Twin flames netflix

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However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.

It's worse than "bizarre", it's basically a kind of rape. Frankly Keely should be in jail along with Jeff and Megan. She clearly had her own god complex if she thought she had the authority to tell people whether they were men or women. I don't buy that she was just "brainwashed" into it, just like I don't buy that Elle innocently wandered into a club and got thrown in jail. You need a ton of hard evidence to put a restraining order on somebody.

That's one thing that didn't make sense to me in the documentary. Okay so Psycho Jeff was encouraging Elle to date her ex and confront him over his cold behavior...and then she goes to a club and he's there and she's in jail? I feel like that story wasn't told properly because it didn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Yo, I just watched this finally and it is flipping insane.

One of my friends has gone down the rabbit hole of following another pair of insane "twin flame" cult leaders with hilariously pretentious names: Lukaijah and Saskia Diamond (CAN YOU MAKE THIS SH*T UP??)

After I checked out this "Diamond" couple, who look exactly like the attractive life coach con artists I guessed they would be, I watch the Netflix documentary.

HOLY. HELL.

Like you guys, this is straight up evil with a capital E. I have never seen such a depth of gaslighting, theft, control and abuse before. I feel so, so bad for these girls especially who were told to change their gender.

Jeff and "Shaleia" are not in love, I can tell that. They are in a trauma bond at best, and I think they are just together as business partners. "Shaleia" looks like she's on drugs. Jeff is Lex f**king Luthor.

Why haven't the FBI prosecuted them yet? Why are they getting away with embezzling money into their church when that church is literally running for-profit companies??

I want to now report this Lukaijah and Saskia Diamond fraud couple because I'm not having anyone I know get mixed up in this sh*t.

I'm so done with this life coach MLM stuff. It is the ultimate pyramid scheme and almost all of them are liars and grifters. I myself almost got sucked in by a "femininity" coach who used all the right spiritual language.

We need to take this twin flame cult DOWN for GOOD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.
However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.

It's worse than "bizarre", it's basically a kind of rape. Frankly Keely should be in jail along with Jeff and Megan. She clearly had her own god complex if she thought she had the authority to tell people whether they were men or women. I don't buy that she was just "brainwashed" into it, just like I don't buy that Elle innocently wandered into a club and got thrown in jail. You need a ton of hard evidence to put a restraining order on somebody.

That's one thing that didn't make sense to me in the documentary. Okay so Psycho Jeff was encouraging Elle to date her ex and confront him over his cold behavior...and then she goes to a club and he's there and she's in jail? I feel like that story wasn't told properly because it didn't make sense.

Listen to the Wondery podcast. The guy that Elle stalked and harassed directly gives his own perspective, and she was definitely doing a whole lot more than the Netflix documentary lets on: https://wondery.com/shows/twin-flames/

He has the whole of episode 3 ("Honey Badger of Love") to himself. She stalked him EVERYWHERE, sent him threatening voicemails, tricked her way into his apartment and refused to leave, followed him to Germany, screamed at women he was dancing with and said they had STDs, and made him fear for his life.

He says in the podcast that he didn't want to get a restraining order but felt that he had no other choice left to him. And when he got her arrested outside the club, it was because the police already knew what he was going through. He had been forwarding Elle's emails and voicemails to the police for months, maybe a full year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.
However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.

It's worse than "bizarre", it's basically a kind of rape. Frankly Keely should be in jail along with Jeff and Megan. She clearly had her own god complex if she thought she had the authority to tell people whether they were men or women. I don't buy that she was just "brainwashed" into it, just like I don't buy that Elle innocently wandered into a club and got thrown in jail. You need a ton of hard evidence to put a restraining order on somebody.

Yeah, this is fair. I thought it was weird in the documentary that the director and narrative was so sympathetic to Keely, because none of her victims wanted to reconcile with her except Angie. Her own sister is completely disturbed by her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Jeff is purposefully following the Scientology playbook. It’s 80% moneymaking scam, 20% sadistic control of others.

Yeah, but I'm not sure even Scientology took it to the level of coercing women to believe they were transgender. It's like Jeff looked at David Miscavige (one of the most virulently abusive men to ever exist) and thought, "Pffft, amateur hour, I'm taking it up a notch!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.
However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.

It's worse than "bizarre", it's basically a kind of rape. Frankly Keely should be in jail along with Jeff and Megan. She clearly had her own god complex if she thought she had the authority to tell people whether they were men or women. I don't buy that she was just "brainwashed" into it, just like I don't buy that Elle innocently wandered into a club and got thrown in jail. You need a ton of hard evidence to put a restraining order on somebody.

Yeah, this is fair. I thought it was weird in the documentary that the director and narrative was so sympathetic to Keely, because none of her victims wanted to reconcile with her except Angie. Her own sister is completely disturbed by her.

Watching this now, pausing to re-read this thread. Good insights here & in thread, I was wondering about this too.

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Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬

She's a monster. Why didn't the military court martial her?

And Keely for that matter comes across just as bad. She literally bullied women into CHANGING THEIR GENDER even though you can tell she had many opportunities to stop and tell Jeff and Shalooloo or whatever to STFU. I listened to the podcast on Wondery - they go into more detail of how Elle and Keely were a**holes.

Unbelievable story overall. My ex-husband, a rapist, is actually from Farmington Hills, Michigan. That's where these cult leaders used to live. Got pretty damn triggered because I may have been getting abused in Farmington Hills around the time Fake Jesus and his toadies were doing all this abuse.

