL, and SpEd. While the AAP kids picked up on the ‘walk all over’ attitude of their parents, the GenEd students shined with a resiliency and caring attitude. This built the GenEd up in the formative years and took them to the Ivies.

I'm sure there are jerk kids in AAP, just as I'm sure there are jerk kids in Gen Ed who pick on the AAP kids. There are kind, compassionate kids in gen ed, just as there are in AAP. There are 2E kids in AAP as well as Gen Ed. It's really going to be kid/school dependent.

It’s not just the kids. It’s the parents. I had one straight up tell me, thinking my kid was in AAP, that those kids were better and it was best they keep separated from Gen Ed kids.

This sort of opinion permeates AAP, parents and kids. And it is with great -though silent- pleasure that I now see my Gen Ed kid lappping lots of those AAP kids.

Not all AAP parents. I love my local
Level IV bc the parents are mostly chill. But I heard our center has some of those behaviors. I’ve said it before as an AAP parent in this forum that AAP is not a GT program. But honestly-you sound just as insecure as the AAP parents who are complaining about PP. How about we focus on our own kids and stop making comparisons to make ourselves feel better?

LOL. I have zero to be insecure about. My kid is doing fantastic and didn't need AAP to do it. Howeve,r I have dealt with AAP kids and parents for the last 10 years, thinking they're special. Demanding separate field trips, separate promotion ceremonies . . . So, yeah, this is not a "both sides" type of thing. But whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the AAP hate absolutely tells me it’s the right answer for my AAP kid.

Imagine trying to claim FCPS is pumping millions and millions of dollars and logistics challenges, and overhead into an advanced learning infrastructure that is really just some extra math….

Love this forum.

DP. FCPS doesn't spend millions on AAP but I agree that the hostility towards academically gifted kids makes AAP the right place for some kids to escape to, including mine.

[Anonymous]

AAP reads novels in 3rd at center school, the gen ed kids at base school do not.

AAP kids have advanced math before 6th grade at center, no advanced math until 6th at base.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only four kids from our high school who got into Ivies last year were never in elementary and middle school AAP. It’s all just a big ruse.

+1
Similar outcomes at our high school too. Graduation is always enlightening as we see all of these grossly underestimated kids being accepted to excellent colleges. AAP is really just a bunch of nonsense. They could easily make it the regular curriculum for the vast majority of students, while bringing in supports for those who need more help.

In my experience very few people in AAP think this is somehow their kids' ticket to the Ivies. They just want the curriculum that, as you state, could easily be the regular curriculum for the vast majority of students. I really don't care much about what college my elementary school kid gets into at this point. I just don't want her bored out of her mind in math, which she was before AAP.

Which is exactly why there should be flexible groupings for each core subject so that students can move up or down depending on their abilities. Kids don’t need to be sequestered into separate classrooms and labeled “AAP” or “GenEd,” especially as most kids are advanced in some subjects but not in others. Each teacher could be assigned a “group” and kids would simply cycle through the various classrooms depending on which group they are in for that particular subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are AAP kids who turned snooty and outright stated that they were smarter than the GenEd kids. They picked on the GenEd students at lunch, in hallways, making them brunt of jokes and put downs. Meanwhile, we see tremendous compassion and patience extended from the GenEd students who learn to cheer on dyslexics, ESOL, and SpEd. While the AAP kids picked up on the ‘walk all over’ attitude of their parents, the GenEd students shined with a resiliency and caring attitude. This built the GenEd up in the formative years and took them to the Ivies.

I'm sure there are jerk kids in AAP, just as I'm sure there are jerk kids in Gen Ed who pick on the AAP kids. There are kind, compassionate kids in gen ed, just as there are in AAP. There are 2E kids in AAP as well as Gen Ed. It's really going to be kid/school dependent.

It’s not just the kids. It’s the parents. I had one straight up tell me, thinking my kid was in AAP, that those kids were better and it was best they keep separated from Gen Ed kids.

This sort of opinion permeates AAP, parents and kids. And it is with great -though silent- pleasure that I now see my Gen Ed kid lappping lots of those AAP kids.

+100
It’s unfortunate that FCPS has created this utterly stupid division of kids, but this is the natural consequence of those actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the AAP hate absolutely tells me it’s the right answer for my AAP kid.

Imagine trying to claim FCPS is pumping millions and millions of dollars and logistics challenges, and overhead into an advanced learning infrastructure that is really just some extra math….

