Americans at high risk advised to wear masks as new Covid variant detected

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Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


I’m a big proponent of masks, and I think that high quality masks, regularly, diligently and properly worn, help protect the user.

I don’t think compelled masking does anything except possibly create a false sense of security and/or satisfy the control obsessions of people who like to tell other people what to do. Compulsory masking gets you filthy, pointless face diapers, and filthy, improperly worn below-nose and chin surgical masks, along with contaminated litter everywhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


Precisely proving my point. As long as there is enough of sentiment that masks are for protecting others and we need to forever do this in some facilities, they may come back. In this case, PP will be overjoyed while majority of people frustrated and maybe even angry (especially when it comes to kids). Division will once again set it, and animosity will prevail public places. Great times ahead , especially since we already know it will not do a thing to stop this virus and it will be upon us again a few months later. And then it may open the doors again to booster mandates, more colleges starting these again, although luckily it's not a terribly popular approach.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


I’m a big proponent of masks, and I think that high quality masks, regularly, diligently and properly worn, help protect the user.

I don’t think compelled masking does anything except possibly create a false sense of security and/or satisfy the control obsessions of people who like to tell other people what to do. Compulsory masking gets you filthy, pointless face diapers, and filthy, improperly worn below-nose and chin surgical masks, along with contaminated litter everywhere.


Totally on point, that's why masks should always be voluntary. If anyone wants any PPE, they are welcome to it, and should probably learn to how to fit it and use it properly. Everyone else should be left alone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just a data point here . . . With no political angle. I am a fit healthy 50’s mom who has avoided COVID even while nursing sick hubby and kids over the past three years. I’m Vax’d. Don’t know which strain I picked up while flying last weekend but it knocked me to my knees. Doc said he’s seen a lot of this in the last 2 weeks. He put me on Paclovid, because I had shortness of breath, and let me tell you this antiviral ROCKS. I am on the mend.

I also got sick 10 days ago after traveling and caught COVID. First time I have ever tested positive. I felt horrible for three days, still very weak. No meds beyond Advil and Tylenol and no shortness of breath here. It wasn’t a “little cold” for me at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does this strain start with a really bad sore throat?

Did for me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


Precisely proving my point. As long as there is enough of sentiment that masks are for protecting others and we need to forever do this in some facilities, they may come back. In this case, PP will be overjoyed while majority of people frustrated and maybe even angry (especially when it comes to kids). Division will once again set it, and animosity will prevail public places. Great times ahead , especially since we already know it will not do a thing to stop this virus and it will be upon us again a few months later. And then it may open the doors again to booster mandates, more colleges starting these again, although luckily it's not a terribly popular approach.



Masks are not, and never have been “to protect others.” If that were the case, te people in charge of such things would have been routing the most effective masks to the most contagious people back when the disease was at its height. They didn’t do that. They diverted and hoarded the most effective protection for themselves and their cronies and left everybody else to fend for themselves with useless makeshift substitutes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


Precisely proving my point. As long as there is enough of sentiment that masks are for protecting others and we need to forever do this in some facilities, they may come back. In this case, PP will be overjoyed while majority of people frustrated and maybe even angry (especially when it comes to kids). Division will once again set it, and animosity will prevail public places. Great times ahead , especially since we already know it will not do a thing to stop this virus and it will be upon us again a few months later. And then it may open the doors again to booster mandates, more colleges starting these again, although luckily it's not a terribly popular approach.



Masks are not, and never have been “to protect others.” If that were the case, te people in charge of such things would have been routing the most effective masks to the most contagious people back when the disease was at its height. They didn’t do that. They diverted and hoarded the most effective protection for themselves and their cronies and left everybody else to fend for themselves with useless makeshift substitutes.


