MoCo Rent Control Bills

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Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

...so lets try something that we have objective evidence is not working in other parts of the world?

We literally have decades and decades of evidence saying rent control does not work. Its not something to "try and hope it works" We know that it will not.

We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl.

Really? Developers would build 12-story apartment buildings on well and septic in Comus, if Montgomery County got rid of the Ag Reserve? How about that.

They built high rises all the way up 29 in east county decades ago, before BRT and before 29 was more limited access. There are high rises near Rio that predate Rio and 370 by decades too. Yes, they would build high density far away from transit and other existing infrastructure. They’ve done it before and will do it again.

(PS—no one is taking about getting rid of the ag reserve. That’s your personal idiotic straw man. I can see why you went there because your facts are too terrible to win a real argument but it’s still dumb.)

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Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

...so lets try something that we have objective evidence is not working in other parts of the world?

We literally have decades and decades of evidence saying rent control does not work. Its not something to "try and hope it works" We know that it will not.

We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl.

Really? Developers would build 12-story apartment buildings on well and septic in Comus, if Montgomery County got rid of the Ag Reserve? How about that.

The many high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg say they would. I’m sure you would find a way to call it compact development and smart growth once someone proposed it.

[Anonymous]

This sounds wonderful

Why can’t Northern VA do this? NOVA offers very little help or financial assistance to renters compared to MD and DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sounds wonderful

Why can’t Northern VA do this? NOVA offers very little help or financial assistance to renters compared to MD and DC

We won’t have affordable housing until we realize what we’ve been doing for the past 10 years doesn’t work.

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Rent control will produce more people getting their own apartments rather than sharing.

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Well, at least if the one with lower limits gets passed we will have far fewer rental properties built in our neighborhoods if they eventually pass the silly ZTA for multi family. With those terms you’d have to be kind of nuts to be a landlord in this area.

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Basic economics... Rent Control = shortage of housing

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Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

Why do you say that? If you are so worried about available housing units, how about supporting a reduction in both legal and illegal immigration? Especially millions of uneducated people who will be unable to afford the COA in our area?

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Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

...so lets try something that we have objective evidence is not working in other parts of the world?

We literally have decades and decades of evidence saying rent control does not work. Its not something to "try and hope it works" We know that it will not.

We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl.

Really? Developers would build 12-story apartment buildings on well and septic in Comus, if Montgomery County got rid of the Ag Reserve? How about that.

The many high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg say they would. I’m sure you would find a way to call it compact development and smart growth once someone proposed it.

The "high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg" are not actually high rises, are not on well and septic, are supposedly transit-oriented (aside from the near-absence of transit), and reflect master planning, not deregulation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

Why do you say that? If you are so worried about available housing units, how about supporting a reduction in both legal and illegal immigration? Especially millions of uneducated people who will be unable to afford the COA in our area?

Weird. Here I am, thinking the answer to "we have more people than housing" is "we need more housing", but here you are, thinking the answer is "we need fewer people".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sounds wonderful

Why can’t Northern VA do this? NOVA offers very little help or financial assistance to renters compared to MD and DC

Speaking as a resident, it's because I don't want poor people living near me funded by taxpayers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

...so lets try something that we have objective evidence is not working in other parts of the world?

We literally have decades and decades of evidence saying rent control does not work. Its not something to "try and hope it works" We know that it will not.

We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl.

Really? Developers would build 12-story apartment buildings on well and septic in Comus, if Montgomery County got rid of the Ag Reserve? How about that.

The many high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg say they would. I’m sure you would find a way to call it compact development and smart growth once someone proposed it.

The "high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg" are not actually high rises, are not on well and septic, are supposedly transit-oriented (aside from the near-absence of transit), and reflect master planning, not deregulation.

Why does it matter what kind of housing it is? Clark’s burg is just as far from jobs and transit as parts of the ag preserve and developers continue to build a lot of housing. Unless of course you have something against high rises.

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Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

...so lets try something that we have objective evidence is not working in other parts of the world?

We literally have decades and decades of evidence saying rent control does not work. Its not something to "try and hope it works" We know that it will not.

We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl.

Really? Developers would build 12-story apartment buildings on well and septic in Comus, if Montgomery County got rid of the Ag Reserve? How about that.

The many high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg say they would. I’m sure you would find a way to call it compact development and smart growth once someone proposed it.

The "high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg" are not actually high rises, are not on well and septic, are supposedly transit-oriented (aside from the near-absence of transit), and reflect master planning, not deregulation.

Why does it matter what kind of housing it is? Clark’s burg is just as far from jobs and transit as parts of the ag preserve and developers continue to build a lot of housing. Unless of course you have something against high rises.

Ask the PP who said "We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl. "

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Swedish economist Assar Lindbeck, a housing expert, said that "rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing".

And yet Sweden has rent control and 90 percent of urbanism is being envious of Sweden.

I read an article last week about 2-300 people all lined up to tour a unit. It is definitely not working there.

And whatever we're doing isn't working here, so...

...so lets try something that we have objective evidence is not working in other parts of the world?

We literally have decades and decades of evidence saying rent control does not work. Its not something to "try and hope it works" We know that it will not.

We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl.

Really? Developers would build 12-story apartment buildings on well and septic in Comus, if Montgomery County got rid of the Ag Reserve? How about that.

The many high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg say they would. I’m sure you would find a way to call it compact development and smart growth once someone proposed it.

The "high rises worth of houses in Clarksburg" are not actually high rises, are not on well and septic, are supposedly transit-oriented (aside from the near-absence of transit), and reflect master planning, not deregulation.

Why does it matter what kind of housing it is? Clark’s burg is just as far from jobs and transit as parts of the ag preserve and developers continue to build a lot of housing. Unless of course you have something against high rises.

Ask the PP who said "We also have decades of experience demonstrating that when we de-regulate land use developers build high-density housing where land is cheapest, not where there’s already transit and other infrastructure. But proclaimed urbanists are more than happy to support that even though we literally know it will cause sprawl. "

You really seem to have a thing against high rises. I suggest you get help. Apartments are homes too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sounds wonderful

Why can’t Northern VA do this? NOVA offers very little help or financial assistance to renters compared to MD and DC

Rent control doesn’t incentivize future construction of apartments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds wonderful

Why can’t Northern VA do this? NOVA offers very little help or financial assistance to renters compared to MD and DC

Rent control doesn’t incentivize future construction of apartments.

In Sweden it incentivized condo and coop conversions.