Magruder school renaming process

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But the petition was started by a white parent and to me feels much more like performative allyship rather than doing something substantive to help reduce structural racism.

The highest of high fashion!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I too am in favor of place names over people names. And I'm black. But I also wasn't horrified by the school being named after Magruder, since he wasn't PRIMARILY known for being a slaveowner, but for his role in the Revolutionary War. Just like I'm not offended and horrified by the Washington Monument, or the $1 bills I carry around in my pocket.

If we were naming schools after people who are NOTABLE in history for advocating or championing slavery, like say Robert E. Lee, then yes, it's inappropriate to name buildings, schools and streets after that individual. But people, who like many upper class, powerful people at the time participated in slavery, but are being recognized for other significant historical achievements that have nothing to do with slavery, doesn't offend me.

We live in a state called Maryland, named after Queen Mary, who was alive during the 1600s. How much did she benefit from slavery? Are we going to rename the state too?

But anyway, like I said, to avoid the whole issue, let's just go with location-based names for schools and call it a day.

Even MLK Jr., who is a noted civil rights leader, has later been found out to be a pretty serious womanizer and adulterer. Are we going to strip everything with his name on it because he was flawed in that area morally?

Are you really equating adultery with keeping another human being as your property?

Are you really saying that people who lived 250 years ago should be judged by the morals of today despite good things they may have done? In 250 years history may look back on 2023 and say the same thing about our society.

[Anonymous]

Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I too am in favor of place names over people names. And I'm black. But I also wasn't horrified by the school being named after Magruder, since he wasn't PRIMARILY known for being a slaveowner, but for his role in the Revolutionary War. Just like I'm not offended and horrified by the Washington Monument, or the $1 bills I carry around in my pocket.

If we were naming schools after people who are NOTABLE in history for advocating or championing slavery, like say Robert E. Lee, then yes, it's inappropriate to name buildings, schools and streets after that individual. But people, who like many upper class, powerful people at the time participated in slavery, but are being recognized for other significant historical achievements that have nothing to do with slavery, doesn't offend me.

We live in a state called Maryland, named after Queen Mary, who was alive during the 1600s. How much did she benefit from slavery? Are we going to rename the state too?

But anyway, like I said, to avoid the whole issue, let's just go with location-based names for schools and call it a day.

Even MLK Jr., who is a noted civil rights leader, has later been found out to be a pretty serious womanizer and adulterer. Are we going to strip everything with his name on it because he was flawed in that area morally?

Are you really equating adultery with keeping another human being as your property?

Are you really saying that people who lived 250 years ago should be judged by the morals of today despite good things they may have done? In 250 years history may look back on 2023 and say the same thing about our society.

Neither should be acceptable, especially if the person is religious but it is a bit absurd to compare society way back when..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

Yes, it's on Board Docs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't have enough staff, security, resources for kids with SN, and basics like textbooks. They cannot even keep the tutoring due to the budget so this is a huge waste of money.

+1 exactly

Spend the time and resources on what is truly important for kids and teachers. I bet 99% of the kids don't even care about who this guy was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

Yes, it's on Board Docs

Most likely white liberals who don't care about solving actual problems. That is the woke demographic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

Yes, it's on Board Docs

Most likely white liberals who don't care about solving actual problems. That is the woke demographic.

Yeah. Let's make America great again and go back to our country's founding principles: disenfranchised women and owned blacks. So much easier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

Yes, it's on Board Docs

Most likely white liberals who don't care about solving actual problems. That is the woke demographic.

Yeah. Let's make America great again and go back to our country's founding principles: disenfranchised women and owned blacks. So much easier.

White liberals like you think you're doing something righteous and for minorities, but you aren't. You're serving yourself and your own agenda and you're using people of color to accomplish disruptive, anarchist goals that serve you, not the black and brown communities.

There is not a plurality of black and brown people who are offended by Magruder's name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I too am in favor of place names over people names. And I'm black. But I also wasn't horrified by the school being named after Magruder, since he wasn't PRIMARILY known for being a slaveowner, but for his role in the Revolutionary War. Just like I'm not offended and horrified by the Washington Monument, or the $1 bills I carry around in my pocket.

