Call to discuss the state of Hardy 05/15/23

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. I read DCUM and I thought the prevailing narrative was that charters were bad because "they aren't accountable" to anyone but a private board. Seems like the parents have been making noise about persistent failures of the principal at Hardy and DCPS Central has ignored those entreaties. That is shocking since I was led to believe that parents had a direct voice in leadership hiring and retention at DCPS schools.

Sincerely,
SHOCKED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT

Well, we’re about to find out . . .

The broader question (my sarcasm aside) is how is it any different to lobby DCPS Central than the Board of a charter school? Answer: It isn't. The idea of "accountability" is laughable. DCPS Central is insulated from all criticism and accountability. The IS forced out, discriminated against cost the city $$$$ in a lawsuit at JOW and the solution was...move JOW out of her division. Hundreds of millions in improper contracting dollars are spent and the answer is some low level, unnamed people are disciplined. No report and no higher ups lose their jobs.

Sure, but the stakes for Ferrebee are high on this one. They are pouring tens of millions into a new HS to relieve J-R that will be fed by Hardy. That new HS will never get anywhere if Hardy continues to go down the shitter. A good chunk of the high-performing ESs could go too. We don’t need to get into the fallout from any future security incidents. And a letter that strong, drafted by the entire parent engagement team for all three grades, is not an everyday event.

You think that because it impacts your school and your community and you think W3 schools and your community are the most important. You would be wrong. But points for being as self centered as the W3 cliche would suggest.

Where is the self centered-ness? Any principal who has overseen such a dramatic deterioration in school performance and safety - which can be directly attributed to their incompetence - should be out of a job. That should happen in Ward 8 just as it should happen in Ward 3. No parent in this city should be silent when school leadership is failing to perform their most basic duties. You can do what you do to promote silly stereotypes and sow ethnic division, but I’m damn glad that there are parent volunteers in this city doing what needs to be done to ensure that DCPS doesn’t fall any father than it has already.

The self-centeredness is thinking that THIS is the matter for which the stakes are high for Ferrebee. As if Hardy's issues are unique in a post-Covid world or that one W3 school the the thing that could bring him down.

The relevance of the new high school opening has been explained. But, sure, if you think it's fine for DCPS to overpay by millions for a dated, poorly-located property and then not worry about whether anyone shows up, then yay. I think your expectations for DC's use of tax dollars are regrettably low.

Are you the same poster below who thinks they are super slick and can reframe the issue with no one noticing? Or are there two of you firing away at the same time?

You are introducing points no one raised and/or disagreed with. No one said it was ok to overpay (bonus points for the Fox News type flourish of inserting an opinion based conclusion as fact as if declaring it an overpayment makes it so). No one said people showing up (or not) doesn't matter. The point if my reply is that you and your W3 buddies are laughably self-centered and out of touch if you think Hardy is what will sink Ferrebee. DCPS has lots more pressing issues than this my self involved friend.

That you can't seem to grasp how these points are relevant to the discussion - and to rebutting your stupid stereotyping - is kinda embarrassing. I've read your crap before and it's a pox unto this site. You have no interest in any reasoned discourse, only trolling. Please get lost.

Riddle solved! It is the same poster trying in two different posts to shift the goalposts.

Pro-tip: If you want to post multiple replies and pretend it is different people, don't misuse words basic words like "stereotype" in back to back posts.

[Anonymous]

Is this the Basis booster derailing this thread? Go away!

Meanwhile - I am curious about who organized this call. Was it a group of parents or actually the PTA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this the Basis booster derailing this thread? Go away!

Meanwhile - I am curious about who organized this call. Was it a group of parents or actually the PTA?

A whole bunch of parents. Just curious--why does it matter?

[Anonymous]

I actually think that having the “vaunted” Ward 3 schools start failing and people fleeing is very bad for Ferebee and Bowser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think that having the “vaunted” Ward 3 schools start failing and people fleeing is very bad for Ferebee and Bowser.

Came here to say the same. (And I’ve got no skin in this game.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Basis booster derailing this thread? Go away!

Meanwhile - I am curious about who organized this call. Was it a group of parents or actually the PTA?

A whole bunch of parents. Just curious--why does it matter?

Because it’s important to know how parents can organize effectively.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the Basis booster derailing this thread? Go away!

Meanwhile - I am curious about who organized this call. Was it a group of parents or actually the PTA?

That's some pathological stuff. You found a way to blame Basis for you being self-centered?

What’s pathological is you derailing this thread that has zero to do with you.

[Anonymous]

I was one of the parents who spoke.

It was a group of parents from different experiences and roles (and non-roles) within the school that self-organized. It had been building in different silos for weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who spoke.

