I think that nearly *all* GoFundMe campaigns are tacky

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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


+1,000
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


FFS. You're surrounded by people who were veery premature everyday. You just can't tell them apart from anyone else.
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


+1,000


Asthma and ADHD? Let them die then.
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


+1,000


Asthma and ADHD? Let them die then.


Strawman.
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Anonymous wrote:The ones for medical expenses are disgusting because we do that instead of insisting on workable universal health care in this country. Those are exhibitions of what is wrong with our health care system.


I came here to say exactly this.
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I think a lot of GoFundMes are weird because it's this weird cross between charity and "start-up funding". Some situations are clearly one or the other:

Charity -- a family has suffered a medical catastrophe and cannot afford their rent, so start a GoFundMe to cover the next few months of rent until they can figure out what to do. This is straightforward and sadly sometimes a person's only option. Even if you don't donate to these, I don't quite understand resenting them, especially if they are clear about how much they need and don't accept funds over that amount.

Start-up funding -- person has a good idea for a toy, made a prototype and created a business plan, and is looking for seed funding. Usually they have concrete business plans or similar, but it's a business that is too small for a bank loan or VC funding, or alternatively might be a non-profit and this is their first foray into fundraising. If you donate, you're guaranteed something in return (a free product once manufactured, or some kind of prize/thank you like a gift card. Again, whether you donate or not, this seems fine and straightforward. I donated to one for a friend of mine who started a theater company and needed seed funding to get it off the ground. I have lifetime backstage "VIP passes" to all their shows. It's fun being part of the ground floor of something like that.

But what happens is people twist situations that don't really fit either of these. So they try to raise money for a family whose house burned down, but it's a middle class family and they are all fine plus are getting insurance money -- they don't actually need charity. Or they are asking for start-up funding but it's extremely vague, like instead of someone with a business plan starting a theater company, it's someone just saying "help fund my first year in LA for auditions to achieve my Hollywood dreams." Uh, no thank you but best of luck -- please just get a job as a cater-waiter or temping or as a barista like everyone else who does this.

I once got asked to donate to a GoFundMe for a well-known writer with a best-selling book who also regularly runs very expensive writing seminars (like way at the far end of expensive for the kind of seminar she's selling), and the explanation was that she has a compulsive spending problem. What? Why would I donate money to someone who is cash strapped to her compulsive spending problem? So she can blow it on 72 pairs of sunglasses? If she was destitute and needed money for a rehab program, that would be different, but this person wanted money to pay her rent because she spent all her money from her writing/teaching jobs on clothes. It's probably the only time I've actually been mad at a GoFundMe.
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


+1,000


Asthma and ADHD? Let them die then.


Strawman.


How so?
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


+1,000


Asthma and ADHD? Let them die then.


Strawman.


How so?


Someone with Autism or ADHD is a future taxpayer.
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


+1,000


Asthma and ADHD? Let them die then.


Strawman.


How so?


Someone with Autism or ADHD is a future taxpayer.


According to the link the PP provided, it's one of the main risks of early prematurity. The PP was arguing that we should let them die because of the risks listed in the link, which included ADHD and asthma. Not a strawman at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


FFS. You're surrounded by people who were veery premature everyday. You just can't tell them apart from anyone else.


Okay well how about the people who want to pay for micro preemies pay into one health insurance pool and those of us who don't can pay into a different health insurance pool. Same for crazy expensive end of life care and cancer treatments that prolong someone's life by a month or two while making them very very sick. I'd like to be in the shared risk pool that DOESN'T pay for those things (and won't cover them for me or my loved ones either.)
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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of GoFundMes are weird because it's this weird cross between charity and "start-up funding". Some situations are clearly one or the other:

Charity -- a family has suffered a medical catastrophe and cannot afford their rent, so start a GoFundMe to cover the next few months of rent until they can figure out what to do. This is straightforward and sadly sometimes a person's only option. Even if you don't donate to these, I don't quite understand resenting them, especially if they are clear about how much they need and don't accept funds over that amount.

Start-up funding -- person has a good idea for a toy, made a prototype and created a business plan, and is looking for seed funding. Usually they have concrete business plans or similar, but it's a business that is too small for a bank loan or VC funding, or alternatively might be a non-profit and this is their first foray into fundraising. If you donate, you're guaranteed something in return (a free product once manufactured, or some kind of prize/thank you like a gift card. Again, whether you donate or not, this seems fine and straightforward. I donated to one for a friend of mine who started a theater company and needed seed funding to get it off the ground. I have lifetime backstage "VIP passes" to all their shows. It's fun being part of the ground floor of something like that.