IKR? How selfish of those healthcare workers to want N95s when they were treating covid patients.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


No schools and medical facilities should not be masking. Mask mandates infringe on personal liberty for little to no benefits. Whole countries and states like Sweden / Florida did not engage in lengthy mask mandates and lockdowns and ended up with lower age adjusted all cause excess mortality (despite the desperate wishes of the MSM that there would be mass death and chaos resulting)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The article also states:

While the CDC said it was “too soon” to know whether BA 2.86 will lead to more severe illness in comparison to other variants, officials said that data from locations where it has been discovered have not shown any signs that it is particularly virulent. These areas have not seen signs of increased transmission – such as higher infection rates or emergency room visits – though CDC officials note it was “too soon” to analyze BA 2.86’s impacts based on these data.


Today in the Washington Post

"This latest covid variant could be the best yet at evading immunity"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/08/25/covid-variant-ba-2-86-pirola/


It’s the shut-down voting in person Biden gonna win variant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


Precisely proving my point. As long as there is enough of sentiment that masks are for protecting others and we need to forever do this in some facilities, they may come back. In this case, PP will be overjoyed while majority of people frustrated and maybe even angry (especially when it comes to kids). Division will once again set it, and animosity will prevail public places. Great times ahead , especially since we already know it will not do a thing to stop this virus and it will be upon us again a few months later. And then it may open the doors again to booster mandates, more colleges starting these again, although luckily it's not a terribly popular approach.



There is no way I will take another shot. Last time I went into our health facility I got a cold. My doctors don’t get why I don’t follow through with some stuff but getting sick from the doctor is a nightmare are especially when it takes weeks to get care and you have to go to the er for any help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


Places like medical facilities and schools should be masking. Especially large schools here when this is highly contagious and there is no way to distance.


No schools and medical facilities should not be masking. Mask mandates infringe on personal liberty for little to no benefits. Whole countries and states like Sweden / Florida did not engage in lengthy mask mandates and lockdowns and ended up with lower age adjusted all cause excess mortality (despite the desperate wishes of the MSM that there would be mass death and chaos resulting)


No, it doesn’t. Stop being dramatic. Grow up.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just a data point here . . . With no political angle. I am a fit healthy 50’s mom who has avoided COVID even while nursing sick hubby and kids over the past three years. I’m Vax’d. Don’t know which strain I picked up while flying last weekend but it knocked me to my knees. Doc said he’s seen a lot of this in the last 2 weeks. He put me on Paclovid, because I had shortness of breath, and let me tell you this antiviral ROCKS. I am on the mend.

I also got sick 10 days ago after traveling and caught COVID. First time I have ever tested positive. I felt horrible for three days, still very weak. No meds beyond Advil and Tylenol and no shortness of breath here. It wasn’t a “little cold” for me at all.


Hope the vacation was worth it.
Anonymous
What is the problem with wearing a mask while sitting in a medical waiting room?

I can understand why elementary school kids struggle with masks but think it should be required indoors for middle and high schoolers. A lot of student and staff absences could be avoided.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Correct, but some people on here (who are not qualified to put a bandaid on their child’s boo-boo) will assure you that masks don’t work…Even though all the experts are advising those who are high risk to wear them to protect themselves.


Exactly. The “WAAAAHHHH STOP TALKING ABOUT COOOOOVIIIIIIDDDDD” buffoons live on DCUM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huge spike?


it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike


There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it.


We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again. In some places mandates already restarted. The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy. If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath. We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing. Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures. And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted. Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns.
and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.


It doesn’t make us “happy” to acknowledge that this is in fact what is happening. It is reality. There will be waves. They are disproportionately dangerous for some in our society and not to others. The question is: how do we respond to those facts?

Your preference is we all act like it’s not happening and some degree of eugenic selection occurs and in fact may even be celebrated (as it has been in this very thread).

My preference is a society that values inclusion of disabled people, and in a society like the one I want there will be some masking required—especially in places where personal presence is not optional.

For those of us who cannot take the chance of repeated COVID infection, those mask rules make us more free to move around the world with the same freedom you claim to so prize for yourself and in general.

We can each repeat ourselves about this forever. The bottom line is you are highly ideologically motivated to act like masks do not matter and I am highly motivated by a desire to keep living as normally as possible, and without additional disability, to act like they do. Don’t confuse that with whether I am “happy” about it or not.
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