Florida bans AP African-American Studies course from schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

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Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

You sound unhinged. You do realize that new AP courses are always reviewed and tweaked before final approval - right? That goes for all the current AP classes. They all went through this process. Get a clue.
DP

They’re not reviewed by governors of states who presumably have more important things to do.

You really think it’s DeSantis who comes off badly when you suggest that state governments shouldn’t make time to examine how the future of this country, children, are being educated?

He’s a bigot acting in bad faith, pandering to other bigots.

You’re entitled to your conjecture and opinion, but none of us know exactly what Florida is objecting to in the curriculum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

+100

Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

You sound unhinged. You do realize that new AP courses are always reviewed and tweaked before final approval - right? That goes for all the current AP classes. They all went through this process. Get a clue.
DP

They’re not reviewed by governors of states who presumably have more important things to do.

You really think it’s DeSantis who comes off badly when you suggest that state governments shouldn’t make time to examine how the future of this country, children, are being educated?

He’s a bigot acting in bad faith, pandering to other bigots.

You’re entitled to your conjecture and opinion, but none of us know exactly what Florida is objecting to in the curriculum.

“Florida” didn’t object. DeSantis objected as a cynical political pander to the racist GOP base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

+100

Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

You sound unhinged. You do realize that new AP courses are always reviewed and tweaked before final approval - right? That goes for all the current AP classes. They all went through this process. Get a clue.
DP

They’re not reviewed by governors of states who presumably have more important things to do.

You really think it’s DeSantis who comes off badly when you suggest that state governments shouldn’t make time to examine how the future of this country, children, are being educated?

How soon before DeSantis shuts down the African-American Studies programs at the state universities?

https://afam.clas.ufl.edu/
https://coss.fsu.edu/aas/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

+100

Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

DP. This is a brand new pilot class. Reviewing it is not an unreasonable thing to do.

But random dipshits on Internet forums and racist Governors are not the approving authority for AP course curricula. This a legitimate field of study with established college curricula and requirements that can be adapted into an AP course by professionals who know what they are doing.

It’s a good thing then that DeSantis didn’t ban the creation of the course.

He’s trying to be George Wallace.

[Anonymous]

They should take a look at regular AP History as well.
Stanley Kurtz wrote about how they politicized it with leftwing propaganda. He suggested creating an alternative standard curriculum to challenge College Board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

+100

Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

You sound unhinged. You do realize that new AP courses are always reviewed and tweaked before final approval - right? That goes for all the current AP classes. They all went through this process. Get a clue.
DP

They’re not reviewed by governors of states who presumably have more important things to do.

The governor is in charge of the Board of Education, as in most states. He is perfectly within his rights here. Educate yourself.
https://www.fldoe.org/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is full of backwards hillbillies. Nothing intellectual comes out of Florida. If you are smart and want smart kids, you wouldn’t move to Florida in the first place.

Interesting. Florida public schools rank squarely in the middle, rankings-wise. Right under New York, Minnesota, Illinois, and others. And above Colorado, Pennsylvania, Washington - and WELL above Michigan, California, and Oregon. So you were saying?


This is for 2023. Florida is 7th from the bottom of all states 8s what is invested per pupil in public education.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

State
Amount Spent Per Pupil
New York $24,040
District of Columbia $22,759
Connecticut $20,635
New Jersey $20,021
Alaska $17,726
Massachusetts $17,058
New Hampshire $16,893
Pennsylvania $16,395
Wyoming $16,224
Rhode Island $16,121
Illinois $15,741
Delaware $15,639
Hawaii $15,242
Maryland $14,762
Maine $14,145
North Dakota $13,758
Ohio $13,027
Washington $12,995
Minnesota $12,975
California $12,498
Nebraska $12,491
Michigan $12,345
Wisconsin $12,285
Virginia $12,216
Oregon $11,920
Iowa $11,732
Montana $11,680
Kansas $11,653
Louisiana $11,452
West Virginia $11,334
Kentucky $11,110
South Carolina $10,856
Georgia $10,810
Missouri $10,810
Indiana $10,262
Colorado $10,202
Arkansas $10,139
South Dakota $10,073
Alabama $9,696
Texas $9,606
New Mexico $9,582
Tennessee $9,544
Nevada $9,417
North Carolina $9,377
Florida $9,346
Vermont $9,340
Mississippi $8,935
Arizona $8,239
Oklahoma $8,239
Idaho $7,771
Utah $7,628

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

+100

Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

You sound unhinged. You do realize that new AP courses are always reviewed and tweaked before final approval - right? That goes for all the current AP classes. They all went through this process. Get a clue.
DP

They’re not reviewed by governors of states who presumably have more important things to do.

