5 yr old (early oct bday), how to get her in 1st grade

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Yes. And, OP wants to ensure that her child will be the youngest. Remember, she wants to manipulate the cutoff age for her child.

I'd be curious to know why she wants to do this?

Maybe her child's birthday is October 1st or October 2nd or October 3rd. You all can't seriously argue that a child born on September 29th or 30th is so much more mature now and in the future than a child born a day or two later. The cutoff is just a date. If you fall within a plus/minus of that date it makes sense to question what is right for your child.

Out of a class of 20-25, there are likely less than a handful with Sept birthdays. It is likely that there will be a span from the preceding October through September.
As a former K teacher, I would strongly consider redshirting late September birthdays. Of course, there are exceptions--but why send your child early?

I have a child with late August birthday and another child with late September birthday. They both went on time, but according to you I should have strongly considered redshirting the September one? I disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Yes. And, OP wants to ensure that her child will be the youngest. Remember, she wants to manipulate the cutoff age for her child.

I'd be curious to know why she wants to do this?

Maybe her child's birthday is October 1st or October 2nd or October 3rd. You all can't seriously argue that a child born on September 29th or 30th is so much more mature now and in the future than a child born a day or two later. The cutoff is just a date. If you fall within a plus/minus of that date it makes sense to question what is right for your child.

Out of a class of 20-25, there are likely less than a handful with Sept birthdays. It is likely that there will be a span from the preceding October through September.
As a former K teacher, I would strongly consider redshirting late September birthdays. Of course, there are exceptions--but why send your child early?

I have a child with late August birthday and another child with late September birthday. They both went on time, but according to you I should have strongly considered redshirting the September one? I disagree.

You don't understand what "consider" means? And, I said there are exceptions.
But, please remember, OP does not want to send her child "on time." She wants to send her child early.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consider

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is, one of my daughters should have been red shirted, and one of my sons should not have.

It seems red shirting is a way to circumvent what used to be called "hyper" (now aspie) boys. ANY preschool teacher will tell you to hold back boys - which is just what it is. Preschool teachers will not necessarily say so about girls.

Most preschool teachers have no background or training to advise to hold back. It’s job security for them.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Yes. And, OP wants to ensure that her child will be the youngest. Remember, she wants to manipulate the cutoff age for her child.

I'd be curious to know why she wants to do this?

Maybe her child's birthday is October 1st or October 2nd or October 3rd. You all can't seriously argue that a child born on September 29th or 30th is so much more mature now and in the future than a child born a day or two later. The cutoff is just a date. If you fall within a plus/minus of that date it makes sense to question what is right for your child.

Out of a class of 20-25, there are likely less than a handful with Sept birthdays. It is likely that there will be a span from the preceding October through September.
As a former K teacher, I would strongly consider redshirting late September birthdays. Of course, there are exceptions--but why send your child early?

As a teacher you want kids held back because it’s easier on you and not necessarily best for them. The held back fall kids are often too old for the grade.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Just a guess, but perhaps some parents have slightly higher aspirations for their children?

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Anonymous wrote:6:41 back. And also the biggie. The mental health issues. You hear about it in the news but it’s more common that you think with teens. Even if it’s not your kid, it will affect someone they know. Kids are dealing with heavy stuff. Don’t make it all happen a year sooner.

Being old for your grade can also cause social and mental health issues. They can feel out of place and not find their group.

This has not been our experience. My kid wasn’t redshirted, just has a fall birthday. A lot of kids have fall birthdays. Being on the older side has been a positive in every way in elementary and middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Yes. And, OP wants to ensure that her child will be the youngest. Remember, she wants to manipulate the cutoff age for her child.

I'd be curious to know why she wants to do this?

Maybe her child's birthday is October 1st or October 2nd or October 3rd. You all can't seriously argue that a child born on September 29th or 30th is so much more mature now and in the future than a child born a day or two later. The cutoff is just a date. If you fall within a plus/minus of that date it makes sense to question what is right for your child.

Out of a class of 20-25, there are likely less than a handful with Sept birthdays. It is likely that there will be a span from the preceding October through September.
As a former K teacher, I would strongly consider redshirting late September birthdays. Of course, there are exceptions--but why send your child early?

As a teacher you want kids held back because it’s easier on you and not necessarily best for them. The held back fall kids are often too old for the grade.

How do you know someone has never been a teacher without telling you they have never been a teacher?

FWIW, the teachers who are recommending that the kid wait another year are the ones who have worked with and observed their achievements and behavior.

How does it "help" a K teacher by recommending that the child do another year?

