Why are parents allowed to opt out of sex ed?

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Anonymous wrote:Opting out is preferable to having a small number of very focused parents working to have things completely removed from the curriculum for all of the students.

Do you agree that there is the “captive audience” argument to be made?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand. We don’t allow parents to opt out of reading and math.

Some concessions must be made (or pretended at) or government school will lose more Muslims, conservatives and people who accept biological facts (first two groups belong to this category) to homeschool and private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:4th grade sex Ed is basically anatomy plus information about periods.

Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.

I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.

You are making a big assumption that those of us who don't want you (or people like you) teaching our kids about sex fail to teach them about sex. Kids who don't know all of the various ways to perform genital penetration or all of the latest slang words will probably be just fine. Knowing where babies come from and warnings about STDs, yes, these are important (but not in elementary school).

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

They will just get all the info from the other kids during recess.

Yeah the idea that kids can remain pure and innocent by missing one sex ed lesson is naive at best

[Anonymous]

Parents don't even have to send their kids to public school if they don't want to.

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.

I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.

You are making a big assumption that those of us who don't want you (or people like you) teaching our kids about sex fail to teach them about sex. Kids who don't know all of the various ways to perform genital penetration or all of the latest slang words will probably be just fine. Knowing where babies come from and warnings about STDs, yes, these are important (but not in elementary school).

You think any of that happens in elementary school?

What specifically is in the ES curriculum that you don’t want taught to your kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand. We don’t allow parents to opt out of reading and math.

They only THINK they are opting out. The kids still hear about sex, of all types, forms, and ways to do it, in school. I always get a chuckle when I meet someone who "opts out" of FLE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't want my 4th grader know how to perform intercourse inpublic.

In fourth grade, at a high performing school in a "nice area", my DD was asked whether she gave blow jobs. And a boy simulated one with his Gogurt.
So . . . it's adorable that you think that they aren't hearing this stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.

I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.

You are making a big assumption that those of us who don't want you (or people like you) teaching our kids about sex fail to teach them about sex. Kids who don't know all of the various ways to perform genital penetration or all of the latest slang words will probably be just fine. Knowing where babies come from and warnings about STDs, yes, these are important (but not in elementary school).

Wrong. Elementary school goes to 5th or 6th grade. Ages 10-12 in red states a 10-year-old can get pregnant and have to carry a baby to term I would say that right there is the best reason to teach sex ed in elementary school.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous. They're just setting their kids up for failure.

I'm reading a book written for adults of childhood dysfunction. An example of a boundary dysfunctional parents abuse is not teaching kids about sex. Keeping important information from them is abusive.

I work in criminal justice and there are multiple studies that children who learn about sex and proper terms early on are less likely to be victims of abuse than children who are not informed.

Parents who opt out of this are doing their children a disservice.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids shouldn't be getting their sex education primarily from schools. I get that some parents are OK with outsourcing this, but for the others, they should have the right to opt out.

The type of people who opt out just tell their kids "sex is bad" and leave it at that.

IMO the way some of these religious nuts approach sex Ed (teaching kids crazy stuff like using tampons is bad) or not giving your kid sufficient info borders on abusive.

That's a very dumb assumption. I will opt out of sex ed, but I'm not teaching my kids any of the stuff you outlined. We'll opt out because it's part of an ongoing discussion on their bodies, boundaries, and health that's been going on since they were babies. We're they're resource for this info and if they have questions, we want them to come to us.

Are you threatened by schools teaching the same info as at home?

But its not the same info.

MS sex ed has information on anal sex

Totally unnecessary for a 12 year old

Again, your 12 yo is likely hearing about this from their peers, probably discussed in an overexcited and misinformed fashion. They might benefit from hearing it discussed calmly and sanely by an adult, so the info can be processed. And all this comes with emphasis on boundaries, autonomy, and safety.

That's a pretty big assumption to make. I actually don't think they are talking about it.

And even if there is one kid that talks about it, that doesn't mean its ok to formalize it into the curriculum. That doesnt mean they are emotionally ready to hear a teacher discuss it

What? 12 year olds aren't emotionally ready to hear about sex? Are you the same parent who isn't giving her child a phone until high school and walks her kid to school daily?

Let me tell you, your 12 year old is hearing about sex. May even get her (ZOMG) period. Hopefully you are having these discussions. If not - my kid is FOR SURE telling yours