Universities Ranked By Earnings Data: CS Graduates

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Anonymous wrote:This is useless and misleading.

+1 It only shows those who took out federal loans. Sure, it excludes those who are full pay, but that also excludes some UMC/MC families who sent their kids to cheap in state schools with a 529.

It also doesn't take into account *where* they are working. $150K in Silicon Valley doesn't take you that far. $100K in Philly takes you a lot further.

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science

I used to work in the Bay Area. When I moved to the DC area, and looked at salaries for my level, it was so much lower. Luckily, my Bay Area employer let me keep my Bay Area salary.

+1000 It's useless data, especially if the COL is not taken into account.

My recent grad (not CS major) living in Madison Wi is making the same as their friends living in Chicago. Guess who is do much better financially?

+1 useless list

My Rutger grad niece is making six figures with zero debt. She would not be on the list. But, their friends who took out loans would be on the list, and even though they are making similar amounts, they are struggling because of the loans. My niece is about to purchase her first condo at 26. Their friends are still living at home trying to pay off their debt.

Context matters. This list isn't looking at "debt loads" or "quality of life" or "cost of living". It's simply looking at salary 4 years out of undergrad, that's it! Nothing else. From a straight up simple 'salary' perspective it's useful. There can be a million caveats if you play that game. I happen to know doctors making over a million $s per year who still "struggle" with their finances, doesn't mean 1million+ per year isn't a great income.

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Yale! Is that a typo for Princeton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is useless and misleading.

+1 It only shows those who took out federal loans. Sure, it excludes those who are full pay, but that also excludes some UMC/MC families who sent their kids to cheap in state schools with a 529.

It also doesn't take into account *where* they are working. $150K in Silicon Valley doesn't take you that far. $100K in Philly takes you a lot further.

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science

I used to work in the Bay Area. When I moved to the DC area, and looked at salaries for my level, it was so much lower. Luckily, my Bay Area employer let me keep my Bay Area salary.

+1000 It's useless data, especially if the COL is not taken into account.

My recent grad (not CS major) living in Madison Wi is making the same as their friends living in Chicago. Guess who is do much better financially?

+1 useless list

My Rutger grad niece is making six figures with zero debt. She would not be on the list. But, their friends who took out loans would be on the list, and even though they are making similar amounts, they are struggling because of the loans. My niece is about to purchase her first condo at 26. Their friends are still living at home trying to pay off their debt.

Excuse me, we wokesters prefer "Zer friends". And even though you chose not use the transphobic "Her"as most normal people would, You are still cancelled because you are not puritan enough.

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Anonymous wrote:The people complaining have DCs that went to a school that didn't make the list. This is the most impartial data available on the web.

The most impartial data on the web is found in bios on LinkedIn and on company websites. Look there and you'll see that, for the same position, those with degrees from less selective colleges far outnumber those with degrees from elite colleges. The path to success is paved by the individual, not the college.

Uh LinkedIn bios don't tell you how much someone makes. The salary clearly tells you how much a certain graduate is worth and its those 40 top schools are worth more than the other.

What reason do you have to believe that people doing the exact same job would be making more just because they went to an elite college? Do you really believe Harvard and CalTech grads doing the same work as BC and Northwestern grads are being paid twice as much just because of the college listed on their diploma?

The reason graduates of colleges at the top of the list are making more than those at the bottom of the list is because those at the top get a higher percentage of really smart and ambitious high school students than those at the bottom (or in some cases, because they went to school in a wealthier area and decided to settle down near there), not because the education they're offering is significantly stronger.

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Yale! Is that a typo for Princeton.

No data was reported to DOE for Princeton...no idea why.

Assume they are all unemployed .

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Anonymous wrote:Notice how big and celebrated publics like UT Austin and Georgia Tech didn't make the list.

Right? But Rice and Emory did... it's very telling.

