DC Council Overrides Bowser Veto of Revised Criminal Code

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just can’t overstate how disappointed many in Ward 3 are with Matt Frumin. His first vote of any consequence and he falls right in line with the other crime apologists. We desperately need him to be the adult in the room. He has a lifetime of experience and has raised a family. He will never be mayor, he just needs to be courageous. It was breathtaking watching Mary Cheh speak out against crime last winter and need for stronger prosecution. Little did we know was that she intended to retire and which is why she was finally free to speak the truth.

His core supporters were left wing activists. They knew who he was, which is why they supported him. He didn’t run as a continuation of Cheh, who is plenty liberal, he ran as someone to the left of Cheh. I am surprised that you think he would be anything different.

Cheh herself moved over time. We'll see about Frumin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just can’t overstate how disappointed many in Ward 3 are with Matt Frumin. His first vote of any consequence and he falls right in line with the other crime apologists. We desperately need him to be the adult in the room. He has a lifetime of experience and has raised a family. He will never be mayor, he just needs to be courageous. It was breathtaking watching Mary Cheh speak out against crime last winter and need for stronger prosecution. Little did we know was that she intended to retire and which is why she was finally free to speak the truth.

His core supporters were left wing activists. They knew who he was, which is why they supported him. He didn’t run as a continuation of Cheh, who is plenty liberal, he ran as someone to the left of Cheh. I am surprised that you think he would be anything different.

Cheh herself moved over time. We'll see about Frumin.

But she moved left. You’re hoping for Frumin to move right. I cannot see that happening if/unless he overreaches and receives major blowback. But his core activist supporters would support the overreach. So there is not a lot that could pull him right unless his neighbors in AU Park turn against him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just can’t overstate how disappointed many in Ward 3 are with Matt Frumin. His first vote of any consequence and he falls right in line with the other crime apologists. We desperately need him to be the adult in the room. He has a lifetime of experience and has raised a family. He will never be mayor, he just needs to be courageous. It was breathtaking watching Mary Cheh speak out against crime last winter and need for stronger prosecution. Little did we know was that she intended to retire and which is why she was finally free to speak the truth.

His core supporters were left wing activists. They knew who he was, which is why they supported him. He didn’t run as a continuation of Cheh, who is plenty liberal, he ran as someone to the left of Cheh. I am surprised that you think he would be anything different.

Cheh herself moved over time. We'll see about Frumin.

But she moved left. You’re hoping for Frumin to move right. I cannot see that happening if/unless he overreaches and receives major blowback. But his core activist supporters would support the overreach. So there is not a lot that could pull him right unless his neighbors in AU Park turn against him.

After the past few weeks I do not have a lot of hope for him. Between the vote and the ridiculous picture of him on his E-Bike it’s almost like he is having a midlife crisis. He’s getting the attention of all the hipster 20 something ANC commissioners. It’s like he’s finally the cool kid but we need him to excessive some independence and maturity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just can’t overstate how disappointed many in Ward 3 are with Matt Frumin. His first vote of any consequence and he falls right in line with the other crime apologists. We desperately need him to be the adult in the room. He has a lifetime of experience and has raised a family. He will never be mayor, he just needs to be courageous. It was breathtaking watching Mary Cheh speak out against crime last winter and need for stronger prosecution. Little did we know was that she intended to retire and which is why she was finally free to speak the truth.

His core supporters were left wing activists. They knew who he was, which is why they supported him. He didn’t run as a continuation of Cheh, who is plenty liberal, he ran as someone to the left of Cheh. I am surprised that you think he would be anything different.

Cheh herself moved over time. We'll see about Frumin.

But she moved left. You’re hoping for Frumin to move right. I cannot see that happening if/unless he overreaches and receives major blowback. But his core activist supporters would support the overreach. So there is not a lot that could pull him right unless his neighbors in AU Park turn against him.

After the past few weeks I do not have a lot of hope for him. Between the vote and the ridiculous picture of him on his E-Bike it’s almost like he is having a midlife crisis. He’s getting the attention of all the hipster 20 something ANC commissioners. It’s like he’s finally the cool kid but we need him to excessive some independence and maturity.