If we were naming schools after people who are NOTABLE in history for advocating or championing slavery, like say Robert E. Lee, then yes, it's inappropriate to name buildings, schools and streets after that individual. But people, who like many upper class, powerful people at the time participated in slavery, but are being recognized for other significant historical achievements that have nothing to do with slavery, doesn't offend me.

We live in a state called Maryland, named after Queen Mary, who was alive during the 1600s. How much did she benefit from slavery? Are we going to rename the state too?

But anyway, like I said, to avoid the whole issue, let's just go with location-based names for schools and call it a day.

Even MLK Jr., who is a noted civil rights leader, has later been found out to be a pretty serious womanizer and adulterer. Are we going to strip everything with his name on it because he was flawed in that area morally?

Are you really equating adultery with keeping another human being as your property?

Are you really saying that people who lived 250 years ago should be judged by the morals of today despite good things they may have done? In 250 years history may look back on 2023 and say the same thing about our society.

200-250 years ago, there were plenty of people who said that owning people was wrong - including people who actually owned people.

Not to mention that it's a silly argument. If there are still MCPS schools named after people, 250 years from now, they can worry about that then. I'm not going to worry about it now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid stupid stupid. MCPS has bigger problems that they should be focusing and spending money on.

MCPS is capable of doing several different things at the same time.

Nope. Actually it’s not. There is only so much money in the budget. MCPS does not have an unlimited source of funds.

+1 It costs money and effort to change the name of the school. If you are so offended by it, then maybe the NCAA could foot the bill. MCPS has *much* bigger issues that they need to deal with. They requested a huge budget increase, and Elrich wanted to raise property taxes to help fund the huge budget. If I knew that the increase in my taxes was going to go to pay for teachers, I would be fine with it. But, I do not want my taxes going to pay for renaming a school because ..exactly who was offended by the name of the school ?

Every penny should be used for teachers and closing the achievement gap and dealing with disciplinary issues (or lack thereof) -- now, those are highly offensive issues in MCPS.

I guarantee that almost no student cares about the name of the school, nor does it impact their ability to learn.

It's true that the NCAA has a lot of money, but I'm not quite understanding the connection between the NCAA and the potential renaming of Magruder HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop naming things after people!

Don't create idols to worship!

This.
There's a reason new York city calls schools by a number and it's not lack of creativity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

Yes, it's on Board Docs

Most likely white liberals who don't care about solving actual problems. That is the woke demographic.

Yeah. Let's make America great again and go back to our country's founding principles: disenfranchised women and owned blacks. So much easier.

White liberals like you think you're doing something righteous and for minorities, but you aren't. You're serving yourself and your own agenda and you're using people of color to accomplish disruptive, anarchist goals that serve you, not the black and brown communities.

There is not a plurality of black and brown people who are offended by Magruder's name.

This × 10000000.
Imagine if the time and money spent on renaming Magruder went into resources for the actual students who go to Magruder.
You're actually robbing kids for your own feels. Who the hell knows who George magruder was anyway? Gmab

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

Yes, it's on Board Docs

Most likely white liberals who don't care about solving actual problems. That is the woke demographic.

Yeah. Let's make America great again and go back to our country's founding principles: disenfranchised women and owned blacks. So much easier.

White liberals like you think you're doing something righteous and for minorities, but you aren't. You're serving yourself and your own agenda and you're using people of color to accomplish disruptive, anarchist goals that serve you, not the black and brown communities.

There is not a plurality of black and brown people who are offended by Magruder's name.

This × 10000000.
Imagine if the time and money spent on renaming Magruder went into resources for the actual students who go to Magruder.
You're actually robbing kids for your own feels. Who the hell knows who George magruder was anyway? Gmab

Damn you, Poe's Law!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the signed petition available? I’d love to know who signed it and how many signatures were necessary. I don’t know anyone who signed, and most of my Magruder mom friends are Black and Latino.

It's White women, who have nothing better to do.