F-16 to Ukraine per Biden

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So where are these F-16s going to be based? That's the real question. If they are based in Ukraine, then they won't matter much. If based in Poland, this is a huge deal.

How so?

If you mean why isn't it a big deal if they are based in Ukraine, its because they will be difficult to maintain and easy to destroy on the ground.

If they are based in Poland its a big deal because its an escalation of Polish/NATO involvement. Downing a "Ukrainian" F-16 over Polish airspace would be very likely.

Got it, thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nuking American Cities. Some upsides??

Absolutely incomprehensible opinion.

Have you seen Hiroshima?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

Why is Biden so interested in Ukraine…

Um, have you ever heard of the European Union? NATO perhaps??

Biden isn’t interested in Ukraine; America is interested in defeating our enemy: Russia. Let me repeat that:

RUSSIA IS OUR ENEMY

CHINA IS ALSO OUR ENEMY

Remove everything made by "our enemy" from your house and your person, and see what's left on you.

The U.S. doesn't like it when other countries become economically powerful. They see it as a direct threat because only America is allowed to be powerful.

That's why you have stupid nonsense like the U.S. ambassador in China saying "we're an uncontested leader in this region". You are? Where did you go to diplomacy school?

America’s major mistake over the past few decades was to treat China like “a trading partner.”

China is our enemy; not our trading partner.

No, our major mistake was invading Iraq. It prevented us from executing the strategic pivot to Asia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

Semiconductors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

Semiconductors

Can’t it just be relocated? I think they are actually doing it already
Also why there in the first place? I am sure China wanted it for a long time
Is it the same as flirting with ex ussr republics like Georgia and Ukraine?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

Semiconductors

Can’t it just be relocated? I think they are actually doing it already
Also why there in the first place? I am sure China wanted it for a long time
Is it the same as flirting with ex ussr republics like Georgia and Ukraine?

No

Have you seen what happens when they have tried to relocate it to the us?

Tsmc said Americans are the worst employees in the semi fab space

😂

It was covered in nyt and posted on the jobs board here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you happy with this escalation, or opposed?

Personally, I am opposed and I fear this will lead to a wider war.

I also hope Biden will try to broker a deal to avoid escalation. Maybe if Russia agrees not to use its planes to bomb Ukrainian cities Ukraine will agree not to bomb cities in Russia.

DP and this is my biggest concern - I don’t think there will be nuclear anything but I don’t want civilians to die on either side.
I know I am talking like a layperson not a politician but I don’t really care who rules both these countries or how they are divided up - I am sure people will figure out their lives under either president. I do care for no more lives lost though, no more cities bombed, and no more tears shed.

So I take it you'd happily live under president Putin as well, if it came to pass that he became your president by force?

Yes, I’d rather live under him (in fact life in Russia was pretty ok until 2022) than lose my relatives, my home and my life. That’s for sure!

Baa. Feel free to leave. I think you can probably catch a flight from Istanbul to Moscow? Goodbye!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

Semiconductors

Can’t it just be relocated? I think they are actually doing it already
Also why there in the first place? I am sure China wanted it for a long time
Is it the same as flirting with ex ussr republics like Georgia and Ukraine?

Shipping lanes and semiconductors. If Taiwan falls, China will control most shipping lanes to/from India and the Middle East to/from the US West Coast, Korea, Japan, etc.

[Anonymous]

But what I don't understand is why Russia is so afraid of a plane that entered into service in 1979? Mig 29's entered into service in '83? That's sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

You do not understand microchips, even after 2020-21 ??

Moreover, Taiwan will be China’s first step, but hardly its last.

Pay closer attention to China. Now.

Back to F-16s:

Russia has provoked the West by using their new Kinzal / Satan hyper-sonic weapons. Putin has crossed a red line.

This provocation MUST NOT GO UNANSWERED.

Besides, maybe Ukraine purchased them. There is no proof they did not just buy them, like any nation could.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

Semiconductors

We can’t learn to make our own because?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the vital national interest in Ukraine, if any?

It's whether you would've stopped Hitler in 1939? Europe (U.S. allies) are freaked out by this:
https://t.me/ukr_sof/528

Despite the cinematic music, this is not video game footage. It's the Russian military using incendiary weapons on civilian housing. The Russian army has raped, pillaged, murdered, stolen children - you name it. Go back a few pages on this post. Yesterday the Russian State Duma and Interior Ministry were trying to determine if a girl who braided her hair blue and yellow should be labeled a traitor, an Enemy of the State. This is an example of what plays on Russian national TV:
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-map-us-borders-new-mexico-ukraine-war-1797231

Also, you seem to be blissfully in the dark of how the Russians have directly manipulated US public opinion using our own social media? Election interference ring a bell? Active spying? Maybe you don't watch the news?

The Cold War is hotter than it's ever been, but the American public is somewhat stupid and hasn't caught on yet.

Putin is not hitler.

Russia is not interwar Germany.

Keep your eye on China.

We are being led by dumb strategists.

China's watching to see whether the West will capitulate on Russia. Because that's the green light for them to go after Taiwan.

I promise this is an honest question but what is the strategic significance of Taiwan for the US?

Semiconductors

We can’t learn to make our own because?

Americans don’t work as hard as Taiwanese do at fabs

that’s the literal answer - not even joking — nyt covered it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So where are these F-16s going to be based? That's the real question. If they are based in Ukraine, then they won't matter much. If based in Poland, this is a huge deal.

How so?

If you mean why isn't it a big deal if they are based in Ukraine, its because they will be difficult to maintain and easy to destroy on the ground.

If they are based in Poland its a big deal because its an escalation of Polish/NATO involvement. Downing a "Ukrainian" F-16 over Polish airspace would be very likely.

isn’t that the Russian party line for everything we give? Russia hasn’t even been able to destroy all of Ukraine’s mig-29s, what makes you think they will be able to wipe out f16s?