There are so many really adorable, affordable houses in Florida

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Anonymous wrote:The majority of people moving to Florida are doing so because they need to. I gladly pay 60k+ a year in taxes to MD/Moco. I can afford the pleasure of not needing to save that $60k to live near a bunch of three toothed Neanderthals.

I am hardly a raging liberal..I just hate stupid people.

Um, okay, plenty of stupid in MoCo and anywhere in the entire country

Oh, and just saw Florida is #1 for education by USNWR? Is MD top ten?

https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-is-ranked-as-number-one-state-for-education-by-u-s-news-world-report.stml

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is doomed. Just no.

Like it or not, FL is the future, despite the hideous politics and climate issues.

Just look at population/economic trends. Which states are experiencing population growth? Which are losing population? Where's new manufacturing going? (Hint, it's not the NE or Rust Belt).

We're in the midst of an historical transition, perhaps the largest we've seen since the post-WWII suburbanization.

Places like FL and TX are "winning" and places like NYC, Chicago are "losing".

Neither climate nor politics are likely to change that anytime soon.

THIS. A lot of people on this forum bash Florida and I wonder if they have any clue about the massive migration, including of wealth, that is going on in this country.

they don't want to accept the fact that people are leaving their shitty states

Wealth was always in FL, rich have multiple homes, they don't "relocate". FL had some of the most expensive compounds in the country where home prices start at 10 mil, and there are many of them on both FL coasts. So what? Movement of working people who are upwardly mobile is what matters, not obscenely rich people buying their 4th vacation homes in some enclave conveniently located near nicer nature and luxury shopping and supply of household staff employees that tend to be not upwardly mobile.

FL experienced migration of those who come there to settle down and work and have higher incomes, this is what drove prices up. It happened during the pandemic because Blue metro areas became unbearable to live in, so people who wanted sense of normalcy and had flexibility moved, and also saved some on cost of housing, COL, etc. But it no longer makes sense if prices are up, it's not longer a "grass is greener" pasture for those seeking lower COL. Political migration will probably continue, but economic migration of upwardly mobile will slow down when prices hit a threshold where staying in your own high COL area would be the same.

Also a lot of well to do East Coasters got second homes in FL to escape when they could work from home and when rates were obscenely low and prices still affordable. Many had to return back to their primary residences when their employers wanted them back to the office or when they simply got bored, missed their old surroundings, families, friends. You would think with departure of those using FL as tax shelter and second home would result in more homes on the market and will drive prices down, but it didn't. People who bought in 2020 with low rates and prices have now doubled their money, have low mtg and aren't selling even if not living there full time. So, inventory continues to be tight and prices high.

Got some data to back this up? I see the exact opposite happened as PP detailed above.

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Anonymous wrote:The majority of people moving to Florida are doing so because they need to. I gladly pay 60k+ a year in taxes to MD/Moco. I can afford the pleasure of not needing to save that $60k to live near a bunch of three toothed Neanderthals.

I am hardly a raging liberal..I just hate stupid people.

Um, okay, plenty of stupid in MoCo and anywhere in the entire country

Oh, and just saw Florida is #1 for education by USNWR? Is MD top ten?

https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-is-ranked-as-number-one-state-for-education-by-u-s-news-world-report.stml

"Since Governor DeSantis took office, Florida has prioritized education by...abolishing woke ideology from the classroom..."

With this type of lunacy, they are going down, down, down. So what if their graduates have less debt on graduation. They will be limited by their lack of critical thinking skills and indoctrination by RWNJs.

Hard pass.

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Anonymous wrote:The majority of people moving to Florida are doing so because they need to. I gladly pay 60k+ a year in taxes to MD/Moco. I can afford the pleasure of not needing to save that $60k to live near a bunch of three toothed Neanderthals.

I am hardly a raging liberal..I just hate stupid people.

Um, okay, plenty of stupid in MoCo and anywhere in the entire country

Oh, and just saw Florida is #1 for education by USNWR? Is MD top ten?

https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-is-ranked-as-number-one-state-for-education-by-u-s-news-world-report.stml

"Since Governor DeSantis took office, Florida has prioritized education by...abolishing woke ideology from the classroom..."

With this type of lunacy, they are going down, down, down. So what if their graduates have less debt on graduation. They will be limited by their lack of critical thinking skills and indoctrination by RWNJs.

Hard pass.

Florida is top ranked in how BAD its education system is.

Sometimes you gotta read between the lines with these corrupt mofos.

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USNWR

Maryland
#23 in Education overall
#23 Pre-K-12
#15 Higher Education

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USNWR

Maryland
#23 in Education overall
#23 Pre-K-12
#15 Higher Education

These kinds of rankings are useless. Schools vary throughout the state depending on where you live. You are going to get higher ranked schools closer to DC in places like Bethesda (some of the highest in the nation). As far as higher education goes, again it depends on where you are going to college. UMD College Park has some highly ranked degree programs, many in the top 5. Being #15 overall is good in any case.

