Why are parents allowed to opt out of sex ed?

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.




I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.


You are making a big assumption that those of us who don't want you (or people like you) teaching our kids about sex fail to teach them about sex. Kids who don't know all of the various ways to perform genital penetration or all of the latest slang words will probably be just fine. Knowing where babies come from and warnings about STDs, yes, these are important (but not in elementary school).


Wrong. Elementary school goes to 5th or 6th grade. Ages 10-12 in red states a 10-year-old can get pregnant and have to carry a baby to term I would say that right there is the best reason to teach sex ed in elementary school.


Agree. If the government says my kid is old enough to be forced to have a baby, my kid is old enough to hear the word penis from her teacher.
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How is anal sex discussed now?
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Anonymous wrote:The government should decide what’s best for children.


The current trend is the opposite. To listen to unqualified parents instead of experts. I think this is the train Youngkin rode in on even.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand. We don’t allow parents to opt out of reading and math.


They only THINK they are opting out. The kids still hear about sex, of all types, forms, and ways to do it, in school. I always get a chuckle when I meet someone who "opts out" of FLE.


Yes you can opt your child out of any subject. They can be homeschooled on any subject.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it
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Anonymous wrote:had kids opt out of dissection, gym class, gym showers, recess, creation, evolution, anatomy, computer usage, library, and sex Ed among other things.


Wait, what?


You never read about the scopes monkey trial ior read inherit the wind n school ?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand. We don’t allow parents to opt out of reading and math.


Some religions object to early sex education.

But that begs the question:

- why are parents allowed to decide their child’s religion, and raise them in that faith?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


This is not being taught during Family Life Education in public schools. You.Are.Lying.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


This is not being taught during Family Life Education in public schools. You.Are.Lying.


nj1015.com/your-8th-grader-will-now-be-taught-anal-sex-in-health-class-opinion/

You might always want to review the materials before you send your child. Oral and anal are discussed/defined in fairfax health as well
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


This is not being taught during Family Life Education in public schools. You.Are.Lying.


nj1015.com/your-8th-grader-will-now-be-taught-anal-sex-in-health-class-opinion/

You might always want to review the materials before you send your child. Oral and anal are discussed/defined in fairfax health as well


NP. Here is the FFX plan:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf


Looks like, from pages 9-11 (maybe others) they are discussing the specific behaviors and their effect on transmission of STDs, including AIDS.

While AIDS can be transmitted through blood transfusions, heterosexual PIV sex, etc, the highest probability it still from anal sexual penetration by a person infected with HIV.

They are teaching that in FFX schools.
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All Catholics are opposed to birth control (except natural rhythm family planning) and also oppose all abortion.

Why should they be forced to learn in school that these things are OK ?
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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.


The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.


That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.


Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?


But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old


Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.



That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it


What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours


Look, I've been very proactive in speaking to my 12yo DS about sex. He understand the mechanics of it, and he understands how his body his changing. We have talks often about how to speak and treat his female peers with his respect.

He doesn't need to learn about two men having anal sex for pleasure from his burly old man gym teacher.

And based off the questions that he comes to me with, I'm quite sure that none of his friends are discussing anal sex.

It is possible to keep your kids exposed to age appropriate materials. Not all of us have thrown our hands up in defeat and accepted the fact that we can't limit what they know until they are ready to hear it


This is not being taught during Family Life Education in public schools. You.Are.Lying.


nj1015.com/your-8th-grader-will-now-be-taught-anal-sex-in-health-class-opinion/

You might always want to review the materials before you send your child. Oral and anal are discussed/defined in fairfax health as well


NP. Here is the FFX plan:

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf


Looks like, from pages 9-11 (maybe others) they are discussing the specific behaviors and their effect on transmission of STDs, including AIDS.

While AIDS can be transmitted through blood transfusions, heterosexual PIV sex, etc, the highest probability it still from anal sexual penetration by a person infected with HIV.

They are teaching that in FFX schools.


They are teaching that in HS.

Because that is appropriate sex education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:had kids opt out of dissection, gym class, gym showers, recess, creation, evolution, anatomy, computer usage, library, and sex Ed among other things.


Wait, what?


You never read about the scopes monkey trial ior read inherit the wind n school ?


Learning that there are nutter creationists in the world isn’t the same as teaching creationism.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand. We don’t allow parents to opt out of reading and math.


Some religions object to early sex education.

But that begs the question:

- why are parents allowed to decide their child’s religion, and raise them in that faith?


Or with their dietary rules?

I know kids who never tasted a Dorito until they were 7. Kinda sad really.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How is anal sex discussed now?


It's discussed in the back half of the class.
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