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Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

91/96 seniors got their IB diploma. That info is part of the parent presentation on their website. Not sure why you wouldn’t believe it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

95% of what student body? Kids who tried for IB diploma or the entire seniors in IB program? If you have 100 kids but only 20 tried for the diploma program and 19 passed (95%), that's a completely different story than 100 kids trying and 95kids passing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

95% of what student body? Kids who tried for IB diploma or the entire seniors in IB program? If you have 100 kids but only 20 tried for the diploma program and 19 passed (95%), that's a completely different story than 100 kids trying and 95kids passing.

I don’t know what you are trying to say— kids at BCC opt in to the full DP if they want. Of those kids 95% of the 2021 seniors got their diploma.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

What the heck?

The inflation is insane in MCPS

Pass/not pass is not determined by MCPS. It's done by IB org outside of US.

Damn you!, Poe's Law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

91/96 seniors got their IB diploma. That info is part of the parent presentation on their website. Not sure why you wouldn’t believe it.

that's a very tiny minority of students.

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Anonymous wrote:It depends where they do it. BCC - total waste of time, RMIB used to be prestigious but has gone down the tubes.

Lycee Rochambeau - probably your best bet

Oh, hey! More private school recruiting!

Well my own kids go to Whitman, that's just my opinion on the IB opportunities locally.

So you really have no basis for the statement.

Yes actually I do. I did the IB in England and know what is missing from the programs here that I mentioned and the one that I believe is good. I investigated them thoroughly for our kids only a couple of years ago.

Is my interview over now, sir?

Not the original interrogator, but I’m still not sure what you think the differences are? Aren’t all IB students following the same curriculum and passing the same exams based on the same criteria? If they pass the exams, wouldn’t that demonstrate they’d learned the material to the same high standards? I get that the instructors may vary, but if they’re prepared for the exams, what does it matter where or how they learned the material? I mean, that’s kind of the point of standardized exams.

Sure. Now compare the results and when I say results I mean for the kids who actually achieve an IB diploma, not those at BCC who took just one IB class mixed in with regular classes in their 11th grade.

Well, the result is you got an IB diploma. I mean, the test-in programs might have a higher pass rate vs. self-selected kids in a given schools, sure. But if you do the work and get a diploma, it means you met the same standards as students who got an IB diploma anywhere else in the world, right?

So a motivated kid at BCC or Einstein who gets an IB diploma earns the same diploma as the kids at whatever fancy private school you're talking about, or a school in England or Sweden or Italy. That's the entire point. Maybe the odds are stacked against them, and they have to work a little harder on their own to get there; but if they get the diploma, it means they met the International Baccalaureate standards. Period.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The BCC option is to take an occasional IB class, without getting the full diploma. Also diplomas are graded. RMIB had a 92% pass rate then they changed administrators (about 5 yrs ago?) and it dropped to 72% or thereabouts.

There are many threads on this forum, if you care to search for them which are detailed and sometimes very heated, but very informative.

Wow, is that true? That’s quite a difference. Is it the teaching that’s deteriorated or the ability of the students?

I have a kid in the RMIB and didn’t realize the pass rate was so low!

Now gone principal never liked RMIB program when my kid was there. Everyone in the program knew that. He opened up the program to include less qualified kids and therefore drop in passing rate. It is not the same but 70+ is still not too bad

There is HUGE difference between 92% and 72% and you know that. HUGE

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

91/96 seniors got their IB diploma. That info is part of the parent presentation on their website. Not sure why you wouldn’t believe it.

that's a very tiny minority of students.

Maybe 15-20% of each class decides to try for the full diploma. I don’t think that’s a tiny minority but that’s irrelevant. The original claims were that it’s a bad program that doesn’t prepare kids to get an IB diploma and that’s clearly just BS.

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Anonymous wrote:It depends where they do it. BCC - total waste of time, RMIB used to be prestigious but has gone down the tubes.

Lycee Rochambeau - probably your best bet

Oh, hey! More private school recruiting!

Well my own kids go to Whitman, that's just my opinion on the IB opportunities locally.

So you really have no basis for the statement.

Yes actually I do. I did the IB in England and know what is missing from the programs here that I mentioned and the one that I believe is good. I investigated them thoroughly for our kids only a couple of years ago.

Is my interview over now, sir?

Not the original interrogator, but I’m still not sure what you think the differences are? Aren’t all IB students following the same curriculum and passing the same exams based on the same criteria? If they pass the exams, wouldn’t that demonstrate they’d learned the material to the same high standards? I get that the instructors may vary, but if they’re prepared for the exams, what does it matter where or how they learned the material? I mean, that’s kind of the point of standardized exams.

Sure. Now compare the results and when I say results I mean for the kids who actually achieve an IB diploma, not those at BCC who took just one IB class mixed in with regular classes in their 11th grade.

Well, the result is you got an IB diploma. I mean, the test-in programs might have a higher pass rate vs. self-selected kids in a given schools, sure. But if you do the work and get a diploma, it means you met the same standards as students who got an IB diploma anywhere else in the world, right?

