When will quarantine / mandatory absence from school stop for Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s probably a gastric sleeve. That recovery sounds about right


This or some kind of cosmetic surgery. The recovery is longer than you’d think.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s probably a gastric sleeve. That recovery sounds about right


This or some kind of cosmetic surgery. The recovery is longer than you’d think.


Not 6+ weeks to return to work, though. 2-4 weeks, assuming you can take it easy. Sure, there'd be follow-up appointments after that, but you could return to work.

That's what I find so curious about this. Abdominal surgeries are some of the hardest surgeries to recover from, but not this long. And I'm really struggling to think of surgeries with longer recovery times that wouldn't be done semi-emergently.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Obviously all of that is true, but I’m still curious.

MCEA has really done a disservice to its members by holding back substitute teacher pay all these years. Daily sub pay should be at least the same as she the daily rate of starting teachers in order to have an even small chance of attracting qualified subs. Higher sub pay, and potentially some adjustments to sick leave allowances and policies, is the answer here.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m also somewhat surprised they’d be testing patients that are vaccinated/boosted. I certainly know practices that are requiring tests for patients that aren’t vaccinated, but nearly all of them don’t test for vaccinated patients. Basically, they don’t want to know. They lost enough business at other points of the pandemic that they really don’t want to cancel procedures now.


Vaccines do not prevent you from catching or transmitting Covid. You can be vaccinated and still spread Covid.



Actually new findings show that vaccinated individuals do not transmit as readily.

"Fully vaccinated individuals had a shorter duration of viable viral shedding and a lower rate of secondary transmission than partially vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals."

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Anonymous wrote:I’m also somewhat surprised they’d be testing patients that are vaccinated/boosted. I certainly know practices that are requiring tests for patients that aren’t vaccinated, but nearly all of them don’t test for vaccinated patients. Basically, they don’t want to know. They lost enough business at other points of the pandemic that they really don’t want to cancel procedures now.


Vaccines do not prevent you from catching or transmitting Covid. You can be vaccinated and still spread Covid.


Actually new findings show that vaccinated individuals do not transmit as readily.

"Fully vaccinated individuals had a shorter duration of viable viral shedding and a lower rate of secondary transmission than partially vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals."



Sure, but if you’re a zero-covid person, any risk of transmission is unacceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?


DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?


Of course I would. I just assume people I work with are contagious. I assume people in the grocery store I visit every day and while indoor dining several times a week are contagious. I think about a 100 different things during the course of the day, and Covid isn't really one of them.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?


DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.


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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?


DP, but of course. Who expects coworkers to test for asymptomatic illnesses? That’s a risk you take by living around others.


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That’s not what I meant. Posters have said that asymptomatic children should be allowed in school and not forced to remain home for five days because they “feel fine.” My question is… Are you comfortable working side-by-side a coworker who has tested positive and comes to work because they “feel fine.” Maybe they tested because a family member tested positive. Regardless of the reason for testing, if a person knows they have tested positive and comes into your place of work, are you comfortable working in a room all day with this person? Wouldn’t you prefer the positive person remains home for the recommended five days?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher (vaccinated/boosted). I had three students out this past week with Covid (all three of these students do not wear masks). I also have families who have stopped the in-school testing for their children (these students don’t wear masks at school). My situation may not be something that comes to mind with many of you. I am scheduled to have surgery in less than four weeks. If I test positive for Covid, I can’t have surgery. My surgeon wanted to operate sooner, but I wanted to wait until school was over. It’s a surgery with a long recovery and I need the summer to recuperate. I am doing everything I can while in the classroom (including wearing a proper mask) to avoid testing positive. It doesn’t matter if I’m asymptomatic. A positive test result means I can’t have surgery in June.

Sometimes testing is about protecting others who may have situations you know nothing about.


As someone with immediate family members with complicated medical conditions, I’m fairly sympathetic to those, but I’m pretty confused by what sort of surgery would have such a long recovery period that you couldn’t wait 2 weeks after school and still be able to work in the fall. One of my family members was jogging less than 3 months after a liver transplant, and there aren’t a lot of procedures with longer recovery times than that.


Having surgery at the end of June gives me the time to recover so I WILL be able to work in August.



Understood, but while I obviously have no idea what sort of surgery you’re having done, it really seems like having the surgery at the of June or the beginning of July would either allow you to go back before classes resume, or at least minimize time away. If you’re really that concerned about the impact of getting covid, it seems like waiting a couple weeks would have been a good tradeoff.

Interesting that it’s being done at a hospital. Almost everything non-emergent is done at outpatient surgical centers these days.


Unbelievable. Someone posts about their surgery and dcurbsnmom types blame them, interrogate them, and pretty much accuse them of lying.

I ask myself time and again... What is wrong with you people?


No accusations intended. I’m really curious about what she’s having done. It sounds like it must be an unusual procedure.


Why? Is your life that hollow and empty? Do you watch a lot of surgery shows? Does health confidentiality only apply to *your* family?


She’s the one that brought up the surgery and extended recovery time.


Dp. I agree it made sense to be curious. She was saying she was having a surgery that takes over 2.5 months to recover from and couldn’t possibly delay it to allow her to actually isolate before hand. And this was a reason for kids to be isolating, masking, and testing for light illnesses. She should be challenged.


I think “challenged” is the wrong word. But she brought up an interesting scenario and left of hanging on the details. Of course I’m going to wonder.

Gastric sleeve is a good guess. And while I'm sure they said the recovery time would be several months, I highly, highly doubt they'd tell someone they'd need to take 2 months off work for that.


Regardless of the surgery and to the point of this thread, expecting asymptomatic children to stay home from school for a full week despite the fact that they’re feeling good and ready to learn to avoid infection before surgery is not reasonable. The more reasonable path is that the individual who is going into surgery isolates for two weeks prior. There’s no such thing as zero risk even with masking and testing. Enough with the disruption to our kids education!


Do you feel the same way about asymptomatic people at your place of work? Are you o.k. working side by side with coworkers who have tested positive but are asymptomatic? What if they tell you they “feel fine?” They’re still testing positive and you can honestly say you have no problem working side by side this person?


This is the OP. I do. I currently work in an office where vaccines are required but masking and testing aren’t. I continue to mask and try and wash my hands as often as I can. I accept the risk and just as with potential to get a cold or flu or other transmissible illnesses, acknowledge that once in a while I may get sick. My colleagues are pretty good about staying home if they have symptoms. When I had a cough and congestion a few weeks ago I stayed home (tested negative for Covid).

The fact that my son had to stay home a full week despite being mildly symptomatic for two days doesn’t seem consistent with the risk we’re trying to mitigate at this stage of the pandemic with the current variant. As I mentioned up thread, if my child has symptoms I’ll keep him home. But a third grader out for five days at a time every time he has cold-like congestion is not reasonable.
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