School advising kids to "try again next year" regarding college applications

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, it's getting hard for even rich people to buy their way into selective colleges. Oh no.

It's not about being rich, it's about not being the correct skin color. Yeah diversity!

Ah the bitter tears of white losers. Love it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think colleges should review dcum postings and reject anyone whose parents have ever used the term “big 3” in case it’s hereditary.

Difficult considering it's Anonymous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that advising kids to matriculate to one of the schools that accepted them is hardly alarming advice, and that, if they are opposed to that then advising them that their other options are to take a gap year or go to a school that accepted them and try to transfer in a year is just speaking truth.

What else would you want them to say to a kid who chose their matches and safeties badly and is now upset at their options? Is there some other option missing?

OP.
The problem (as I hear it) is that what can be considered a safety has shifted. What was a safety even last year is no longer a safety.
The kids in the lower 50% of the class are getting shut out or close to shut out.

I heard the above from Texas but with the opposite outcome. Because they stayed open for full school throughout it Covid and had highly educated parents sub as needed for contact tracing numbers, they did very well with their APs, ECs, and classes the last four years and outperformed for college acceptances versus previous years. These are districts that have tons of test in magnet schools and speciality high schools (engineering, culinary, premed, etc tracks).

Did y’all’s kids write about Covid shutdowns in their essays? That may have been more of a disadvantage than you realize.

And yet the geographic distribution of accepted students won’t change a bit. Nice BS story though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, it's getting hard for even rich people to buy their way into selective colleges. Oh no.

It's not about being rich, it's about not being the correct skin color. Yeah diversity!

Ah the bitter tears of white losers. Love it.

Says the person who would never get in without checking a box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard from my kid that results are so bad this year at our (Big3) school that the college counseling office is now telling kids
to either take a gap year OR matriculate at a lower tier school and "try again next year".

Have you heard this? It is worrisome or typical advice?

If I spent 200k on a high school and that was the outcome, I'd want a refund

Yah, nope. Money is well spent regardless. To each their own.

This. And I'm a public school parent. You're educating a child. Not purchasing a selective college guarantee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh no, it's getting hard for even rich people to buy their way into selective colleges. Oh no.

It's not about being rich, it's about not being the correct skin color. Yeah diversity!

Ah the bitter tears of white losers. Love it.

Says the person who would never get in without checking a box.

Cry some more, loser.

[Anonymous]

This message has certainly not been communicated at my kid’s school. Most decisions haven’t been released.

The only thing I can think of is *maybe* one kid didn’t get into first choice and the CCO was brainstorming ideas on that particular school? Still seems off.

It would be best to not assess the cycle until results are actually out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First of all "Big 3" does not guarantee admission anywhere.

Publics always do better in this area.

Parents need to do their jobs and have their kids target safeties as well.

Public schools do not do better they just have huge classes so the optics may looks better but even that I doubt and we are from a great pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all "Big 3" does not guarantee admission anywhere.

Publics always do better in this area.

Parents need to do their jobs and have their kids target safeties as well.

Nah 40 percent of our big 3 went to top 25 colleges or top 20 liberal arts schools. The remainder went to top 30 liberal arts or top 40 university with the exception of one or two. Public can’t come close to that.

Does no one realize this is a dumb metric considering public covers a much wider range and percentile of abilities, socioeconomics, and even desire to attend college immediately following high school? Further public schools in this area could have a senior class 3x the size of a private school senior class.

If you can’t compare raw numbers or percentages then how can you possibly arrive at the conclusion that public schools always do better than privates?

I didn’t say they do. No would I say private schools always do better than public. The sane and rationale amongst us, know this is a stupid argument as has been borne out by research. Public and Private schools in this area both deliver a quality education and opportunity for college should a student so desire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard from my kid that results are so bad this year at our (Big3) school that the college counseling office is now telling kids
to either take a gap year OR matriculate at a lower tier school and "try again next year".

Have you heard this? It is worrisome or typical advice?

I heard that you are making sh*t up. What schools have released RD decisions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First of all "Big 3" does not guarantee admission anywhere.

Publics always do better in this area.

Parents need to do their jobs and have their kids target safeties as well.

Public’s don’t do better in this area. It’s relative to me. Yeah publics might have more # that for T20 but that’s because they have 600 kids. What public neighborhood school is sending 10% to Ivy and 50%+ to T20 schools?

[Anonymous]

Has been posted before but here is the class of 2021 and class of 2022 GDS acceptance list (based off of pubic Ig posts which for '22 were 90%+ of the class and 2021 were 50% of the class) - so NOT fullsome but pretty close directionally. List includes all college who took 2 or more GDS kids combined between 2021 and 2022. This is matriculations not all acceptances of course.

College Count
University of Michigan 8
Tufts 7
Wash U 7
Brown 6
NYU 6
Duke 5
Cornell 4
Harvard 4
Macalaster 4
Tulane 4
University of Toronto 4
University of Wisconsin 4
Boston College 3
Georgetown 3
UPenn 3
University of Chicago 3
Wesleyan 3
Yale 3
Barnard 2
Bates 2
Boston University 2
Bryn Mawr 2
Carnegie Mellon 2
Colby 2
Colgate 2
Hamilton 2
Middlebury 2
Northeastern 2
Rice 2
UC Davis 2
USC 2
UT Austin 2
University of Colorado - Boulder 2
University of St Andrews 2
Wake Forest 2
Wellesley 2
Williams 2

[Anonymous]

ps. at GDS and Sidwell, CC offices stopped releasing the annual list and now just show last 5 years combined in any public document.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has been posted before but here is the class of 2021 and class of 2022 GDS acceptance list (based off of pubic Ig posts which for '22 were 90%+ of the class and 2021 were 50% of the class) - so NOT fullsome but pretty close directionally. List includes all college who took 2 or more GDS kids combined between 2021 and 2022. This is matriculations not all acceptances of course.

College Count
University of Michigan 8
Tufts 7
Wash U 7
Brown 6
NYU 6
Duke 5
Cornell 4
Harvard 4
Macalaster 4
Tulane 4
University of Toronto 4
University of Wisconsin 4
Boston College 3
Georgetown 3
UPenn 3
University of Chicago 3
Wesleyan 3
Yale 3
Barnard 2
Bates 2
Boston University 2
Bryn Mawr 2
Carnegie Mellon 2
Colby 2
Colgate 2
Hamilton 2
Middlebury 2
Northeastern 2
Rice 2
UC Davis 2
USC 2
UT Austin 2
University of Colorado - Boulder 2
University of St Andrews 2
Wake Forest 2
Wellesley 2
Williams 2

Acceptances or matriculations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard from my kid that results are so bad this year at our (Big3) school that the college counseling office is now telling kids
to either take a gap year OR matriculate at a lower tier school and "try again next year".

Have you heard this? It is worrisome or typical advice?

I heard that you are making sh*t up. What schools have released RD decisions?

Someone keeps making this point, but a lot of kids apply almost entirely EA. There are many schools where is you look at the scattergrams at NCS, plenty of students apply EA and no one applies RD, and they tend to be lower ranked schools that have become more unpredictable. So while I think results will shake out in March to be better than they are now, many kids have heard from a slew of EA schools and may not be waiting on many if any RD schools.