So a motivated kid at BCC or Einstein who gets an IB diploma earns the same diploma as the kids at whatever fancy private school you're talking about, or a school in England or Sweden or Italy. That's the entire point. Maybe the odds are stacked against them, and they have to work a little harder on their own to get there; but if they get the diploma, it means they met the International Baccalaureate standards. Period.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The BCC option is to take an occasional IB class, without getting the full diploma. Also diplomas are graded. RMIB had a 92% pass rate then they changed administrators (about 5 yrs ago?) and it dropped to 72% or thereabouts.

There are many threads on this forum, if you care to search for them which are detailed and sometimes very heated, but very informative.

Wow, is that true? That’s quite a difference. Is it the teaching that’s deteriorated or the ability of the students?

I have a kid in the RMIB and didn’t realize the pass rate was so low!

Now gone principal never liked RMIB program when my kid was there. Everyone in the program knew that. He opened up the program to include less qualified kids and therefore drop in passing rate. It is not the same but 70+ is still not too bad

There is HUGE difference between 92% and 72% and you know that. HUGE

But there is no evidence it ever actually dropped to 72%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

91/96 seniors got their IB diploma. That info is part of the parent presentation on their website. Not sure why you wouldn’t believe it.

that's a very tiny minority of students.

Maybe 15-20% of each class decides to try for the full diploma. I don’t think that’s a tiny minority but that’s irrelevant. The original claims were that it’s a bad program that doesn’t prepare kids to get an IB diploma and that’s clearly just BS.

There is a person (or maybe a few) trolling these boards professionally - like it was their actual job.

[Anonymous]

My son completed his first year at RMIB last week. He really likes the program and appreciated the cohort. There are so many talented, hard-working students in the program!

He's not a procrastinator, so there were zero late nights studying.

But he had to work much, much harder than in his non-magnet middle school, especially for his English class. Math comes easily to him, so that was a breeze.

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Anonymous wrote:It depends where they do it. BCC - total waste of time, RMIB used to be prestigious but has gone down the tubes.

Lycee Rochambeau - probably your best bet

Oh, hey! More private school recruiting!

Well my own kids go to Whitman, that's just my opinion on the IB opportunities locally.

So you really have no basis for the statement.

Yes actually I do. I did the IB in England and know what is missing from the programs here that I mentioned and the one that I believe is good. I investigated them thoroughly for our kids only a couple of years ago.

Is my interview over now, sir?

Not the original interrogator, but I’m still not sure what you think the differences are? Aren’t all IB students following the same curriculum and passing the same exams based on the same criteria? If they pass the exams, wouldn’t that demonstrate they’d learned the material to the same high standards? I get that the instructors may vary, but if they’re prepared for the exams, what does it matter where or how they learned the material? I mean, that’s kind of the point of standardized exams.

Sure. Now compare the results and when I say results I mean for the kids who actually achieve an IB diploma, not those at BCC who took just one IB class mixed in with regular classes in their 11th grade.

Well, the result is you got an IB diploma. I mean, the test-in programs might have a higher pass rate vs. self-selected kids in a given schools, sure. But if you do the work and get a diploma, it means you met the same standards as students who got an IB diploma anywhere else in the world, right?

So a motivated kid at BCC or Einstein who gets an IB diploma earns the same diploma as the kids at whatever fancy private school you're talking about, or a school in England or Sweden or Italy. That's the entire point. Maybe the odds are stacked against them, and they have to work a little harder on their own to get there; but if they get the diploma, it means they met the International Baccalaureate standards. Period.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The BCC option is to take an occasional IB class, without getting the full diploma. Also diplomas are graded. RMIB had a 92% pass rate then they changed administrators (about 5 yrs ago?) and it dropped to 72% or thereabouts.

There are many threads on this forum, if you care to search for them which are detailed and sometimes very heated, but very informative.

Wow, is that true? That’s quite a difference. Is it the teaching that’s deteriorated or the ability of the students?

I have a kid in the RMIB and didn’t realize the pass rate was so low!

They had to diversify just like TJ in Virginia. It was too asian which is ridiculous. The best should get in period.

Firstly that would be illegal. Secondly, TJ is currently over 50% Asian in a county that is only 15% Asian. Please stop spreading this misinformation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends where they do it. BCC - total waste of time, RMIB used to be prestigious but has gone down the tubes.

Lycee Rochambeau - probably your best bet

Oh, hey! More private school recruiting!

Well my own kids go to Whitman, that's just my opinion on the IB opportunities locally.

So you really have no basis for the statement.

Yes actually I do. I did the IB in England and know what is missing from the programs here that I mentioned and the one that I believe is good. I investigated them thoroughly for our kids only a couple of years ago.

Is my interview over now, sir?

Not the original interrogator, but I’m still not sure what you think the differences are? Aren’t all IB students following the same curriculum and passing the same exams based on the same criteria? If they pass the exams, wouldn’t that demonstrate they’d learned the material to the same high standards? I get that the instructors may vary, but if they’re prepared for the exams, what does it matter where or how they learned the material? I mean, that’s kind of the point of standardized exams.

