Most regretted majors and least regretted majors

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that criminology is one of the least regretted majors and sociology is one of the most regretted. Almost all of the criminology classes are sociology classes. A criminal justice degree is a waste of 150k because you don't need need the degree to get a job as a police officer. Furthermore, college doesn't give you any of the skills it takes to do the job, so big waste of time/energy/money.

No education is a waste. The belief that college is a trade school is a relic of lower and lower middle class origins of our immigrant forebears.

Sorry that made more sense when you didn’t graduate with 5-6 figure student debt and housing was affordable without a college degreed professional job.

Sorry. You want trade school go to Lincoln Tech. It is possible to go to a decent college and get a real education that changes everything for you without 5-6 figure student debt.

That depends a lot on your individual situation. Is college going to cost you 200k or 50k? You can call it trade school if you want, but if you aren't learning any skills relevant to your job, I'm not so sure it's a good deal. It's an antiquated and elitist view to think that taking a bunch of gen ed classes will make you a good citizen and a well rounded person.

Indeed and ironically this shows a lack of the critical thinking skills that all the liberal arts worshipers claim they got with muh liberal arts degree.

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I have always found that the best critical thinkers and employees (and the hardest workers) tend to be Physics/Computer Science/Applied Math/Statistics majors. Engineering comes at a close second. Natural sciences at a third.

The vast, vast majority of the humanities majors I see have an awful work ethic and little to no ability to think critically. I am always amused when DCUMers post that their Philosophy degree taught them to "think critically in a way that you can't with STEM."

My experience as well.

As a CS major and person with 25 years working in software development, this is emphatically not my experience. What I do see A LOT are entitled white guys who are sure that problems they know nothing about must be easy to solve. Rather the opposite of critical thinking to be honest.

DP.. I've worked with programmers for 20 years, and the issue with those guys is that they are arrogant, not that they can't think critically. They think they are so smart that they can understand any business problem easily. I once had to explain to very smart software programmers about the complexity of US tax laws. They just thought they could do a zip code/rate data dump and build an API in like two weeks to calculate sales tax. I had to explain to them that it's not as easy as that, and that's why we have tax solution software out there to manage taxability.

So they're so smart, they're actually dumb. Nice argument.

Presumably, you are smart in your field, but not smart in every field, right? You probably don't understand the complexities in tax laws either, and that's ok. You're not an expert in taxes, and neither are the programmers.

I'm no expert, either, but I just happen to have worked on tax software for many years.

right - and i actually realize that I don't know anything about software. Isn't part of being smart that you know what you don't know?

IMO, that's arrogance (which is what I stated). Those guys are smart. They work for FAANG. But, "smart" in one field doesn't mean "smart" broadly. That was my point. Smart + arrogance = problem.

As to critical thinking skills, the whole point of higher ed is about teaching more advanced critical thinking skills. The vast majority of any major will teach that skill, so all these "history majors learn critical thinking skills" post is ridiculous. BTW, I love history; I think it's fascinating, but I would never major in it unless I was going to go into policy or something like that, or get a masters. Otherwise, IMO, it is a pointless degree.

while you want to characterize it as arrogance, it can be equally described as a lack of critical thinking.

Not really. I know really smart people who are dumb when it comes to technical things, and really smart technical people kind of dumb when it comes to common sense things.

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While education degree is on the list, the worst offendor IMO is a comms degree. At least with an education degree you can go into teaching, even as a lot of teachers want to leave the profession.

A comms degree is a fluff degree like Art History major. A comms degree is probably the easiest degree, and it's what you major in when you are not very smart and don't want to work hard in college.

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I majored in Music. It’s a very tough degree, and in my experience employers understand that. Even if you leave the arts, it’s not a hindrance on your resume.

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Anonymous wrote:While education degree is on the list, the worst offendor IMO is a comms degree. At least with an education degree you can go into teaching, even as a lot of teachers want to leave the profession.

A comms degree is a fluff degree like Art History major. A comms degree is probably the easiest degree, and it's what you major in when you are not very smart and don't want to work hard in college.

LOL No it's not. There is so much one can do with a communication degree.

Communication is broad and has helped me so much.

Have you seen how much communication executives make?

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Anonymous wrote:While education degree is on the list, the worst offendor IMO is a comms degree. At least with an education degree you can go into teaching, even as a lot of teachers want to leave the profession.

A comms degree is a fluff degree like Art History major. A comms degree is probably the easiest degree, and it's what you major in when you are not very smart and don't want to work hard in college.

LOL No it's not. There is so much one can do with a communication degree.

Communication is broad and has helped me so much.

Have you seen how much communication executives make?

Comms major is a joke. It is one of the easiest fluff majors out there.