I actually listened to that podcast when it first came out and it's way better than the docuseries. I admit I kinda stalked the members' socials after listening to the podcast last year but maybe it's a good thing because I saw Victoria Bonilla's Facebook posts before she set her FB to private.

Victoria wrote about how Keely was throwing a tantrum on TikTok about how the Wondery podcast focused on Angie's and Victoria's perspective, and she said that Keely abused her so much that she was puking and praying for God to kill her. And she said that what came out in the podcast was like 1% of what Keely really did. At least to Victoria.

I didn't buy Keely's fake tears in the docuseries after reading those FB posts. Sounds like she may have also read what Victoria wrote and decided to cover her bases.

Now I want to know what these social media posts said. Just finished watching this and haven't listened to the wondery podcast - looked it up and apparently you have to pay for it, so I'm not that curious just yet. Anyone know where to find the podcast episodes for free? Drop a link here.

frankly, a lot of them came off as kinda narcissistic - the Sara girl who was paired up as sisters/special friends with Stephanie, Elle, those two sisters Marly and Keely, etc. It's kind of easy to see why they'd look at the cult leader's narcissism and see it as something to aspire to. I felt bad for Angie though, she seems like this really broke her. And I felt terrible for the parents.

Unbelievable that all these people bought into a guy who looks like a pencil with manic eyes. His wife looks dull, like she has absolutely nothing going on in her head. She's probably in survival mode because if the cult leader is abusing the followers this much, he must be doing the same to his "twin flame" at home.

[Anonymous]

Whistleblowers almost always have complex motives and - since they participated in something evil - compromised morals.

I think we can take the women in the documentary at their word (except Elle I guess?) because someone can be a terrible human being and still be a legit victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yo, I just watched this finally and it is flipping insane.

One of my friends has gone down the rabbit hole of following another pair of insane "twin flame" cult leaders with hilariously pretentious names: Lukaijah and Saskia Diamond (CAN YOU MAKE THIS SH*T UP??)

After I checked out this "Diamond" couple, who look exactly like the attractive life coach con artists I guessed they would be, I watch the Netflix documentary.

HOLY. HELL.

Like you guys, this is straight up evil with a capital E. I have never seen such a depth of gaslighting, theft, control and abuse before. I feel so, so bad for these girls especially who were told to change their gender.

Jeff and "Shaleia" are not in love, I can tell that. They are in a trauma bond at best, and I think they are just together as business partners. "Shaleia" looks like she's on drugs. Jeff is Lex f**king Luthor.

Why haven't the FBI prosecuted them yet? Why are they getting away with embezzling money into their church when that church is literally running for-profit companies??

I want to now report this Lukaijah and Saskia Diamond fraud couple because I'm not having anyone I know get mixed up in this sh*t.

I'm so done with this life coach MLM stuff. It is the ultimate pyramid scheme and almost all of them are liars and grifters. I myself almost got sucked in by a "femininity" coach who used all the right spiritual language.

We need to take this twin flame cult DOWN for GOOD.

If you thought this one was crazy, listen to the podcast about Teal Swan.
https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/the-gateway-teal-swan/id1387560474

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬

She's a monster. Why didn't the military court martial her?

And Keely for that matter comes across just as bad. She literally bullied women into CHANGING THEIR GENDER even though you can tell she had many opportunities to stop and tell Jeff and Shalooloo or whatever to STFU. I listened to the podcast on Wondery - they go into more detail of how Elle and Keely were a**holes.

Unbelievable story overall. My ex-husband, a rapist, is actually from Farmington Hills, Michigan. That's where these cult leaders used to live. Got pretty damn triggered because I may have been getting abused in Farmington Hills around the time Fake Jesus and his toadies were doing all this abuse.

I actually listened to that podcast when it first came out and it's way better than the docuseries. I admit I kinda stalked the members' socials after listening to the podcast last year but maybe it's a good thing because I saw Victoria Bonilla's Facebook posts before she set her FB to private.

Victoria wrote about how Keely was throwing a tantrum on TikTok about how the Wondery podcast focused on Angie's and Victoria's perspective, and she said that Keely abused her so much that she was puking and praying for God to kill her. And she said that what came out in the podcast was like 1% of what Keely really did. At least to Victoria.

I didn't buy Keely's fake tears in the docuseries after reading those FB posts. Sounds like she may have also read what Victoria wrote and decided to cover her bases.

Now I want to know what these social media posts said. Just finished watching this and haven't listened to the wondery podcast - looked it up and apparently you have to pay for it, so I'm not that curious just yet. Anyone know where to find the podcast episodes for free? Drop a link here.

frankly, a lot of them came off as kinda narcissistic - the Sara girl who was paired up as sisters/special friends with Stephanie, Elle, those two sisters Marly and Keely, etc. It's kind of easy to see why they'd look at the cult leader's narcissism and see it as something to aspire to. I felt bad for Angie though, she seems like this really broke her. And I felt terrible for the parents.

Unbelievable that all these people bought into a guy who looks like a pencil with manic eyes. His wife looks dull, like she has absolutely nothing going on in her head. She's probably in survival mode because if the cult leader is abusing the followers this much, he must be doing the same to his "twin flame" at home.

I listened to the podcast for free on Apple last year... that's weird wonder why it's not sub based.