Desperately seeking the approval of 20 somethings is not becoming for someone who is already eligible for Social Security benefits.

However, these were his core supporters and he is signaling that he is one of them and will pay them back in spades. The only hope is probably that Twitter goes bankrupt so that these attention seekers lose their platform to spread their bad ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:Carjacking has already been effectively decriminalized in DC so I don’t see how this law makes a difference. Might as well just make it a civil penalty at this point, like a parking ticket.

In the first 19 days of 2023, there has been 21 carjackings with 2/3 involving guns. There has been only one arrest who was a juvenile offender and contrary to public perception, a DC resident.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/carjacking

There have been over 500 carjackings from January 1, 2022 to present. The most common place that carjackings occur is in 6th District (Wards 7/8), followed by the 1st District (Ward 6). The most common age of a carjacking arrestee is 16 years old.

Do they actually know what the common thread to these carjackings is? Are there crime rings recruiting kids to bring them cars to sell or chop? If so then why aren't we hearing about MPD going after the crime rings, to eliminate the demand? Or is it criminal crews stealing cars to use in driveby shootings or other crimes? If so then why aren't we hearing about a crackdown on criminal gangs? Is it bored kids doing carjackings for joyrides? If so then why aren't we hearing about MPD going around to schools to talk to kids about it? And, why aren't we hearing about MPD using their license plate scanners and cameras to help locate stolen cars - or any other vehicular enforcement, for that matter?

The common thread is there are no consequences for juvenile crime, and everyone - the juveniles, police, OAG, judges, and Council know it. The system is working precisely as designed and intended.

Police chasing stolen vehicles? Doing stops? Going into schools?

Tell me you’re not from here without telling me you’re not from here.

+1. The highest priority of DC government is reducing incarceration and not harming the life prospects of youth offenders. Public safety and the harms done to crime victims is a much lower priority to the extent it is even a concern at all. Not going to change anytime soon if ever.

It would make a lot more sense to put that investment into stopping these kids long before they head down the path of becoming youth offenders. But DCPS is a complete mess and the millions spent on services seem to be missing the mark, likely more of a jobs program than something to actually help at-risk kids.

I can understand trying to give kids chances and presume that the main goal is to keep them away from prison, because that is where kids that are just somewhat astray learn to be hardened criminals. But letting them wantonly commit crimes without consequences doesn’t seem to be a good way of helping them to succeed in life. How many people go from carjacking with a gun at 16 to a BA with strong career prospects at 22? Not to mention how impossible it is to accomplish that being saddled with a DCPS education and access to community college an hour or more away in upper NW on a journey that will require a bus and then two Metro lines? Not to get side-tracked, but one really dumb thing DC did was not take St. Elizabeth’s for the UDC campus when it was offered to them. What is needed is early and strong intervention in these kids lives, not arrest, release and drop charges. This may be politically incorrect, but a lot of the problems start with learned behavior at home and I would like DC to experiment with creating a state-funded boarding school. Take all of the high academic achievers at 7th grade with the best prospects, get them out of this environment and help them learn new behaviors, communication and emotional skills to succeed, as well as providing a strong education. It certainly couldn’t cost appreciably more than what they are currently spending per pupil for such awful results.

Yep and by the time a 16 year old is casually doing carjackings at gunpoint it's not his first rodeo, that kid has likely already committed quite a few crimes prior.

[Anonymous]

Chief Contee sounds off on how DC youth culture is damaged.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-police-chief-gets-passionate-crime-meeting-something-going-on-culture-oung-people?intcmp=tw_fnc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chief Contee sounds off on how DC youth culture is damaged.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-police-chief-gets-passionate-crime-meeting-something-going-on-culture-oung-people?intcmp=tw_fnc

These kids are crying out for more protected bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chief Contee sounds off on how DC youth culture is damaged.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-police-chief-gets-passionate-crime-meeting-something-going-on-culture-oung-people?intcmp=tw_fnc

They have no consequences for behavior in school, outside school, many have no adults at home to guide them, etc.