Love this forum.

If it’s really just “some extra math,” which I agree it is, then there is no need to sort 3rd graders into two huge separate groups. Again, flexible grouping is the answer, not segregation by entire classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the AAP hate absolutely tells me it’s the right answer for my AAP kid.

Imagine trying to claim FCPS is pumping millions and millions of dollars and logistics challenges, and overhead into an advanced learning infrastructure that is really just some extra math….

Love this forum.

If it’s really just “some extra math,” which I agree it is, then there is no need to sort 3rd graders into two huge separate groups. Again, flexible grouping is the answer, not segregation by entire classrooms.

By 5th and 6th grade, the core classes were combined, with science and math projects aligning, with a project being both LA and SS. Etc. Your flexible grouping doesn't work the way you want it to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.
What are some of the things parents of regular Ed (non AAP) kids doing to motivate their kids to do better and better each grade? Does FCPS post the curriculum or study material for AAP that Regular ED kids can use for self-study?

FCPS posts the curriculum, yes. For third grade it's here. AAP kids get taught the "Extended Standards" listed under each subject and advanced math (other kids who are not in level IV can also access advanced math at many schools).

Practically it's not that different, except for math. There's Caesar's English at some AAP centers and the projects often have a little less scaffolding (help from the teacher).

Caesar’s English was part of my gen ed kid’s curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the AAP hate absolutely tells me it’s the right answer for my AAP kid.

Imagine trying to claim FCPS is pumping millions and millions of dollars and logistics challenges, and overhead into an advanced learning infrastructure that is really just some extra math….

Love this forum.

If it’s really just “some extra math,” which I agree it is, then there is no need to sort 3rd graders into two huge separate groups. Again, flexible grouping is the answer, not segregation by entire classrooms.

Centers are really great. I prefer that. It’s great that we have options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are AAP kids who turned snooty and outright stated that they were smarter than the GenEd kids. They picked on the GenEd students at lunch, in hallways, making them brunt of jokes and put downs. Meanwhile, we see tremendous compassion and patience extended from the GenEd students who learn to cheer on dyslexics, ESOL, and SpEd. While the AAP kids picked up on the ‘walk all over’ attitude of their parents, the GenEd students shined with a resiliency and caring attitude. This built the GenEd up in the formative years and took them to the Ivies.

I'm sure there are jerk kids in AAP, just as I'm sure there are jerk kids in Gen Ed who pick on the AAP kids. There are kind, compassionate kids in gen ed, just as there are in AAP. There are 2E kids in AAP as well as Gen Ed. It's really going to be kid/school dependent.

It’s not just the kids. It’s the parents. I had one straight up tell me, thinking my kid was in AAP, that those kids were better and it was best they keep separated from Gen Ed kids.

This sort of opinion permeates AAP, parents and kids. And it is with great -though silent- pleasure that I now see my Gen Ed kid lappping lots of those AAP kids.

Not all AAP parents. I love my local
Level IV bc the parents are mostly chill. But I heard our center has some of those behaviors. I’ve said it before as an AAP parent in this forum that AAP is not a GT program. But honestly-you sound just as insecure as the AAP parents who are complaining about PP. How about we focus on our own kids and stop making comparisons to make ourselves feel better?

LOL. I have zero to be insecure about. My kid is doing fantastic and didn't need AAP to do it. Howeve,r I have dealt with AAP kids and parents for the last 10 years, thinking they're special. Demanding separate field trips, separate promotion ceremonies . . . So, yeah, this is not a "both sides" type of thing. But whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

PP here. That seems crazy and like a school specific thing. Hopefully your school admin nipped it in the bud? I can’t imagine requesting separate ceremonies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the AAP hate absolutely tells me it’s the right answer for my AAP kid.

Imagine trying to claim FCPS is pumping millions and millions of dollars and logistics challenges, and overhead into an advanced learning infrastructure that is really just some extra math….

Love this forum.

If it’s really just “some extra math,” which I agree it is, then there is no need to sort 3rd graders into two huge separate groups. Again, flexible grouping is the answer, not segregation by entire classrooms.

Centers are really great. I prefer that. It’s great that we have options.

Centers are the absolute worst. FCPS talks a big game about "equity," and then proceeds to segregate children. It's really quite disgusting.

[Anonymous]

The biggest bunch of nonsense is the "Level 1,2,3,4". None of it means anything and is all completely at the discretion of the individual schools/teachers.