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Five of the top 10 public universities in the US are in California.

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You could not pay me to live in humidity, heat and bug infested Florida. That's below the gnat line--it's like living in the DC summer but with more bugs, for at least double the amount of time. And it's only going to get hotter.

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Anonymous wrote:You could not pay me to live in humidity, heat and bug infested Florida. That's below the gnat line--it's like living in the DC summer but with more bugs, for at least double the amount of time. And it's only going to get hotter.

I live in FL full time for a few years now, I just got back from a visit to NoVa to see friends and family and I saw way more bugs there than I ever see in FL.

Quite a few of you people commenting here sound like dull brained morons in your odd opinions and dense generalizations about FL.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a generic suburban home that has plenty of space, is easy to maintain, great neighborhood, great schools, amazing neighbors, but zero character. I can't afford the entry fee to an analogous neighborhood with charm around here. So I get it.

I visited Mt Lebanon in Pittsburgh a few weeks ago and I fell in love with a different house on every street. Nothing over 500k. Ditto my cousin's neighborhood in FL. She downsized to be near the beach and lives in a mid-century home with her husband and three kids. Every corner looks like something out of Domino or Remodelista. I know these are not perfect areas and I do love my house, but there is a je ne sais quoi about these older neighborhoods that I will always yearn for and never be able to replicate around here.

Yup, you get it.

If it makes you feel any better, our adorable house that we bought in Mt Lebanon in 2000, just sold again in 2023 for 5k more than we sold it back in 2004.

Our ugly Fairfax ranch house has appreciated 200k in the last 10 years. So I keep telling myself cute is overated.

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USNWR

Maryland
#23 in Education overall
#23 Pre-K-12
#15 Higher Education

These kinds of rankings are useless. Schools vary throughout the state depending on where you live. You are going to get higher ranked schools closer to DC in places like Bethesda (some of the highest in the nation). As far as higher education goes, again it depends on where you are going to college. UMD College Park has some highly ranked degree programs, many in the top 5. Being #15 overall is good in any case.

+1. People who are disparaging FL schools are comparing the best MOCO schools to the schools in poor areas in FL. We moved to one of the best school districts in FL and our elementary is far superior to the JKLM that we left. Our HS is so much better than Jackson-Reed too. For one thing it's a lot safer, but the academics and sports are better too. The FL schools are student-focused, not teacher-focused like DCPS. It's a viewpoint that affects everything.

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FL has always been the best state for college because it has always had the lowest tuition. That dominates all other factors.

DeSantis's valor-stealing self-congratulation for not ruining one Florida tradition from long before his tenure, means nothing except that he is a liar who thinks you are stupid.

His current attempts to dismantle education from K through college will be seen in ratings in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:FL has always been the best state for college because it has always had the lowest tuition. That dominates all other factors.

DeSantis's valor-stealing self-congratulation for not ruining one Florida tradition from long before his tenure, means nothing except that he is a liar who thinks you are stupid.

His current attempts to dismantle education from K through college will be seen in ratings in the future.

Important read about how Florida and specifically De Santis manipulate test data to claim the Florida education system is performing well. It isn’t. Rather, students have one of the most “catastrophic” learning regression rates from 4th to 8th grade.

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2023/01/05/floridas-education-system-is-vastly-underperforming-column/

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Anonymous wrote:You could not pay me to live in humidity, heat and bug infested Florida. That's below the gnat line--it's like living in the DC summer but with more bugs, for at least double the amount of time. And it's only going to get hotter.

I live in FL full time for a few years now, I just got back from a visit to NoVa to see friends and family and I saw way more bugs there than I ever see in FL.

Quite a few of you people commenting here sound like dull brained morons in your odd opinions and dense generalizations about FL.

I lived in south Georgia full time for decades and went to Florida frequently during the summer and now live in DC. Most everyone in DC is from somewhere else, and I am from about 20 miles north of the gnat line, thank goodness. I call bs on your response, unless you live in an area of Florida right on the coast, which is not "affordable" to most people.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a random whine. I follow some Instagram accounts that post house listings for good examples of certain house styles, including bungalows (I freaking love bungalows). Often these houses, which are usually recently renovated with thoughtful, original details, have very high price points, and I ooh and aah over them knowing I will never be able to afford a perfect little bungalow in, say, west Los Angeles.

But every now and again these houses are actually reasonably priced at like 350-700k. And then I'll look and they are always, always in Tampa, Florida.

I get it, the houses are cheaper because they are in a place that I, and many other people, don't want to live. I just want to live in a charming little bungalow but that's going to run me 1.5-2m in the DMV even if it's like 1600 sq ft. Waaaaaaaah, I'm being a baby, I want a pretty house even though I'm not rich.

Go ahead and tell me to stop whining now.

Also have to add the insurance costs, which have quadrupled on DiSantis's watch.

Ultimately, it is Florida, which is turning into a GOP Dystopian hell hole.