Comparing with UT Austin makes no sense. Remember UT Austin is one of the cheapest Public flagships in the country. A person who goes to UT Austin for CS and can still not afford the university, could be really poor and may have many many extenuating circumstances that keep their salary low. Most of the UT CS students (Largely Asian and White) may not take any loans for their education, so they are largely excluded from the analysis and may be earning quite well.

This would not be the case with private universities where tuition alone runs close to $60K a year

These are Pell grant and students on financial aid so that excuse doesn't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is useless and misleading.

+1 It only shows those who took out federal loans. Sure, it excludes those who are full pay, but that also excludes some UMC/MC families who sent their kids to cheap in state schools with a 529.

It also doesn't take into account *where* they are working. $150K in Silicon Valley doesn't take you that far. $100K in Philly takes you a lot further.

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science

I used to work in the Bay Area. When I moved to the DC area, and looked at salaries for my level, it was so much lower. Luckily, my Bay Area employer let me keep my Bay Area salary.

+1000 It's useless data, especially if the COL is not taken into account.

My recent grad (not CS major) living in Madison Wi is making the same as their friends living in Chicago. Guess who is do much better financially?

+1 useless list

My Rutger grad niece is making six figures with zero debt. She would not be on the list. But, their friends who took out loans would be on the list, and even though they are making similar amounts, they are struggling because of the loans. My niece is about to purchase her first condo at 26. Their friends are still living at home trying to pay off their debt.

Context matters. This list isn't looking at "debt loads" or "quality of life" or "cost of living". It's simply looking at salary 4 years out of undergrad, that's it! Nothing else. From a straight up simple 'salary' perspective it's useful. There can be a million caveats if you play that game. I happen to know doctors making over a million $s per year who still "struggle" with their finances, doesn't mean 1million+ per year isn't a great income.

It's not useful because it only looks at those who took out federal loans. The % of college grads who take out federal loans is less than 50% of all college grads. So, the list is pretty skewed.

$150K salary in Bay Area is nothing. $150K salary in Philly is awesome.

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The list is stupid.

No one thinks a Yale grad in CS is better than an MIT grad in CS. NO ONE, probably not even the Yale CS grad.

Or a SLO grad is better than UMich grad in CS.

The SLO grad probably works in the Bay Area, where it's stupid expensive (I used to live there), and the pay would reflect that. Who knows where the UMich grad is working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is useless and misleading.

+1 It only shows those who took out federal loans. Sure, it excludes those who are full pay, but that also excludes some UMC/MC families who sent their kids to cheap in state schools with a 529.

It also doesn't take into account *where* they are working. $150K in Silicon Valley doesn't take you that far. $100K in Philly takes you a lot further.

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science

I used to work in the Bay Area. When I moved to the DC area, and looked at salaries for my level, it was so much lower. Luckily, my Bay Area employer let me keep my Bay Area salary.

+1000 It's useless data, especially if the COL is not taken into account.

My recent grad (not CS major) living in Madison Wi is making the same as their friends living in Chicago. Guess who is do much better financially?

+1 useless list

My Rutger grad niece is making six figures with zero debt. She would not be on the list. But, their friends who took out loans would be on the list, and even though they are making similar amounts, they are struggling because of the loans. My niece is about to purchase her first condo at 26. Their friends are still living at home trying to pay off their debt.

Context matters. This list isn't looking at "debt loads" or "quality of life" or "cost of living". It's simply looking at salary 4 years out of undergrad, that's it! Nothing else. From a straight up simple 'salary' perspective it's useful. There can be a million caveats if you play that game. I happen to know doctors making over a million $s per year who still "struggle" with their finances, doesn't mean 1million+ per year isn't a great income.

It's not useful because it only looks at those who took out federal loans. The % of college grads who take out federal loans is less than 50% of all college grads. So, the list is pretty skewed.

$150K salary in Bay Area is nothing. $150K salary in Philly is awesome.

So...go to Penn for CS and stay in Philly...and you are living large!

[Anonymous]

UMD didn’t make the cut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is useless and misleading.

