HS junior athletes, already committed to top schools

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Anonymous wrote:https://gocrimson.com/sports/womens-lacrosse/roster

Wow, looks like a real cross section of America.

Lots of diversity, some are blonde and some are brunette.

It can't be helped that lax skews white just like basketball and football skew black.

There is a big difference though in the raw numbers. You take any Div 1 school (including Ivy) and the basketball team is maybe 75% black (less at Princeton and Duke) and the Football team is 60-70% black. Outside of these two sports, you will not see any significant number of blacks on any other teams at any given university. Harvard has like 40 varsity teams!! The vast majority of the roster of these teams are white (70%+). My issue is the fact that most of these other sports don't afford an opportunity for blacks and Latinos (Asians to a lesser extent) to participate because of lack of access or opportunity. There are no swimming teams or water polo teams in black and brown public schools, etc. Let's acknowledge how this disadvantages these students because there is absolutely no possibility of them taking advantage of the biggest admission boost to these schools when it comes to slots.

In the case of the women's Harvard LAX, this would be 100%...

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Anonymous wrote:My son's athletic recruiting was way more stressful than my son that just filled out applications and was either accepted or not.

My son had multiple schools tell him his SAT required score since he had a 3.7 UW GPA. One was very high, he knew he would not get the score and that coach was actually very impressed that my son was honest with him and did not waste his time.

My son had coaches call, call, call then ghost. It was really quite insane and unprofessional. It would not have been a big deal to just say, nope we went with someone else. But instead, my son was honoring his word with that coach and not talking to some others. But once it was clear the coaches were not going to return his call, he moved on. But, it would have been nice to get a call/text/email... but nothing... just a ghost.

He had to have at least 15 phone interviews, many went well with kind of sort of maybe offers that did or did not pan out. He had a few calls where coaches are all in but then 3 weeks later ghosted him.

This was how they treated a 15/16 year old. It's was quite insane to me.

My other son, visit, GPA, tests, Naviance, essays, applications, then just wait. Could you imagine getting a letter, hey your in we love you... psyche, we chose someone else, or better yet, get a call you are accepted then they ghost you. It would never happen, but it happens with athletes.

As a parent of athletes and nonathletes, I don't know why you weren't able to pivot and have him also do the regular admission process simultaneously with the recruiting. Everyone else I know has said recruiting was far easier than the application process for a non sports recruit. I don't mean this in a mean way at all but was your recruiting son on the cusp of the schools' needs? I definitely get that recruiting is a lot of work for the athlete, but it is not as high stress as having zero idea where you will get in to (provided you are actually recruited.)

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The Harvard lax team looks way more diverse than when I was there. Two girls have wavy hair. I never knew any with wavy hair

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Here’s field hockey. More international representation, with blonds from Austria, Belgium, Germany, England and Holland. I thought Harvard was grooming the future leaders of America? This makes me mad.

https://gocrimson.com/sports/field-hockey/roster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:* as well as staying healthy and continuing to perform. My freshman year roommate was supposed to go to Stanford, but blew out her knee the summer before senior year.

This happened to my friend too. They were a top student so ended up somewhere good.

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Have the NCAA rules changed. I thought you couldn’t contact coaches until the summer before Senior year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son's athletic recruiting was way more stressful than my son that just filled out applications and was either accepted or not.

My son had multiple schools tell him his SAT required score since he had a 3.7 UW GPA. One was very high, he knew he would not get the score and that coach was actually very impressed that my son was honest with him and did not waste his time.

My son had coaches call, call, call then ghost. It was really quite insane and unprofessional. It would not have been a big deal to just say, nope we went with someone else. But instead, my son was honoring his word with that coach and not talking to some others. But once it was clear the coaches were not going to return his call, he moved on. But, it would have been nice to get a call/text/email... but nothing... just a ghost.

He had to have at least 15 phone interviews, many went well with kind of sort of maybe offers that did or did not pan out. He had a few calls where coaches are all in but then 3 weeks later ghosted him.

This was how they treated a 15/16 year old. It's was quite insane to me.

My other son, visit, GPA, tests, Naviance, essays, applications, then just wait. Could you imagine getting a letter, hey your in we love you... psyche, we chose someone else, or better yet, get a call you are accepted then they ghost you. It would never happen, but it happens with athletes.

I’m sorry to hear that, student athletes are not protected enough

They have changed the rules since then, so kids only deal with this for 1 year, Aug 1 Junior year-Application deadline of senior year. Coaches can't contact F/S anymore, so that's a move in the right direction.

No, still happens, go9ing through it now. We love you, we want you... and then nothing. It's pretty stressful.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s field hockey. More international representation, with blonds from Austria, Belgium, Germany, England and Holland. I thought Harvard was grooming the future leaders of America? This makes me mad.

https://gocrimson.com/sports/field-hockey/roster

I noticed that in basketball too, LOTS if international athletes. The number of international students in general is skyrocketing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have the NCAA rules changed. I thought you couldn’t contact coaches until the summer before Senior year.

They call the coach and ask the athlete to call them.

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Anonymous wrote:How do the Ivys work the academic index without SAT or ACTs?

I was told at a recruiting seminar for high academic schools that there is no “test optional” for Ivy athletes for just this reason - the index requires it.

NP. I don’t know much about the process but a mom friend with a kid playing a sport at any ivy said her kid was told not to report his SAT score. Committed at the star of senior year. Got in Early (don’t know what they call it at his school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s field hockey. More international representation, with blonds from Austria, Belgium, Germany, England and Holland. I thought Harvard was grooming the future leaders of America? This makes me mad.

https://gocrimson.com/sports/field-hockey/roster

International recruits often receive significant/ full ride financial packages.

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Anonymous wrote:Have the NCAA rules changed. I thought you couldn’t contact coaches until the summer before Senior year.

They call the coach and ask the athlete to call them.

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I think the rules depend on the sport. Parent of D1 recruited athlete. Many many calls with coaches- starting just before sophomore year.

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NCAA no longer requires SAT and schools are test optional. I know plenty of Ivy athletes the last couple years who have been test optional. The Ivies don't have the same academic requirements for recruits as MIT or even the NESCACs.

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Anonymous wrote:https://gocrimson.com/sports/womens-lacrosse/roster

Wow, looks like a real cross section of America.

Lots of diversity, some are blonde and some are brunette.

It can't be helped that lax skews white just like basketball and football skew black.

There is a big difference though in the raw numbers. You take any Div 1 school (including Ivy) and the basketball team is maybe 75% black (less at Princeton and Duke) and the Football team is 60-70% black. Outside of these two sports, you will not see any significant number of blacks on any other teams at any given university. Harvard has like 40 varsity teams!! The vast majority of the roster of these teams are white (70%+). My issue is the fact that most of these other sports don't afford an opportunity for blacks and Latinos (Asians to a lesser extent) to participate because of lack of access or opportunity. There are no swimming teams or water polo teams in black and brown public schools, etc. Let's acknowledge how this disadvantages these students because there is absolutely no possibility of them taking advantage of the biggest admission boost to these schools when it comes to slots.

Can you talk to me more about how Latinos aren't afforded opportunities to participate in soccer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://gocrimson.com/sports/womens-lacrosse/roster

Wow, looks like a real cross section of America.

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