HS junior athletes, already committed to top schools
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Anonymous
It’s fake. Are you always so credulous? |
Anonymous
As someone from the west coast, I am shocked how athletes are still mostly white kids from suburban NY, NJ, MA, PA, MD. These kids, whether from their local public or private, are basically from feeder schools. I keep seeing the same schools over and over as I look at various college lacrosse rosters ( I know nothing about lacrosse but it piqued my interest) |
Anonymous
LOTS of high schools offer lacrosse |
Anonymous
This. Both of my nieces received offers in 10th grade, both were required to apply and be within a given score and grade ranges or the verbal committement would be withdrawn. |
Anonymous
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My son's athletic recruiting was way more stressful than my son that just filled out applications and was either accepted or not.
My son had multiple schools tell him his SAT required score since he had a 3.7 UW GPA. One was very high, he knew he would not get the score and that coach was actually very impressed that my son was honest with him and did not waste his time. My son had coaches call, call, call then ghost. It was really quite insane and unprofessional. It would not have been a big deal to just say, nope we went with someone else. But instead, my son was honoring his word with that coach and not talking to some others. But once it was clear the coaches were not going to return his call, he moved on. But, it would have been nice to get a call/text/email... but nothing... just a ghost. He had to have at least 15 phone interviews, many went well with kind of sort of maybe offers that did or did not pan out. He had a few calls where coaches are all in but then 3 weeks later ghosted him. This was how they treated a 15/16 year old. It's was quite insane to me. My other son, visit, GPA, tests, Naviance, essays, applications, then just wait. Could you imagine getting a letter, hey your in we love you... psyche, we chose someone else, or better yet, get a call you are accepted then they ghost you. It would never happen, but it happens with athletes. |
Anonymous
I’m sorry to hear that, student athletes are not protected enough |
Anonymous
They have changed the rules since then, so kids only deal with this for 1 year, Aug 1 Junior year-Application deadline of senior year. Coaches can't contact F/S anymore, so that's a move in the right direction. |
Anonymous
It can't be helped that lax skews white just like basketball and football skew black. |
Anonymous
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The schools do encourage their top choices to commit early junior year but they are clear that the kids are not assured admission at this point. Sadly, you'll see kids have to reopen their recruitment late junior year or over their senior summer. This even happens with Stanford football where they have a lot of flexibility with the AO.
The other frustrating thing is that the schools will walk back their offers too. |
Anonymous
| I also remember I had a preliminary need-based financial aid letter too. They try to get ahead on things since the schools have to be competitive and want to lock in top targets. |
Anonymous
| Commit doesn't mean admit |
Anonymous
It’s not lying…most say verbal commitment. The commitment at any school is verbal until senior year. Contingent on grades and test scores, if applicable. Coaches are fairly good at weeding out athletes that won’t make it through the admissions process. |
Anonymous
95% of the time it does. |
Anonymous
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One of many reasons schools love test optional. They can squeeze in their sports recruits with less questions asked.
These kids are not lying, they have verbal commitment that they will be admitted. There is some vetting going on but it's the golden ticket that no one else gets except maybe some top donor kids. So, yes better off to be a top lacrosse player than a top student. |
Anonymous
There is a big difference though in the raw numbers. You take any Div 1 school (including Ivy) and the basketball team is maybe 75% black (less at Princeton and Duke) and the Football team is 60-70% black. Outside of these two sports, you will not see any significant number of blacks on any other teams at any given university. Harvard has like 40 varsity teams!! The vast majority of the roster of these teams are white (70%+). My issue is the fact that most of these other sports don't afford an opportunity for blacks and Latinos (Asians to a lesser extent) to participate because of lack of access or opportunity. There are no swimming teams or water polo teams in black and brown public schools, etc. Let's acknowledge how this disadvantages these students because there is absolutely no possibility of them taking advantage of the biggest admission boost to these schools when it comes to slots. |