Sure. Now compare the results and when I say results I mean for the kids who actually achieve an IB diploma, not those at BCC who took just one IB class mixed in with regular classes in their 11th grade.

Well, the result is you got an IB diploma. I mean, the test-in programs might have a higher pass rate vs. self-selected kids in a given schools, sure. But if you do the work and get a diploma, it means you met the same standards as students who got an IB diploma anywhere else in the world, right?

So a motivated kid at BCC or Einstein who gets an IB diploma earns the same diploma as the kids at whatever fancy private school you're talking about, or a school in England or Sweden or Italy. That's the entire point. Maybe the odds are stacked against them, and they have to work a little harder on their own to get there; but if they get the diploma, it means they met the International Baccalaureate standards. Period.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The BCC option is to take an occasional IB class, without getting the full diploma. Also diplomas are graded. RMIB had a 92% pass rate then they changed administrators (about 5 yrs ago?) and it dropped to 72% or thereabouts.

There are many threads on this forum, if you care to search for them which are detailed and sometimes very heated, but very informative.

Wow, is that true? That’s quite a difference. Is it the teaching that’s deteriorated or the ability of the students?

I have a kid in the RMIB and didn’t realize the pass rate was so low!

They had to diversify just like TJ in Virginia. It was too asian which is ridiculous. The best should get in period.

Firstly that would be illegal. Secondly, TJ is currently over 50% Asian in a county that is only 15% Asian. Please stop spreading this misinformation.

I heard they improved admissions by cutting back admissions for those who were buying the test answers.

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Anonymous wrote:It depends where they do it. BCC - total waste of time, RMIB used to be prestigious but has gone down the tubes.

Lycee Rochambeau - probably your best bet

Oh, hey! More private school recruiting!

Well my own kids go to Whitman, that's just my opinion on the IB opportunities locally.

So you really have no basis for the statement.

Yes actually I do. I did the IB in England and know what is missing from the programs here that I mentioned and the one that I believe is good. I investigated them thoroughly for our kids only a couple of years ago.

Is my interview over now, sir?

Not the original interrogator, but I’m still not sure what you think the differences are? Aren’t all IB students following the same curriculum and passing the same exams based on the same criteria? If they pass the exams, wouldn’t that demonstrate they’d learned the material to the same high standards? I get that the instructors may vary, but if they’re prepared for the exams, what does it matter where or how they learned the material? I mean, that’s kind of the point of standardized exams.

Sure. Now compare the results and when I say results I mean for the kids who actually achieve an IB diploma, not those at BCC who took just one IB class mixed in with regular classes in their 11th grade.

Well, the result is you got an IB diploma. I mean, the test-in programs might have a higher pass rate vs. self-selected kids in a given schools, sure. But if you do the work and get a diploma, it means you met the same standards as students who got an IB diploma anywhere else in the world, right?

So a motivated kid at BCC or Einstein who gets an IB diploma earns the same diploma as the kids at whatever fancy private school you're talking about, or a school in England or Sweden or Italy. That's the entire point. Maybe the odds are stacked against them, and they have to work a little harder on their own to get there; but if they get the diploma, it means they met the International Baccalaureate standards. Period.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. The BCC option is to take an occasional IB class, without getting the full diploma. Also diplomas are graded. RMIB had a 92% pass rate then they changed administrators (about 5 yrs ago?) and it dropped to 72% or thereabouts.

There are many threads on this forum, if you care to search for them which are detailed and sometimes very heated, but very informative.

Wow, is that true? That’s quite a difference. Is it the teaching that’s deteriorated or the ability of the students?

I have a kid in the RMIB and didn’t realize the pass rate was so low!

They had to diversify just like TJ in Virginia. It was too asian which is ridiculous. The best should get in period.

Firstly that would be illegal. Secondly, TJ is currently over 50% Asian in a county that is only 15% Asian. Please stop spreading this misinformation.

I heard they improved admissions by cutting back admissions for those who were buying the test answers.

Troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

91/96 seniors got their IB diploma. That info is part of the parent presentation on their website. Not sure why you wouldn’t believe it.

that's a very tiny minority of students.

Maybe 15-20% of each class decides to try for the full diploma. I don’t think that’s a tiny minority but that’s irrelevant. The original claims were that it’s a bad program that doesn’t prepare kids to get an IB diploma and that’s clearly just BS.

If the program were stronger it would have more students doing well in it. I wonder if there's some kind of internal cull that happens to help the numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: BCC had a 95% pass rate in 2021

I don't believe that. Link please. It maybe something else BCC came up with.

91/96 seniors got their IB diploma. That info is part of the parent presentation on their website. Not sure why you wouldn’t believe it.

that's a very tiny minority of students.

Maybe 15-20% of each class decides to try for the full diploma. I don’t think that’s a tiny minority but that’s irrelevant. The original claims were that it’s a bad program that doesn’t prepare kids to get an IB diploma and that’s clearly just BS.

If the program were stronger it would have more students doing well in it. I wonder if there's some kind of internal cull that happens to help the numbers.

Internal cull????

I half expect you to start talking about Soylent Green next...