Bancroft-Specific Boundary Study Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there’s interest in a radical change.

Bancroft families are flipping out over the possibility of losing their long-standing right to Deal. When they rezone, there is usually an effort make it more of a like-for-like change.

Adams seems more viable for that reason. It takes pressure off of Deal and keeps J-R somewhat diverse.

Did they do like-for-like for Crestwood?

They gave them a 10 year grandfather. Also, Crestwood lost access via their elementary feeder part as their elementary didn't feed to Deal so when DC moved to High School pyramids, that's how they lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:chec for immersion and Deal for traditional middle school seems to be working fairly well.

Why not just CHEC? Clear feeder pattern and very close. It isn’t a full immersion school. It is Tubman’s only feed, so it works for non-immersion kids.

CHEC is more overcrowded than Deal or JR.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Bancroft parent. There are many underlying issues at play that aren’t PC to discuss.

Bancroft’s principal and another senior Bancroft admin voiced concerns about parents wanting to have it both ways in last week’s townhall. Some of the loudest voices advocating for retaining rights to Deal/JR are also the ones who have the most to lose to their livelihood. e.g. It’s not a good look when neighborhood realtor residents/parents are arguing for “diversity” when clearly a shift would impact their bottom line.

Diversity? They should be looking how to make the demographics of Bancroft much closer to that of Ward 1. How can a Ward 1 school only be 4% Black?

I think the gist here is that non-POC UMC Mount Pleasant parents are arguing that Bancroft adds Latino diversity to Deal/JR (a central argument the last time boundaries were studied). This is the demographic opposed to removing the lower boundary streets as proposed (expensive, mostly SFH properties on Hobart/Irving/Kenyon) to help bring in kids at the upper boundary (more Latino families and students from lower cost housing, like the Woodner).

Some of the more vocal advocates for maintaining the current geographical feeder pattern (Deal/JR) are non-POC Bancroft parents who are also dominant Mt. P real estate sellers/buyers agents. I think the PP was pointing this out, and they're not wrong. The existing pattern is a reason people pay a premium to live in Mount Pleasant vs. neighboring communities.

But a significant portion of the Latino kids actually opt to go to CHEC and Bancroft primarily sends white kids to Deal.

Yes, but an even larger percentage of Latino kids from Bancroft opt for Deal. Latino families at the town hall were vocal about keeping access to Deal. In my experience, some of the families at or near the Woodner do prefer CHEC, but not all. And a lot of the CHEC families are further north and west of the Bancroft boundaries, where the Deal bus is less convenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there’s interest in a radical change.

Bancroft families are flipping out over the possibility of losing their long-standing right to Deal. When they rezone, there is usually an effort make it more of a like-for-like change.

Adams seems more viable for that reason. It takes pressure off of Deal and keeps J-R somewhat diverse.

Parts of the Hill used to feed Wilson/J-R until 10 years ago, things change. Was that like-for-like?

[Anonymous]

Man, people here are bitter!

They live on the Hill, but are trolling a thread about Bancroft because of a decade-plus grudge that they were eliminated from the Deal feeder pyramid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:chec for immersion and Deal for traditional middle school seems to be working fairly well.

Yeah but Deal is going to be off the table -- you have got to see the writing on the wall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there’s interest in a radical change.

Bancroft families are flipping out over the possibility of losing their long-standing right to Deal. When they rezone, there is usually an effort make it more of a like-for-like change.

Adams seems more viable for that reason. It takes pressure off of Deal and keeps J-R somewhat diverse.

Parts of the Hill used to feed Wilson/J-R until 10 years ago, things change. Was that like-for-like?

Same with us in Adams-Morgan--we went from Wilson/Jackson-Reed to Cardozo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, people here are bitter!

They live on the Hill, but are trolling a thread about Bancroft because of a decade-plus grudge that they were eliminated from the Deal feeder pyramid?

They never fed to Deal, just Wilson. Just like Crestwood, the change to have elementary schools feed to a pyramid changed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crestwood didn't see a decline in RE values when it lost feeder rights to Deal/JR a decade ago.

Crestwood prices are much more stagnant that AU park prices (going back 2 decades). not saying it is because of schools, but i'm not sure the premise of this question is entirely correct

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, people here are bitter!

They live on the Hill, but are trolling a thread about Bancroft because of a decade-plus grudge that they were eliminated from the Deal feeder pyramid?

They never fed to Deal, just Wilson. Just like Crestwood, the change to have elementary schools feed to a pyramid changed it.

half the city feed to wilson not that long ago. white and black flight gutted many DC schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, people here are bitter!

They live on the Hill, but are trolling a thread about Bancroft because of a decade-plus grudge that they were eliminated from the Deal feeder pyramid?

They never fed to Deal, just Wilson. Just like Crestwood, the change to have elementary schools feed to a pyramid changed it.

half the city feed to wilson not that long ago. white and black flight gutted many DC schools

Here is an old DCPS HS map: http://morganeseducationblog.weebly.com/uploads/4/2/1/8/42181999/6685155_orig.jpg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, people here are bitter!

They live on the Hill, but are trolling a thread about Bancroft because of a decade-plus grudge that they were eliminated from the Deal feeder pyramid?

They never fed to Deal, just Wilson. Just like Crestwood, the change to have elementary schools feed to a pyramid changed it.

half the city feed to wilson not that long ago. white and black flight gutted many DC schools

Why comment on this post? Doesn't have anything to do with PP.

[Anonymous]

I missed this week's town halls. Are any Bancroft parents who attended able to give a synopsis of any new Bancroft-specific developments?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:chec for immersion and Deal for traditional middle school seems to be working fairly well.

Yeah but Deal is going to be off the table -- you have got to see the writing on the wall.

Huh? DME’s interactive map (link below) suggests that Bancroft will keep access to Deal under any of the current proposals.

https://www.dcschoolboundaryexplorer.com/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:chec for immersion and Deal for traditional middle school seems to be working fairly well.

Why not just CHEC? Clear feeder pattern and very close. It isn’t a full immersion school. It is Tubman’s only feed, so it works for non-immersion kids.

The middle school is dual language, and that is the only option. The Tubman and HD Cooke students often have a much more difficult experience than those coming from Marie Reed or Bancroft because they have to take content classes in Spanish with no foundation in the language.