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t - everyone red shirts their boys so she’ll be in class with kids two full years older than her.

Some people, not everyone.

Yes some people. But I am also going to say pretty much NO people redshirt their October birthday kid so stop saying she will be in class with kids "two full years older." Nobody is turning 7 in October of Kinder.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t do it. My November BD kid started K on time, turning 6 shortly after the school year started. He was reading, writes full sentences, does 2nd and 3rd grade math - but also he’s happy and social. There is plenty to learn in K that is not academic.

Where does he write full sentences and do 2nd and 3rd grade math?

In public school. He benefited greatly from casually observing his brother’s virtual 1st grade year when he was in preschool.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Yes. And, OP wants to ensure that her child will be the youngest. Remember, she wants to manipulate the cutoff age for her child.

I'd be curious to know why she wants to do this?

Maybe her child's birthday is October 1st or October 2nd or October 3rd. You all can't seriously argue that a child born on September 29th or 30th is so much more mature now and in the future than a child born a day or two later. The cutoff is just a date. If you fall within a plus/minus of that date it makes sense to question what is right for your child.

Out of a class of 20-25, there are likely less than a handful with Sept birthdays. It is likely that there will be a span from the preceding October through September.
As a former K teacher, I would strongly consider redshirting late September birthdays. Of course, there are exceptions--but why send your child early?

As a teacher you want kids held back because it’s easier on you and not necessarily best for them. The held back fall kids are often too old for the grade.

How do you know someone has never been a teacher without telling you they have never been a teacher?

FWIW, the teachers who are recommending that the kid wait another year are the ones who have worked with and observed their achievements and behavior.

How does it "help" a K teacher by recommending that the child do another year?

It’s easier when the kids come in with the skills they need vs having to teach the. Mine was fully reading at 4 and fine in a classroom. No way was I holding back.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t - everyone red shirts their boys so she’ll be in class with kids two full years older than her.

Some people, not everyone.

Yes some people. But I am also going to say pretty much NO people redshirt their October birthday kid so stop saying she will be in class with kids "two full years older." Nobody is turning 7 in October of Kinder.

A march-June child held back would be 7. They start as a 6 year old and turn 7.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t - everyone red shirts their boys so she’ll be in class with kids two full years older than her.

Some people, not everyone.

Yes some people. But I am also going to say pretty much NO people redshirt their October birthday kid so stop saying she will be in class with kids "two full years older." Nobody is turning 7 in October of Kinder.

A march-June child held back would be 7. They start as a 6 year old and turn 7.

I don't know any March-June kids who are redshirted. I had an April boy. Believe me, had he been September, I would have redshirted him. Maybe, even August.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t - everyone red shirts their boys so she’ll be in class with kids two full years older than her.

This. This is exactly why I waited a year to enroll my late Aug. kid. I did not want her in classes with boys two years older than her. Many, many boys redshirt. Wait.

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I sent my late September boy when he was still 4. The pre-K program at his daycare pretty much covered K material.

He has ADHD and was not demonstrably more mature a year later. He was diagnosed at 7 and had no trouble with transitions to MS, HS or college due to his age. He's starting grad school at 21 in August.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't have an answer for you on whether pushing ahead is the correct choice for your child. But, to address some of the PPs who were concerned about college. I have an October b-day in a district where the cutoff was 12/31, so I started college at 17 and it was fine. I think it likely is easier to have a child start college at 17 than it is to have a child who turns 18 at the start of their senior year of HS and then you have to parent a legal adult through a full year of HS.

Same, but a December birthday. I survived.

Someone will always be the youngest in a class and that was me. I didn’t care that my friends could drive at 16 or drink at 21 before me.

Yes. And, OP wants to ensure that her child will be the youngest. Remember, she wants to manipulate the cutoff age for her child.

I'd be curious to know why she wants to do this?

Maybe her child's birthday is October 1st or October 2nd or October 3rd. You all can't seriously argue that a child born on September 29th or 30th is so much more mature now and in the future than a child born a day or two later. The cutoff is just a date. If you fall within a plus/minus of that date it makes sense to question what is right for your child.

Out of a class of 20-25, there are likely less than a handful with Sept birthdays. It is likely that there will be a span from the preceding October through September.
As a former K teacher, I would strongly consider redshirting late September birthdays. Of course, there are exceptions--but why send your child early?

I have a child with late August birthday and another child with late September birthday. They both went on time, but according to you I should have strongly considered redshirting the September one? I disagree.

NP. I would hope you strongly considered it. As a parent, you should really consider all options and do what is best for your child. I’m not saying waiting a year is what is best for you child, just pointing out that you definitely should have considered it.