Moving to Orange County FL Orlando from McLean to Windemere, schools are bad? Oviedo is better? Help

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Anonymous wrote:Why Orlando area? Is this a job related move?

Job-related and we want to move to a more affordable area. The DC area is getting too expensive.

You live in a 3.5M house and DC is too expensive??!!!

Have you lived in Central Florida before? It’s going to be a culture shock. Even private schools are going to be not really that academic, Florida is basically a state of hedonists. Just plan on going private, and still understand it won’t be anything like the education you would get at a DC private or McLean school

The culture shock will set in when you realize that Central Florida has no culture. Enjoy Disney and Universal Studios.

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HS students coming to FCPS from FL, and are classified as"GT", generally struggle in advanced classes in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

We weren't. My kids went to Winter Park. Fantastic school, very diverse. My kids went to college for free, too! Hard to beat that. Now, if you are scared of brown and/or poor kids, you will probably be disappointed. The schools in FL aren't like they are in say, McLean or Bethesda. Winter Park, and most other high schools, will have kids living in multimillion dollar homes going to school with kids from low income apartment complexes. If you want the hyper-segregated experience of a McLean or Langley, you will have to do private. But most of us think there is value in diverse schools. Different strokes.

Langley HS is hyper-segregated economically. Elaine Tholen and the rest of the FCPS School Board keep it that way. McLean HS is more diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

We weren't. My kids went to Winter Park. Fantastic school, very diverse. My kids went to college for free, too! Hard to beat that. Now, if you are scared of brown and/or poor kids, you will probably be disappointed. The schools in FL aren't like they are in say, McLean or Bethesda. Winter Park, and most other high schools, will have kids living in multimillion dollar homes going to school with kids from low income apartment complexes. If you want the hyper-segregated experience of a McLean or Langley, you will have to do private. But most of us think there is value in diverse schools. Different strokes.

I’m from Florida, it’s segregation beats DMV hands-down (I think they invented gated communities!).

There is no way Winter Park was more diverse than McLean, unless you mean you were happy there were less Asians, and more blacks.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/winter-park-fl-population

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/mclean-va-population

And playing the race card for response to school quality is weak anyways.

Winter Park the high school not Winter Park the city...

So explain why someone will be "very disappointed" by a school like Winter Park then.

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Anonymous wrote:HS students coming to FCPS from FL, and are classified as"GT", generally struggle in advanced classes in FCPS.

lol ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

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Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Florida schools are not too in the nation, they are ranked very low nationality on usnews

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Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Florida schools are not too in the nation, they are ranked very low nationality on usnews

???? #1 for college and #16 for k-12
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

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Anonymous wrote:My parents have lived in Winter Springs for almost 40 years now (they moved when I graduated high school, so I have only lived shorter periods with them). But my mother has been a realtor in the Orlando area for nearly 40 years.

Seminole County schools are good because it is like Howard County in MD. It is less dense and more spread out and there is a higher average wealth in each school. Each school is good to very good, but there are limited exceptional schools (for public). Additionally, not as many students (about 66K) Orange County is more like Montgomery County. It has some very wealthy enclaves and it also has some much poorer areas. So you'll have a handful of exceptional schools (again, on the public scale), but you'll also have some mediocre and some poor schools.

As one PP mentioned, Winter Park is like the W schools in MCPS.

Is the DC area spoiled with good schools? Maybe thats the problem.

And more segregated

It’s full of high income people whose kids do well in school, which is why the schools are better.

Looking at the farms rate in windemere and winter park high school they are in the 35%

Yes, I meant the dc area is much wealthier on the whole, which is why suburban dc schools are better. Winter Park is widely considered to be the best part of the Orlando area. Public schools there are considered to be good. I think motivated, smart kids would do well in any winter park public school. But I am not googling farms rates. Most good students are aiming for in state at UF or maybe Emory. It’s different than nova.

How can there be 35% farms and winter park bean exclusive area?

the high school doesn't just draw from Winter Park itself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Florida schools are not too in the nation, they are ranked very low nationality on usnews

???? #1 for college and #16 for k-12
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

Pp is talking about public high schools based on zones

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/search?public=true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Interesting link - thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Interesting link - thanks!

Don't care for the that and it doesn't concern our situation , looking for a similar McLean and Langley High school experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Florida schools are not too in the nation, they are ranked very low nationality on usnews

Wow, proofreading not your forte eh?

Florida has many great schools that show up on any list of the best schools in the US. There are also many areas in Florida with good public schools. Not all, of course, just like Virginia and Maryland and of course DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why Orlando area? Is this a job related move?

Job-related and we want to move to a more affordable area. The DC area is getting too expensive.

You live in a 3.5M house and DC is too expensive??!!!

Have you lived in Central Florida before? It’s going to be a culture shock. Even private schools are going to be not really that academic, Florida is basically a state of hedonists. Just plan on going private, and still understand it won’t be anything like the education you would get at a DC private or McLean school

The culture shock will set in when you realize that Central Florida has no culture. Enjoy Disney and Universal Studios.

Orlando has theater, arts, museums, music venues, sports arenas, wonderful restaurants, and unlimited fun outdoor activities such as world class golf courses, beautiful parks, water sports, fishing, kayaking, and camping. It's not far from some of the best equestrian areas in the country. It's less than an hour from the ocean and about two hours from the gulf. It has good medical facilities, colleges and private schools as well as some good public schools.

Just because most of DCUM only goes to Florida to visit the inane theme parks doesn't mean that is all that is there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take the advice of sending your kids to private, please.

+1 Florida is not known for good schools. You will be very disappointed.

State rankings are generally just based on socioeconomic status. It is easy to be "known for good schools" when your state is demographically consistent with those groups that tend to do well on standardized tests (white, asian, high SES, etc.) But looking at school rankings based on that criteria is not being a good consumer of data. When you disaggregate based on race/socioeconomic status, the picture looks very different and Florida schools are among the top in the nation. It is more meaningful and technically sound to compare apples to apples- e.g., how does a low SES black student fare in FL fare compared to a low SES black student in Maryland? A high SES white student in FL vs. a high SES white student in CT? This article does a great job explaining this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9617514/test-scores-naep-2013

Interesting link - thanks!

Don't care for the that and it doesn't concern our situation , looking for a similar McLean and Langley High school experience.

That's not going to happen, sorry. Florida is just different.