Catholic School for Non-Catholic/Non-Christian Families

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Anonymous wrote:Attempts at conversion would seem to be the least of what the OP ought to be concerned about.

The Catholic boys at Gonzaga are a homogeneous crowd. Many are connected to the school, went to the same set of middle schools and have similar family backgrounds.

No one is going to be overtly unkind to a classmate who comes from a different religion and culture.

But then boys of high school age hang around and are friends with others they have something in common with. The more things they have in common, including background and interests, the better.

So how would a Muslim boy, who is from a newly-arrived family, fare in this environment? It’s possible he would find himself socially isolated after finding few with whom he has much in common.

Consider the case of alcohol consumption. Alcohol is part of many Catholic cultures, especially the Irish, and the boys bring this with them to high school.

Seems like a strange choice for the OP. It’s not the public schools and it is cheaper than the secular privates, but there are plenty of thorns on this particular rose bush.

First, why are you so focused on Gonzaga? It may not be a good fit for, OP, but there are plenty of schools that would be.

Second, are you seriously playing this drunken Irish trope in 2023?

Google “Irish American culture alcohol”

In 2023, I guess avoiding hurting someone’s feeling trumps the facts. At least for some.

Bigotry is more than hurting feelings.

I guess googling to read the NIH and other academic papers on this subject was too much work.

What subject?

As stated above.

“Irish American Culture alcohol”

Lots of academic studies including one from the NIH.

By the way, I’m 100%i Irish. To deny that drinking isn’t a part of the culture is willful blindness.

[Anonymous]

Good grief PP, do you actually think that a teen in today’s high schools really needs to worry about the drinking habits of the Irish?!?!
Of all things to worry about, that does not make a list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good grief PP, do you actually think that a teen in today’s high schools really needs to worry about the drinking habits of the Irish?!?!
Of all things to worry about, that does not make a list.

Wouldn’t bother me.

But I’m not so sure that it wouldn’t bother the Muslim father who started this thread.

[Anonymous]

That is my point! Do you really think that 3rd or 4th generation Irish are the only teens who are drinking?!?!
The culture of the Irish doesn’t impact drinking in today’s American high schools. At all.

And drinking is a small part of the larger issue, though certainly still an issues, than other drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That is my point! Do you really think that 3rd or 4th generation Irish are the only teens who are drinking?!?!
The culture of the Irish doesn’t impact drinking in today’s American high schools. At all.

And drinking is a small part of the larger issue, though certainly still an issues, than other drugs.

Agree it’s a stupid borderline-bigoted comment. And no, I don’t believe that PP is Irish American. There is no more alcohol use in a DC area Catholic HS than there is in DC area public and/or non-Catholic private schools. It’s not Catholic culture; it’s US culture. If it’s a concern for a Muslim parent, it wouldn’t be because the school is Catholic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That is my point! Do you really think that 3rd or 4th generation Irish are the only teens who are drinking?!?!
The culture of the Irish doesn’t impact drinking in today’s American high schools. At all.

And drinking is a small part of the larger issue, though certainly still an issues, than other drugs.

Agree it’s a stupid borderline-bigoted comment. And no, I don’t believe that PP is Irish American. There is no more alcohol use in a DC area Catholic HS than there is in DC area public and/or non-Catholic private schools. It’s not Catholic culture; it’s US culture. If it’s a concern for a Muslim parent, it wouldn’t be because the school is Catholic.

Yes, but ….

At a more diverse public or private, the Muslim kids might find others who were more like them. In a very homogeneous Catholic school, that might not be possible.

The student population. Especially at the “better” Catholic schools is very homogeneous by design and tradition.

Some of the larger Catholic high schools have less homogeneous populations but they are also much more similar to public schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Attempts at conversion would seem to be the least of what the OP ought to be concerned about.

The Catholic boys at Gonzaga are a homogeneous crowd. Many are connected to the school, went to the same set of middle schools and have similar family backgrounds.

No one is going to be overtly unkind to a classmate who comes from a different religion and culture.

But then boys of high school age hang around and are friends with others they have something in common with. The more things they have in common, including background and interests, the better.

So how would a Muslim boy, who is from a newly-arrived family, fare in this environment? It’s possible he would find himself socially isolated after finding few with whom he has much in common.

Consider the case of alcohol consumption. Alcohol is part of many Catholic cultures, especially the Irish, and the boys bring this with them to high school.

Seems like a strange choice for the OP. It’s not the public schools and it is cheaper than the secular privates, but there are plenty of thorns on this particular rose bush.

First, why are you so focused on Gonzaga? It may not be a good fit for, OP, but there are plenty of schools that would be.

Second, are you seriously playing this drunken Irish trope in 2023?

Google “Irish American culture alcohol”

In 2023, I guess avoiding hurting someone’s feeling trumps the facts. At least for some.

Bigotry is more than hurting feelings.

I guess googling to read the NIH and other academic papers on this subject was too much work.

What subject?

As stated above.

“Irish American Culture alcohol”

Lots of academic studies including one from the NIH.

By the way, I’m 100%i Irish. To deny that drinking isn’t a part of the culture is willful blindness.

How many actual Irish people do you think are at Gonzaga? Maybe some have Irish grandparents, but I think even that close a generation would be a stretch. And I somehow doubt you’re off the boat yourself.