What do you do with a comms major that you can't do with any major and a class in speech communications?

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Anonymous wrote:While education degree is on the list, the worst offendor IMO is a comms degree. At least with an education degree you can go into teaching, even as a lot of teachers want to leave the profession.

A comms degree is a fluff degree like Art History major. A comms degree is probably the easiest degree, and it's what you major in when you are not very smart and don't want to work hard in college.

LOL No it's not. There is so much one can do with a communication degree.

Communication is broad and has helped me so much.

Have you seen how much communication executives make?

have you seen how much an accounting major makes, and not even at a director level? I mean.. how many comms majors make it to director/executive level?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that criminology is one of the least regretted majors and sociology is one of the most regretted. Almost all of the criminology classes are sociology classes. A criminal justice degree is a waste of 150k because you don't need need the degree to get a job as a police officer. Furthermore, college doesn't give you any of the skills it takes to do the job, so big waste of time/energy/money.

Cops usually don’t go to college. Criminology is for pre law or national security futures.

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Anonymous wrote:I majored in Music. It’s a very tough degree, and in my experience employers understand that. Even if you leave the arts, it’s not a hindrance on your resume.

BINGO. DD is an accomplished singer. Yes, as in opera but she prefers musical theater. She has done it all and wants to major in it in college. It gives me a heart attack but then I don't want to force her to do something she hates. That won't get us anywhere either.

We have been instructing her to combine her passion for music with something else...teaching, marketing, business, even speech pathology. There is a need for speech pathologists who can work with singers.. did you know that?

I am just really glad someone wrote that music isn't a loser degree. It is hard. Her AP music theory class isn't easy and not many kids are doing well. But, she loves it and is doing well.

Thank you Thank you!!!

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Anonymous wrote:If they did this for graduate degrees, I bet law would be at the top.

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+1. And as stated above, the fact that HR manager are starting at $80k and most lawyers have been stuck at $60-65k when you don’t count big law, makes me think it needs to be knocked back down to an undergraduate major.

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Sociology, cultural studies, gender studies, political science are some of the worst majors out there. Public universities should scrap these majors - what is the point of funding a major that consists of constant activist struggle sessions?

Communications is obviously a major meant for athletes and those who can't do any other major.

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Anonymous wrote:Sociology, cultural studies, gender studies, political science are some of the worst majors out there. Public universities should scrap these majors - what is the point of funding a major that consists of constant activist struggle sessions?

Communications is obviously a major meant for athletes and those who can't do any other major.

These are SLDC and those who can't handle real majors

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Anonymous wrote:Sociology, cultural studies, gender studies, political science are some of the worst majors out there. Public universities should scrap these majors - what is the point of funding a major that consists of constant activist struggle sessions?

Communications is obviously a major meant for athletes and those who can't do any other major.

I have a Poli Sci undergrad and a gender studies/policy graduate degree. I think they were incredibly useful, and weirdly my graduate degree might be more helpful. I currently run a consulting agency and both have helped me be a very strategic thinker, able to explore outside viewpoints, and generally understand the world around me. They are both super versatile as well. If my kids were interested, I wouldn't have an issue with these as majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Sociology, cultural studies, gender studies, political science are some of the worst majors out there. Public universities should scrap these majors - what is the point of funding a major that consists of constant activist struggle sessions?

Communications is obviously a major meant for athletes and those who can't do any other major.

I have a Poli Sci undergrad and a gender studies/policy graduate degree. I think they were incredibly useful, and weirdly my graduate degree might be more helpful. I currently run a consulting agency and both have helped me be a very strategic thinker, able to explore outside viewpoints, and generally understand the world around me. They are both super versatile as well. If my kids were interested, I wouldn't have an issue with these as majors.

You are out of your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Sociology, cultural studies, gender studies, political science are some of the worst majors out there. Public universities should scrap these majors - what is the point of funding a major that consists of constant activist struggle sessions?

Communications is obviously a major meant for athletes and those who can't do any other major.

These are SLDC and those who can't handle real majors

? what is SLDC?

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Anonymous wrote:Sociology, cultural studies, gender studies, political science are some of the worst majors out there. Public universities should scrap these majors - what is the point of funding a major that consists of constant activist struggle sessions?

Communications is obviously a major meant for athletes and those who can't do any other major.

I have a Poli Sci undergrad and a gender studies/policy graduate degree. I think they were incredibly useful, and weirdly my graduate degree might be more helpful. I currently run a consulting agency and both have helped me be a very strategic thinker, able to explore outside viewpoints, and generally understand the world around me. They are both super versatile as well. If my kids were interested, I wouldn't have an issue with these as majors.

with that type of undergrad degree you definitely will need a graduate degree. An undergrad degree in those areas is pointless.