The governor is in charge of the Board of Education, as in most states. He is perfectly within his rights here. Educate yourself.
https://www.fldoe.org/

He's only hurting students by denying them a chance to earn AP credit. Not to mention, imagine how AA students in Florida feel after hearing that their governor believes a course on their history and culture "lacks educational value."

[Anonymous]

I thought we were getting rid of all AP classes in the name of equity. This is an ironic turn if events!

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand how anyone with half a brain can take this party seriously. Armed white supremacists with nazi flags telling people Jews are evil is ok because we need free speech but no one should talk about African American history because…well, we don”t even know why because their is no cogent argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would need to see the exact curriculum to know how to feel about this.

Nowadays, a lot of gender ideology and other white liberal priorities are snuck in using black history as a smokescreen. There’s a lot of forced teaming of blacks with random ideologies we didn’t come up with and people who had nothing to do with our struggle. There’s also a tendency to portray blackness as negative and wholly characterized by suffering at the hands of whites — all under the guise of “sympathizing” with us. It’s insidious.

So, who knows what was bundled with actual black history in this AP African American history course.

+100

Do you feel it’s your personal duty to review copies of all AP curricula or just this one? Who knows what was snuck in to any of the non-STEM AP class curricula. Why not start with your own child or children’s curricula and work your way up to national-level curricula? Be sure to post a copy of your critiques.

You sound unhinged. You do realize that new AP courses are always reviewed and tweaked before final approval - right? That goes for all the current AP classes. They all went through this process. Get a clue.
DP

They’re not reviewed by governors of states who presumably have more important things to do.

You really think it’s DeSantis who comes off badly when you suggest that state governments shouldn’t make time to examine how the future of this country, children, are being educated?

He’s a bigot acting in bad faith, pandering to other bigots.

You’re entitled to your conjecture and opinion, but none of us know exactly what Florida is objecting to in the curriculum.

“Florida” didn’t object. DeSantis objected as a cynical political pander to the racist GOP base.

+1 such transparent virtue signaling by the KKK brigade. The “asleep,” if you will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how anyone with half a brain can take this party seriously. Armed white supremacists with nazi flags telling people Jews are evil is ok because we need free speech but no one should talk about African American history because…well, we don”t even know why because their is no cogent argument.

They sure tart it up with a lot of words. They’re all a bunch of slow witted racists, referring to the “debunked” 1619 project, only none of them can articulate, past posting a few links, what they think is wrong with it. They don’t know anything about AA history but they’re sure it’s wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not even dog whistlin’ Dixie anymore

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/desantis-florida-ap-african-american-studies.amp.html


Those cultural marxists at the College Board!

"National outrage ensued after the state rejected an AP African American Studies course, but a copy of the syllabus obtained by The Florida Standard shows the course sought to teach progressive doctrines such as intersectionality and Critical Race Theory.

Section 4 of the syllabus introduces the topic “Postracial Racism and Colorblindness” and features texts from Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, who employs Critical Race Theory in his writings...describes how “Whites talk, think, and account for the existence of racial inequality and makes clear that color-blind racism is as insidious now as ever.” ... Section 4 also includes “Black Queer Studies.” A description states: “This topic explores the concept of queer color critique, grounded in Black feminism and intersectionality, as a Black studies lens that shifts sexuality studies towards racial analysis.”

https://www.theflstandard.com/exclusive-rejected-a...sectionality-and-queer-theory/


Go on crazies, keep on defending this crazy course and attacking Florida for daring say it didn't meet quality standards

The Florida Standard is your source and you're calling other people crazy? Wow.

[Anonymous]

So how is this intended to work?

Students can use this class to satisfy some college diversity requirement? Are colleges on board with this?

Create a two track African-American Studies environment? There is major "yikes" potential for the optics here.

Replace existing African-American Studies courses? What happens to the students who can't handle an AP workload? Major "yikes" potential again.

Other than the CB, who benefits from this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should take a look at regular AP History as well.
Stanley Kurtz wrote about how they politicized it with leftwing propaganda. He suggested creating an alternative standard curriculum to challenge College Board.

AP Classes are supposed to be college level classes. What do you think your average college history class is gonna be like?