Penn President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Ben Sasse (UF president who got tons of grief because he’s a *gasp* Republican senator) but I’ll bet he has rock solid moral clarity on this issue.

He showed them all how to handle it appropriately.

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Too much legal prep, hence robotic legalese answers rather than actually thinking on their feet. None of these woman are dummies irl and would definitely condemn unequivocally any form of antisemitism irl.

I’m not sure the bolded is true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:stupid lib cancel culture

Conservative cancel culture is way worse as it has no moral compass. Not a surprise given the self serving nature of the right.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

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The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:It is outrageous (if not surprising) that Ivy League presidents are being pushed out by monied interests. This exposes the academy for what it is: spineless, compromised, and beholden to the almighty dollar, just like everyone else. They blew their chance to stand on the side of the first amendment and freedom of thought.

This is not about antisemitism; it is about having a nuanced view of a complex situation. The silver lining is that Ackerman and others stand on such shaky ground that they resort to making threats about taking their money elsewhere. Everyone, including and especially college students, know the truth about what has happened to Palestinians in the Israeli occupation and the truth will win out in the end. This is a sad day for democracy.

The sad day for democracy occurred when universities decided to enforce the first amendment as they saw fit, rather than equally across the board. Everyone I know who supports the firings has zero problem with free speech or even hate speech. But it can't solely be allowed for certain groups and not all.

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Moreover, what these presidents did was use the excuse of free speech to allow harassment and bullying. They conflating two separate issues.

The thing that boggles my mind is that they weren't given better advice going into the hearing. All they had to say was: Yes, if students are threatened, and calls for any groups of students' death, then it will be dealt with. Such an easy answer and they couldn't just say that. We would not be here discussing this if they had said that.

I suspect they were given better advice but they were too arrogant to listen. They botched softballs.

I don't know the answer to this, and I am pro-fire them given their refusal to allow free speech equally . . . but I suspect that they were boxed in by their prep and their and their lawyers' belief that the first amendment covered them. Which is the heart of the issue to me. They are willing to allow calls for genocide of certain groups, allow physical harassment of some students though not all, all under the guise of the first amendment. That to me is where they have gone wrong, morally.

Agree. The issue is the inconsistent enforcement.

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That’s a shame. She should have been prepped better and not allowed herself to get pulled into those questions.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

I don't think that words means what you think it means. Genocide is what happened on 10/7 - killing innocent babies and children for no other reason than that they are Jewish.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

+1. Fired over a hypothetical. No one has called for genocide against Jewish people (one-sided interpretations of a chant don’t count). Meanwhile, the Palestinians are being eradicated (even from Southern Gaza where Israel told them to go).

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I don't think Liz Magill handled this well at all, which is too bad. When she did that instagram post this week, it was clear it was a real sinking ship at that point.

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Scott Bok, the Chair of the University of Pennsylvania Board of Trustees, has resigned effective immediately.

“Today, following the resignation of the University of Pennsylvania's President and related Board of Trustee meetings, I submitted my resignation as Chair of the University's Board of Trustees, effective immediately.

While I was asked to remain in that role for the remainder of my term in order to help with the presidential transition, I concluded that, for me, now was the right time to depart.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

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The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

Israel could take care of the problem with the push of a button. They have shown restraint that Palestinians/Hamas would never extend to Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

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The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

Israel could take care of the problem with the push of a button. They have shown restraint that Palestinians/Hamas would never extend to Israel.

You have seriously lost your moral compass if you think anything Israel does is ok as long as don’t actually drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza.

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So they should continue to donate to institutions they disagree with. Right.

They don’t have to continue to donate. That’s their right. But they should not have the right to dictate what can be said and what can’t, who stays and who goes.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1000 - UN General Secretary said it best and they were also calling for his resignation

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

+1. Fired over a hypothetical. No one has called for genocide against Jewish people (one-sided interpretations of a chant don’t count). Meanwhile, the Palestinians are being eradicated (even from Southern Gaza where Israel told them to go).

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