B-CC Lockdown

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Anonymous wrote:Scapegoat principal. Lol. Mooney is the worst school administrator I’ve encountered. Each year is worse than the previous. It is possible he’s a lovely human, but he is not good at his job, be it this particular mess or any of the myriad messes over the last three years.

You must be the OP from the post defending the former crew coach.

[Anonymous]

Mooney sounds awful. How is he still there?

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

My agenda is not to have the pitchfork and torch crowd running BCC. I am a BCC parent too. Even students have rights. I am shocked how little fellow parents on the BCC listserv know about law and civil rights. They expect the school principal to publicly name the perpetrator students, who have at this point only been charged.

I thought Dr. Mooney's second recent statement was extremely clear about what the legal boundaries are within which he is part of a decision-making process about a student presence at school when that student has a reportable offense.

No, the parents want to know what the school-related consequences will be for the 5 students who were arrested for car jacking in the middle of the school of day, found with weapons in the car, etc.

Dr. Mooney statement was completely lacking any actual information. It provided absolutely no information and was therefore not very clear.

As for the kids’ names? No one needs Mooney to put them. Ask your own kids and their friends. This isn’t a state secret at school. The car jacking students are back in class. Kids know. Teachers know.

BCC parent here. You will not, should not and legally cannot know the bold, with or without student names involved. It is illegal under FERPA for the school to publicly discuss the discipline meted out to any student.

Sure, you can ask in general what the range of consequences are for a student accused of armed carjacking, and how the decision is made in general about where that kid goes to school after being charged. But, that is not what BCC parents keep repeatedly and ineffectively asking for, because they would prefer to be an enraged mob focused on a scapegoat principal.

You would not know what FERPA prohibits if it fell on your head.

[Anonymous]

All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mooney sounds awful. How is he still there?

He’s not awful. That’s how.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

The replacement are chosen by the Equity squad. This means whatever enrichment or advanced classes that existed at your school will be a thing of the past.

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The parents just want to know who it was so they can gossip about it.

Mooney was one of the first principals hired under the "you will do as we say and only as we say" by MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

My agenda is not to have the pitchfork and torch crowd running BCC. I am a BCC parent too. Even students have rights. I am shocked how little fellow parents on the BCC listserv know about law and civil rights. They expect the school principal to publicly name the perpetrator students, who have at this point only been charged.

I thought Dr. Mooney's second recent statement was extremely clear about what the legal boundaries are within which he is part of a decision-making process about a student presence at school when that student has a reportable offense.

No, the parents want to know what the school-related consequences will be for the 5 students who were arrested for car jacking in the middle of the school of day, found with weapons in the car, etc.

Dr. Mooney statement was completely lacking any actual information. It provided absolutely no information and was therefore not very clear.

As for the kids’ names? No one needs Mooney to put them. Ask your own kids and their friends. This isn’t a state secret at school. The car jacking students are back in class. Kids know. Teachers know.

BCC parent here. You will not, should not and legally cannot know the bold, with or without student names involved. It is illegal under FERPA for the school to publicly discuss the discipline meted out to any student.

Sure, you can ask in general what the range of consequences are for a student accused of armed carjacking, and how the decision is made in general about where that kid goes to school after being charged. But, that is not what BCC parents keep repeatedly and ineffectively asking for, because they would prefer to be an enraged mob focused on a scapegoat principal.

You would not know what FERPA prohibits if it fell on your head.

A zillion BCC parents are big fancy lawyers. There are a laws such as FERPA and Maryland statute/code of regulations/MCPS regulations guiding the release of disciplinary information. If parents believe that Mooney is obligated (or at least not prohibited) from stating what the children are charged with (presumably because by law it might have been a reportable offense) and what the MCPS disciplinary consequences are for the children, then they should write a public letter outlining that legal argument and ask him publicly to release the info. The PTA should be marshaling those legal resources/arguments , not merely moderating listserv discussion. Otherwise, it's just endless pointless listserv rabble-rousing on an unproductive demand that won't get met.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

The replacement are chosen by the Equity squad. This means whatever enrichment or advanced classes that existed at your school will be a thing of the past.

Thanks for your casual bigotry equating equity with poor performance. This attitude is not needed at BCC.

Also AP and IB classes are never going away at the high school level. They are huge money makers for College Board.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

The replacement are chosen by the Equity squad. This means whatever enrichment or advanced classes that existed at your school will be a thing of the past.

Thanks for your casual bigotry equating equity with poor performance. This attitude is not needed at BCC.

Also AP and IB classes are never going away at the high school level. They are huge money makers for College Board.

Correction. AP is only a moneymaker for the College Board. IB is an AP competitor whose fees for curriculum and testing go to a different entity, the International Baccalaureate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

I hear Beidleman's available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mooney sounds awful. How is he still there?

He’s not awful. That’s how.

What do you think he does well?

[Anonymous]

When his hands aren’t tied by MCPS, he does a good job communicating. For example, in the most recent lockdown, he communicated with parents and students quickly and repeatedly because we was able to use the Remind app and not wait for MCPS to approve every word, as was the case with last year’s lockdown, when parents were in the dark. He’s open and willing to answer parents’ questions about various topics at parent town halls/PTSA meetings. He follows through with answers when he says he will.

Why do you think he’s awful?

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Anonymous wrote:All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

The replacement are chosen by the Equity squad. This means whatever enrichment or advanced classes that existed at your school will be a thing of the past.

Thanks for your casual bigotry equating equity with poor performance. This attitude is not needed at BCC.

Also AP and IB classes are never going away at the high school level. They are huge money makers for College Board.

Correction. AP is only a moneymaker for the College Board. IB is an AP competitor whose fees for curriculum and testing go to a different entity, the International Baccalaureate.

IB exam scores are less likely to be accepted by US universities for credit compared to AP exam scores.

- parent of former IB student now a freshman, who took both IB and AP exams, and got a ton of credits going into college.

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Anonymous wrote:All you people trying to push out your principals have no idea of the terrible replacements waiting in the wings. There are many people who were passed over many times in the past and for good reason, but who are going to get placed in a high school in 2024 because they will have no competition. It’s critical to drive out abusive and lawbreaker principals, but know that there are many good ones leaving as well ( several who haven’t yet announced their retirement/change of plans) because they’re so demoralized. Be careful what you wish for. We’re about to see an influx of far worse high school principals with proven track records of mediocrity. I’d prefer green and inexperienced to mediocre if I had to pick. If you like your high school principal at all or if you don’t love them but think they’re doing a decent job, you should encourage them to stay.

The replacement are chosen by the Equity squad. This means whatever enrichment or advanced classes that existed at your school will be a thing of the past.

Thanks for your casual bigotry equating equity with poor performance. This attitude is not needed at BCC.

Also AP and IB classes are never going away at the high school level. They are huge money makers for College Board.

It's leftists like you who we could do without. Equity is a Marxist concept that requires discrimination.