+1 It only shows those who took out federal loans. Sure, it excludes those who are full pay, but that also excludes some UMC/MC families who sent their kids to cheap in state schools with a 529.

It also doesn't take into account *where* they are working. $150K in Silicon Valley doesn't take you that far. $100K in Philly takes you a lot further.

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/best-schools-by-majors/computer-science

I used to work in the Bay Area. When I moved to the DC area, and looked at salaries for my level, it was so much lower. Luckily, my Bay Area employer let me keep my Bay Area salary.

+1000 It's useless data, especially if the COL is not taken into account.

My recent grad (not CS major) living in Madison Wi is making the same as their friends living in Chicago. Guess who is do much better financially?

+1 useless list

My Rutger grad niece is making six figures with zero debt. She would not be on the list. But, their friends who took out loans would be on the list, and even though they are making similar amounts, they are struggling because of the loans. My niece is about to purchase her first condo at 26. Their friends are still living at home trying to pay off their debt.

Context matters. This list isn't looking at "debt loads" or "quality of life" or "cost of living". It's simply looking at salary 4 years out of undergrad, that's it! Nothing else. From a straight up simple 'salary' perspective it's useful. There can be a million caveats if you play that game. I happen to know doctors making over a million $s per year who still "struggle" with their finances, doesn't mean 1million+ per year isn't a great income.

It's not useful because it only looks at those who took out federal loans. The % of college grads who take out federal loans is less than 50% of all college grads. So, the list is pretty skewed.

$150K salary in Bay Area is nothing. $150K salary in Philly is awesome.

So...go to Penn for CS and stay in Philly...and you are living large!

I don’t think ANY Penn grads stay in Philly (I live there btw).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notice how big and celebrated publics like UT Austin and Georgia Tech didn't make the list.

Right? But Rice and Emory did... it's very telling.

Comparing with UT Austin makes no sense. Remember UT Austin is one of the cheapest Public flagships in the country. A person who goes to UT Austin for CS and can still not afford the university, could be really poor and may have many many extenuating circumstances that keep their salary low. Most of the UT CS students (Largely Asian and White) may not take any loans for their education, so they are largely excluded from the analysis and may be earning quite well.

This would not be the case with private universities where tuition alone runs close to $60K a year

These are Pell grant and students on financial aid so that excuse doesn't work.

A person who would qualify for Pell grants, probably gets all expenses covered at Harvard. Not so at UT. The SES of the person who is on financial aid at Harvard is totally different from the SES of the person who is on Financial Aid at UT Austin. Think about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMD didn’t make the cut?

Seems there is no reported data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The list is stupid.

No one thinks a Yale grad in CS is better than an MIT grad in CS. NO ONE, probably not even the Yale CS grad.

Or a SLO grad is better than UMich grad in CS.

The SLO grad probably works in the Bay Area, where it's stupid expensive (I used to live there), and the pay would reflect that. Who knows where the UMich grad is working.

No you are stupid. The numbers are the numbers. If you want to go get a PhD in CS then yea MIT may be better. But if you just want to make bank, Yale is better. Get over it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notice how big and celebrated publics like UT Austin and Georgia Tech didn't make the list.

Right? But Rice and Emory did... it's very telling.

Comparing with UT Austin makes no sense. Remember UT Austin is one of the cheapest Public flagships in the country. A person who goes to UT Austin for CS and can still not afford the university, could be really poor and may have many many extenuating circumstances that keep their salary low. Most of the UT CS students (Largely Asian and White) may not take any loans for their education, so they are largely excluded from the analysis and may be earning quite well.

This would not be the case with private universities where tuition alone runs close to $60K a year

These are Pell grant and students on financial aid so that excuse doesn't work.

A person who would qualify for Pell grants, probably gets all expenses covered at Harvard. Not so at UT. The SES of the person who is on financial aid at Harvard is totally different from the SES of the person who is on Financial Aid at UT Austin. Think about this.

UT doesn't make the list at ALL. That means UT grads aren't making at least 130k. No one is comparing it to Harvard, it could never compete.