But what happens is people twist situations that don't really fit either of these. So they try to raise money for a family whose house burned down, but it's a middle class family and they are all fine plus are getting insurance money -- they don't actually need charity. Or they are asking for start-up funding but it's extremely vague, like instead of someone with a business plan starting a theater company, it's someone just saying "help fund my first year in LA for auditions to achieve my Hollywood dreams." Uh, no thank you but best of luck -- please just get a job as a cater-waiter or temping or as a barista like everyone else who does this.

I once got asked to donate to a GoFundMe for a well-known writer with a best-selling book who also regularly runs very expensive writing seminars (like way at the far end of expensive for the kind of seminar she's selling), and the explanation was that she has a compulsive spending problem. What? Why would I donate money to someone who is cash strapped to her compulsive spending problem? So she can blow it on 72 pairs of sunglasses? If she was destitute and needed money for a rehab program, that would be different, but this person wanted money to pay her rent because she spent all her money from her writing/teaching jobs on clothes. It's probably the only time I've actually been mad at a GoFundMe.


Kickstarter is usually where you get a product out of it, not go fund me.

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Anonymous wrote:Having to beg for money from strangers for medical care or burials is the bread and butter of r/ABoringDystopia


The reality is that, even in those perfect Scandinavian countries, no one individual is getting millions of dollars worth of medical care for “free.” They just let people die instead.


Much better to ration health care by the ability to pay


+1. Don't even get me started on million dollar + NICU babies who go on to have a lifetime of medical issues that we (taxpayers) also pay for through Medicaid.


Yeah, who cares about babies anyway? Let the useless eaters die.


Yeah, who cares if they have any quality of life at all as long as we keep them alive to make their parents happy!!!


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia-program


Its not "euthanasia" to NOT spend 7 figures to keep alive a baby that is the size of a human hand alive and will likely go on to experience a whole host of issues. THIS (among other things) is why health insurance is unaffordable in this country. Because we are routinely keeping 750 gram micropreemies alive.

https://www.oviahealth.com/guide/101068/micro-preemie/#:~:text=Micro%20preemies%20also%20face%20the,conditions%20like%20ADD%20and%20ADHD.


FFS. You're surrounded by people who were veery premature everyday. You just can't tell them apart from anyone else.


Okay well how about the people who want to pay for micro preemies pay into one health insurance pool and those of us who don't can pay into a different health insurance pool. Same for crazy expensive end of life care and cancer treatments that prolong someone's life by a month or two while making them very very sick. I'd like to be in the shared risk pool that DOESN'T pay for those things (and won't cover them for me or my loved ones either.)


Be thankful you don't have health issue. It could be you one day. I'm on expensive medications. What should I do, just suffer?
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Anonymous wrote:Remember the small plane crash in Maryland that killed the mom home on maternity leave and 2 of her kids? That GoFund me raised nearly half a million bucks. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/gemmellfamily) But joke's on everyone who donated: the husband was able to sue anyone and everyone associated with that plane and walked away with millions in settlements, in addition to that half million donated from literally thousands of strangers.



Re-read what you just callously wrote. A man lost his wife and two of his kids after a plane crashed in their home.

I didn’t donate, but would not begrudge him the money. And it was years before those settlements.

I swear some of y’all look for misery.
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Anonymous wrote:I think that 100% of them, regardless of the event that occurred, are tacky if the GoFundMe was started by the victim(s)’ family member or BFF. If I see one it better be for a life or death situation, and I don’t want to see any photos or videos attached that are gruesome, or I won’t donate. The “life or death” part generally excludes living expenses for a living, able individual, or costs of replacing inanimate objects.



Not sure about tacky so much as exploitative .

So many are fraudulent and not well Monitored regarding whether the intended recipient receives the money that I don’t give through them.


If they were monitored properly with proof that money donated goes to intended recipients for the causes described then would be OK with it .

But HFM is not adequately regulated or monitored and there is a lot of abuse/ exploitation.
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Anonymous wrote:Funerals are for the living, not the dead. I support funerals when the victim was indigent. In my Appalachian community, it was common to pass an envelope at church so that there could be a decent funeral/burial. Our church members dug the graves (for free). I always donate to these kinds of things in cash.

Almost all other GoFundMes are tacky, except medical expenses for kids. Those are OK.

I love pets, but NO PETS.


That's funny, I'm exactly the opposite. I'll contribute to shelter/ foster/ homeless pet ones, but never children. People can take care of their own children.
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