It was a group of parents from different experiences and roles (and non-roles) within the school that self-organized. It had been building in different silos for weeks.

Good. More power to you. Breaking down those silos is a great step to start giving more confidence to everyone when they know they are not alone. Good luck!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who spoke.

It was a group of parents from different experiences and roles (and non-roles) within the school that self-organized. It had been building in different silos for weeks.

Good. More power to you. Breaking down those silos is a great step to start giving more confidence to everyone when they know they are not alone. Good luck!!

Thank you. It is hard to describe how off-the-cuff the execution was. I could guess some other speakers, but didn't know for sure. I didn't know what they'd say, but I could guess. I didn't know when I'd speak. There was no petition written to share with people -- we did that overnight after the meeting. The people who spoke (off the top of my head) were a half-in/half-out PTO person, liaison (which isn't really PTO), PTO, LSAT, no affiliation, no affiliation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. I read DCUM and I thought the prevailing narrative was that charters were bad because "they aren't accountable" to anyone but a private board. Seems like the parents have been making noise about persistent failures of the principal at Hardy and DCPS Central has ignored those entreaties. That is shocking since I was led to believe that parents had a direct voice in leadership hiring and retention at DCPS schools.

Sincerely,
SHOCKED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT

Well, we’re about to find out . . .

The broader question (my sarcasm aside) is how is it any different to lobby DCPS Central than the Board of a charter school? Answer: It isn't. The idea of "accountability" is laughable. DCPS Central is insulated from all criticism and accountability. The IS forced out, discriminated against cost the city $$$$ in a lawsuit at JOW and the solution was...move JOW out of her division. Hundreds of millions in improper contracting dollars are spent and the answer is some low level, unnamed people are disciplined. No report and no higher ups lose their jobs.

Sure, but the stakes for Ferrebee are high on this one. They are pouring tens of millions into a new HS to relieve J-R that will be fed by Hardy. That new HS will never get anywhere if Hardy continues to go down the shitter. A good chunk of the high-performing ESs could go too. We don’t need to get into the fallout from any future security incidents. And a letter that strong, drafted by the entire parent engagement team for all three grades, is not an everyday event.

You think that because it impacts your school and your community and you think W3 schools and your community are the most important. You would be wrong. But points for being as self centered as the W3 cliche would suggest.

You are prone to ridiculous assumptions. Can you name any current principal in DCPS who has managed to make such a complete mess in a single year? Hardy is not more important than any other school in the city, but I don't know what to say to you if you believe that DCPS shouldn't remove principals who have such adverse impacts on the schools they are supposed to be leading.

Typical DCUM reply. Move the goalposts and hope no one notices. No one said a poorly performing principal shouldn't be removed. No one (at least not me) defended this principal.; I have no idea who s/he is. What I replied to was the idea that this school specific issue is what is high stakes for Ferrebee. The idea being that because it matters to W3 and people like you care about it that somehow this is do or die time. It's self centered and delusional thinking from people who think all issues and discussions are and should be centered on them and their needs.

Cute that you would try and shift the discussion thusly in the hopes that no one would notice.

You are not making any sense. In particular, what draws you repeatedly to this thread if you know nothing about this principal (and therefore Hardy)? The only apparent reason you are here is to spread crazy stereotypes and pit this city's residents against each other. Now please show yourself out.

Why do you think knowledge of this principal is necessary to critique that you and your W3 buddies think this issue is what Ferrebee succeeds or fails on? You've also just deployed an age old defense to being called out on self-centered, entitled behavior. In your mind anyone who doesn't center their thinking or world view around your needs is pitting residents against each other. The only solution apparently being that all residents should rally around your worldview that you matter most.

You also seem not to know what the word "stereotype" means. I accused you of being self-centered. I then explained no fewer than 3x times you are so and examples of why I so labeled you. Ironically, you continue to reply to explain why your concerns and needs are the most important to Ferrebee and DCPS, thereby proving the point. Stop using words if you don't know what they mean.

You are nothing short of an idiotic bigot. There is no point in attempting to reason with you because you have neither the will nor the capacity to understand how blinkered your worldview is. If for no reason than your own sense of self-respect, please just leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. I read DCUM and I thought the prevailing narrative was that charters were bad because "they aren't accountable" to anyone but a private board. Seems like the parents have been making noise about persistent failures of the principal at Hardy and DCPS Central has ignored those entreaties. That is shocking since I was led to believe that parents had a direct voice in leadership hiring and retention at DCPS schools.

Sincerely,
SHOCKED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT

Well, we’re about to find out . . .

