People getting crap jobs from HYPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better to do that now than hit 30 or 50 with a wife and kids and a head full of regrets. I’ve seen those people and it’s not pretty when the crap hits the fan.

Why would he have a “head full of regrets” if he doesn’t do this? He can still kayak on the weekends.

Oh dear. You really don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better to do that now than hit 30 or 50 with a wife and kids and a head full of regrets. I’ve seen those people and it’s not pretty when the crap hits the fan.

Why would he have a “head full of regrets” if he doesn’t do this? He can still kayak on the weekends.

New grads working in high-paying stereotypical “Harvard grad” jobs don’t have time to go kayaking on the weekends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class people and strivers are soooo boring because EVERY decision is about money. (I’m not saying that money isn’t important, but there’s no need to fixate on it; life is more colorful than money alone.) Consequently, they are not fun, witty, interesting, informative, or even friendly. Instead, they are highly practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded. If a kid can’t kayak at 22, when should he? According to the dopes on this thread: never.

Strivers? Please, you are being incredibly classist and elitist here.

And he can kayak on the weekends while he works a 9 to 5 or is in grad school.

Seriously, do you really think that most of the people who never had an extended adolescence kayaking in their twenties are “practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded?” You are clearly the judgmental one here.

A true “9-5” out of college really will be a crap job. All the well-regarded jobs out of college are absolutely brutal. Very smart to take a breather before jumping into one of those.

[Anonymous]

You are so dumb OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class people and strivers are soooo boring because EVERY decision is about money. (I’m not saying that money isn’t important, but there’s no need to fixate on it; life is more colorful than money alone.) Consequently, they are not fun, witty, interesting, informative, or even friendly. Instead, they are highly practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded. If a kid can’t kayak at 22, when should he? According to the dopes on this thread: never.

Strivers? Please, you are being incredibly classist and elitist here.

And he can kayak on the weekends while he works a 9 to 5 or is in grad school.

Seriously, do you really think that most of the people who never had an extended adolescence kayaking in their twenties are “practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded?” You are clearly the judgmental one here.

A true “9-5” out of college really will be a crap job. All the well-regarded jobs out of college are absolutely brutal. Very smart to take a breather before jumping into one of those.

Not tech!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class people and strivers are soooo boring because EVERY decision is about money. (I’m not saying that money isn’t important, but there’s no need to fixate on it; life is more colorful than money alone.) Consequently, they are not fun, witty, interesting, informative, or even friendly. Instead, they are highly practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded. If a kid can’t kayak at 22, when should he? According to the dopes on this thread: never.

Strivers? Please, you are being incredibly classist and elitist here.

And he can kayak on the weekends while he works a 9 to 5 or is in grad school.

Seriously, do you really think that most of the people who never had an extended adolescence kayaking in their twenties are “practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded?” You are clearly the judgmental one here.

A true “9-5” out of college really will be a crap job. All the well-regarded jobs out of college are absolutely brutal. Very smart to take a breather before jumping into one of those.

Not tech!

Yes also tech. Especially now that “warehousing” fake jobs have all been eliminated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class people and strivers are soooo boring because EVERY decision is about money. (I’m not saying that money isn’t important, but there’s no need to fixate on it; life is more colorful than money alone.) Consequently, they are not fun, witty, interesting, informative, or even friendly. Instead, they are highly practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded. If a kid can’t kayak at 22, when should he? According to the dopes on this thread: never.

Strivers? Please, you are being incredibly classist and elitist here.

And he can kayak on the weekends while he works a 9 to 5 or is in grad school.

Seriously, do you really think that most of the people who never had an extended adolescence kayaking in their twenties are “practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded?” You are clearly the judgmental one here.

As long as he’s paying his own bills and taxes I don’t think taking an unusual job counts as an extended adolescence. Weird that you think office jobs are the only valid career path. Maybe he’ll decide to launch his own kayak related business in a few years. Maybe he will decide office work provides more stability and decide it’s better to kayak on weekends after all. Maybe he’ll pivot into something totally different. But it sounds like he’s found a job that suits him for now and that seems to me a fair adult choice — much better than having family support while he finds an “appropriate” job in this crap economy.

