Emory? Lol. Duke and UPenn had the same ED acceptance rate this year (15%). Columbia just trended in the wrong direction (probably due to their admissions reporting scandal). Dartmouth accepted ~19% this year. Of course you can’t compare the early rates at Harvard and Yale because those are not binding. As an Ivy grad, Duke is absolutely our peer for undergrad, and it’s more selective than several of them. I wouldn’t really consider Emory a peer at all. Vanderbilt and Rice are great but I believe Duke stands above both quite comfortably |
+1 Duke wins the majority of cross-admits from half the ivies… everyone knows it’s extremely elite. That said their basketball sucks and I will never change my mind about that |
Of course you can compare the early rates at Harvard and Yale, that’s a ridiculous rationalization. MIT, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal tech and Princeton are the top tier. Duke is with the lower Ivies, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Chicago. I think Rice is in this second tier as well. 5 year old, self reported cross admit victories are pretty meaningless. |
“Lower ivies” Vanderbilt and Hopkins are great but they’re not quite there. Maybe Chicago is
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FWIW
One source reports Duke overlaps as: Cornell, Northwestern, Princeton, UNC, & U Penn. Another source lists: 5 Ivies (excluding H,Y, & P), Chicago, Vanderbilt, & Stanford. |
Just your weekly reminder than Hopkins passed Duke in the US News rankings this year. Also ranked higher than Duke in the Times global rankings. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2023/world-ranking |
Why do you care, I’m assuming you’re a Hopkins alum? I think Hopkins is a great school but I’m pretty sure they lose like 80% of their cross-admits to Duke. Again both schools are great but we’ve seen how US News gets manipulated, it’s better to see how people vote with their feet and $$$ cause that’s what gets people through the door. Hopkins had a good ED year though, 2700 applicants for a 20% ED rate. Duke’s was 15% but I don’t think a difference like that matters too much |
My DS likes JHU a lot but it’s kind of disingenuous to go the rankings route as your only point. If you look at 9/10 undergraduate rankings Duke is much higher than JHU. Once JHU falls behind Duke again in US News (US News keeps shifting things for views and clicks) your statement won’t hold unfortunately. Also Times Higher Education has an undergrad ranking which is the relevant one here: Duke is #5 and ahead of JHU. I tend to not like that one because my alma mater does worse on it than US News though
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Why don't you Hopkins and Duke supporters just get yer lacrosse sticks and rumble in the parking lot?
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“We’re #6!” “No, we are!”
A fight for the ages. |
Poor Duke and Hopkins, they lose to the Ivies in both lacrosse and school rankings.
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Emorys ED rate is 29%. So yea Duke is closer to Emory than it is Harvard. |
| Did more people apply? |
Exactly. Maybe they marketed heavily to get more application fees from unqualified students. $$$$ |
I didn’t say that Hopkins was better than Duke just that they are in the same tier. The Paragon data is both dated and not reliable because it is self reported. Garbage in, garbage out. |