The broader question (my sarcasm aside) is how is it any different to lobby DCPS Central than the Board of a charter school? Answer: It isn't. The idea of "accountability" is laughable. DCPS Central is insulated from all criticism and accountability. The IS forced out, discriminated against cost the city $$$$ in a lawsuit at JOW and the solution was...move JOW out of her division. Hundreds of millions in improper contracting dollars are spent and the answer is some low level, unnamed people are disciplined. No report and no higher ups lose their jobs.

Sure, but the stakes for Ferrebee are high on this one. They are pouring tens of millions into a new HS to relieve J-R that will be fed by Hardy. That new HS will never get anywhere if Hardy continues to go down the shitter. A good chunk of the high-performing ESs could go too. We don’t need to get into the fallout from any future security incidents. And a letter that strong, drafted by the entire parent engagement team for all three grades, is not an everyday event.

You think that because it impacts your school and your community and you think W3 schools and your community are the most important. You would be wrong. But points for being as self centered as the W3 cliche would suggest.

Where is the self centered-ness? Any principal who has overseen such a dramatic deterioration in school performance and safety - which can be directly attributed to their incompetence - should be out of a job. That should happen in Ward 8 just as it should happen in Ward 3. No parent in this city should be silent when school leadership is failing to perform their most basic duties. You can do what you do to promote silly stereotypes and sow ethnic division, but I’m damn glad that there are parent volunteers in this city doing what needs to be done to ensure that DCPS doesn’t fall any father than it has already.

The self-centeredness is thinking that THIS is the matter for which the stakes are high for Ferrebee. As if Hardy's issues are unique in a post-Covid world or that one W3 school the the thing that could bring him down.

The relevance of the new high school opening has been explained. But, sure, if you think it's fine for DCPS to overpay by millions for a dated, poorly-located property and then not worry about whether anyone shows up, then yay. I think your expectations for DC's use of tax dollars are regrettably low.

Are you the same poster below who thinks they are super slick and can reframe the issue with no one noticing? Or are there two of you firing away at the same time?

You are introducing points no one raised and/or disagreed with. No one said it was ok to overpay (bonus points for the Fox News type flourish of inserting an opinion based conclusion as fact as if declaring it an overpayment makes it so). No one said people showing up (or not) doesn't matter. The point if my reply is that you and your W3 buddies are laughably self-centered and out of touch if you think Hardy is what will sink Ferrebee. DCPS has lots more pressing issues than this my self involved friend.

That you can't seem to grasp how these points are relevant to the discussion - and to rebutting your stupid stereotyping - is kinda embarrassing. I've read your crap before and it's a pox unto this site. You have no interest in any reasoned discourse, only trolling. Please get lost.

Riddle solved! It is the same poster trying in two different posts to shift the goalposts.

Pro-tip: If you want to post multiple replies and pretend it is different people, don't misuse words basic words like "stereotype" in back to back posts.

No dice. Multiple people called you out on your stereotyping because that's exactly what you are doing.

[Anonymous]

This was a legit post to try to find out what was going on before the call. Why does it have to devolve into a tomato throwing contest over peripheral issues is beyond me. If you don't have anything to contribute to this particular issue please go vent your petty arguments somewhere else.

Hardy Parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who spoke.

It was a group of parents from different experiences and roles (and non-roles) within the school that self-organized. It had been building in different silos for weeks.

Good. More power to you. Breaking down those silos is a great step to start giving more confidence to everyone when they know they are not alone. Good luck!!

Thank you. It is hard to describe how off-the-cuff the execution was. I could guess some other speakers, but didn't know for sure. I didn't know what they'd say, but I could guess. I didn't know when I'd speak. There was no petition written to share with people -- we did that overnight after the meeting. The people who spoke (off the top of my head) were a half-in/half-out PTO person, liaison (which isn't really PTO), PTO, LSAT, no affiliation, no affiliation.

Thanks for the additional information. Can someone share what was generally requested in the petition?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who spoke.

It was a group of parents from different experiences and roles (and non-roles) within the school that self-organized. It had been building in different silos for weeks.

Good. More power to you. Breaking down those silos is a great step to start giving more confidence to everyone when they know they are not alone. Good luck!!

Thank you. It is hard to describe how off-the-cuff the execution was. I could guess some other speakers, but didn't know for sure. I didn't know what they'd say, but I could guess. I didn't know when I'd speak. There was no petition written to share with people -- we did that overnight after the meeting. The people who spoke (off the top of my head) were a half-in/half-out PTO person, liaison (which isn't really PTO), PTO, LSAT, no affiliation, no affiliation.

Thanks for the additional information. Can someone share what was generally requested in the petition?

The removal of the current principal and the initiation of a process to recruit a new one externally (which I take to mean not part of the existing administration).