[Anonymous]

[mastodon]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class people and strivers are soooo boring because EVERY decision is about money. (I’m not saying that money isn’t important, but there’s no need to fixate on it; life is more colorful than money alone.) Consequently, they are not fun, witty, interesting, informative, or even friendly. Instead, they are highly practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded. If a kid can’t kayak at 22, when should he? According to the dopes on this thread: never.

Strivers? Please, you are being incredibly classist and elitist here.

And he can kayak on the weekends while he works a 9 to 5 or is in grad school.

Seriously, do you really think that most of the people who never had an extended adolescence kayaking in their twenties are “practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded?” You are clearly the judgmental one here.

As long as he’s paying his own bills and taxes I don’t think taking an unusual job counts as an extended adolescence. Weird that you think office jobs are the only valid career path. Maybe he’ll decide to launch his own kayak related business in a few years. Maybe he will decide office work provides more stability and decide it’s better to kayak on weekends after all. Maybe he’ll pivot into something totally different. But it sounds like he’s found a job that suits him for now and that seems to me a fair adult choice — much better than having family support while he finds an “appropriate” job in this crap economy.

Yes, taking a job kayaking instead of going to grad school or getting a career job (which isn’t that hard with an HYPS degree in Math) is indeed extending your adolescence. It’s not like being an adult at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.

Another post where the body of the text doesn’t match the headline.

I thought you were going to say he was working at Accenture or some other drone job.

I assume he received lots of FA and graduated without debt…so let him be a kayak instructor and then he can go into management at REI or Patagonia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.

There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.

No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is fun and enjoyable and like a gap year. I know a kid who graduated from one of these schools, worked as a backwoods hiking guide for a year, then joined a top tier investment bank.

There’s no way this is real. Top tier IB jobs go out to summer analysts, so they start right after they graduate.

No, they don’t. Your middle class roots are showing. Most IB jobs go to kids with connections.

The kids with connections ARE the summer analysts, dummy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?

My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.

I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.

Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.

Another post where the body of the text doesn’t match the headline.

I thought you were going to say he was working at Accenture or some other drone job.

I assume he received lots of FA and graduated without debt…so let him be a kayak instructor and then he can go into management at REI or Patagonia

I'm a HYP alum who posted about a friend taking a similar gap year upthread. That person later became a Patagonia exec! After grad school etc. But has a lot of cred and actually amazing people skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you major in useless easy stuff

Now majoring in Math is a useless easy degree?

Oh missed that part.
Probably 2.2 GPA

I went to Princeton. At the time I attended, there were only about 6 math majors per year. Every single one of them was a genius and destined for an elite PhD. No one in that department had a 2.2 GPA. They would have crashed in 200 level math and switched to something else. I think the young man is either doing a gap year or two, or he might eventually start his own kayak school. He’s fine. We don’t all aspire to work on Wall Street. Math majors, at least at Princeton, love learning for the sake of learning.

[Anonymous]

I’m guessing that someone who had all the talent and judgment and savvy required to get into Stanford knows what they’re doing now too. Calm down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[mastodon]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle class people and strivers are soooo boring because EVERY decision is about money. (I’m not saying that money isn’t important, but there’s no need to fixate on it; life is more colorful than money alone.) Consequently, they are not fun, witty, interesting, informative, or even friendly. Instead, they are highly practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded. If a kid can’t kayak at 22, when should he? According to the dopes on this thread: never.

Strivers? Please, you are being incredibly classist and elitist here.

And he can kayak on the weekends while he works a 9 to 5 or is in grad school.

Seriously, do you really think that most of the people who never had an extended adolescence kayaking in their twenties are “practical, uptight, judgmental, and narrow-minded?” You are clearly the judgmental one here.

As long as he’s paying his own bills and taxes I don’t think taking an unusual job counts as an extended adolescence. Weird that you think office jobs are the only valid career path. Maybe he’ll decide to launch his own kayak related business in a few years. Maybe he will decide office work provides more stability and decide it’s better to kayak on weekends after all. Maybe he’ll pivot into something totally different. But it sounds like he’s found a job that suits him for now and that seems to me a fair adult choice — much better than having family support while he finds an “appropriate” job in this crap economy.

Yes, taking a job kayaking instead of going to grad school or getting a career job (which isn’t that hard with an HYPS degree in Math) is indeed extending your adolescence. It’s not like being an adult at all.

This was actually a plot point on the Cosby Show. Oldest daughter Sonya and her husband Elvin, both Princeton grads, open up a camping store. Cliff was apoplectic.