Are you at a $40k+ LS/MS that doesn’t offer much beyond public?

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Anonymous wrote:So basically you’re saying that a $40 k private is synonymous with public schools 35 years ago? I’ll stick with homeschooling, it’s cheaper and the programming well surpasses private or public.

Hmm. If I make $200k and homeschool 2 kids rather than work — how is $100k tuition cheaper (I guess it’s more like $70k to account for after tax dollars)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish this pointless weekly thread required every poster to state the name of the schools they’re discussing first hand. It’s otherwise useless.

+1. A lot of people in my neighborhood like to brag about how they’re sending their kids “private” but they end up being $15-20k crappy parochial or Christian schools. Um, no one is envious of that

Parochial are well known to not be better in academics. It is ironic that people brag about sending their children to one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the $40+ schools have more playtime, art, music, and science than public school, but likely does not have more math and reading instruction. That may or may not be valuable to you.

There are only so many hours in a day. If you want more art music and play, then that time has to come from somewhere.

In public school my kids spent a LOT of time waiting for teacher to help the rest of the class. Did homework. Read a novel a day. Doodled. Fine to give that up so the core 6 hrs are doing SOMETHING, and homework is for home.

And you think that doesn’t happen in private? The teacher should be helping the kids in class.

Ratios are better. In ours, 2 teachers and often a math or LA specialist for a class of 15-18. With those ratios, everyone gets the help or extension they need without waiting around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, she hijacks the threads where people like us are posting on-topic content, and those who call her out on it are the "stalkers" here?

Okay, you do sound like a stalker. I’m just saying.

And you do sound delusional, I'm just saying.

(hint: it's not stalking when all the content is out there in plain view on every other thread, with the same telltale catchphrases...stalking implies having to dig and hunt, which isn't at all necessary here)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL, she hijacks the threads where people like us are posting on-topic content, and those who call her out on it are the "stalkers" here?

Okay, you do sound like a stalker. I’m just saying.

And you do sound delusional, I'm just saying.

(hint: it's not stalking when all the content is out there in plain view on every other thread, with the same telltale catchphrases...stalking implies having to dig and hunt, which isn't at all necessary here)

Are you finished hijacking this thread after you complained of someone hijacking threads?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the $40+ schools have more playtime, art, music, and science than public school, but likely does not have more math and reading instruction. That may or may not be valuable to you.

There are only so many hours in a day. If you want more art music and play, then that time has to come from somewhere.

In public school my kids spent a LOT of time waiting for teacher to help the rest of the class. Did homework. Read a novel a day. Doodled. Fine to give that up so the core 6 hrs are doing SOMETHING, and homework is for home.

And you think that doesn’t happen in private? The teacher should be helping the kids in class.

There are fewer kids and they are more closer to on level within the class. This is what my kid reports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL, she hijacks the threads where people like us are posting on-topic content, and those who call her out on it are the "stalkers" here?

Okay, you do sound like a stalker. I’m just saying.

And you do sound delusional, I'm just saying.

(hint: it's not stalking when all the content is out there in plain view on every other thread, with the same telltale catchphrases...stalking implies having to dig and hunt, which isn't at all necessary here)

Stalker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish this pointless weekly thread required every poster to state the name of the schools they’re discussing first hand. It’s otherwise useless.

+1. A lot of people in my neighborhood like to brag about how they’re sending their kids “private” but they end up being $15-20k crappy parochial or Christian schools. Um, no one is envious of that

Parochial are well known to not be better in academics. It is ironic that people brag about sending their children to one.

But they don’t like to say that it’s parochial (or Christian). They just say “private”. As if there’s any comparison between those and the actual top independents. The schools proudly state that their curricula are based on the Bible!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the $40+ schools have more playtime, art, music, and science than public school, but likely does not have more math and reading instruction. That may or may not be valuable to you.

There are only so many hours in a day. If you want more art music and play, then that time has to come from somewhere.

In public school my kids spent a LOT of time waiting for teacher to help the rest of the class. Did homework. Read a novel a day. Doodled. Fine to give that up so the core 6 hrs are doing SOMETHING, and homework is for home.

And you think that doesn’t happen in private? The teacher should be helping the kids in class.

There are fewer kids and they are more closer to on level within the class. This is what my kid reports.

Same at my private but the academics are not as good. So going back to public where he will get a better education with more kids in class without the tuition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the $40+ schools have more playtime, art, music, and science than public school, but likely does not have more math and reading instruction. That may or may not be valuable to you.

There are only so many hours in a day. If you want more art music and play, then that time has to come from somewhere.

In public school my kids spent a LOT of time waiting for teacher to help the rest of the class. Did homework. Read a novel a day. Doodled. Fine to give that up so the core 6 hrs are doing SOMETHING, and homework is for home.

And you think that doesn’t happen in private? The teacher should be helping the kids in class.

There are fewer kids and they are more closer to on level within the class. This is what my kid reports.

Same at my private but the academics are not as good. So going back to public where he will get a better education with more kids in class without the tuition.

No one goes to a religious school expecting the academics to be good

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As PP said, core instruction isn't necessarily better than in good publics. You are paying for manicured grounds, extensive athletic facilities, plush seating in the library and the connections you might or might not make with influential families.

I don't think that's true. You are also getting:
- much smaller class sizes (10-15 v. 23-26)
- disruptive kids kept out- this is huge in my opinion
- more consistent quality for teachers- many public school teachers are great, but others are not; we have only seen high quality in private
- no/less standardized testing

If you aren't getting these things from your private, then I would question whether the cost is worth it.

Disruptive kids kept out? Can I come work at your school? Or better yet, send my kids to your school. I left public thinking this was true in private and it’s false. It takes years to “counsel out” a disruptive kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All schools have the potential for some degree of behavior problems, but the most extreme problems at public school with be more disruptive than the extreme problems in private schools.

Friends of ours were die-hard public school advocates until one of their elementary school daughters ended up in class with a child who was having violent meltdowns several times a week. The rest of the class was trained in how to safely evacuate the classroom when something set this this child off, and they had to do it at least every other day. The public school was doing their best, but didn't have the resources to safely manage and support the student in the mainstream classroom that the IEP mandated (they couldn't find enough 1:1 aides). Our friends moved their daughter to a small religious private school that had mid-year openings and haven't looked back.

My parents moved my brother to private school when they realized that it was the norm to have students putting other students in headlocks during lunch (and sometimes during unstructured time in class!) in his well-ranked public middle school.

All that said, those are extreme examples. Most people won't encounter situations like this, but it is possible in public school. I can't think of a single mainstream private school that would allow it, let alone make it the norm.

That's why parents want their kids in GT programs. My kid in AAP has never had to deal with classroom evacuations

Or at least tracking so students aren’t taught to potential not national averages or the bottom quartile

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL, she hijacks the threads where people like us are posting on-topic content, and those who call her out on it are the "stalkers" here?

Okay, you do sound like a stalker. I’m just saying.

And you do sound delusional, I'm just saying.

(hint: it's not stalking when all the content is out there in plain view on every other thread, with the same telltale catchphrases...stalking implies having to dig and hunt, which isn't at all necessary here)

Stalker.

Sociopath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the $40+ schools have more playtime, art, music, and science than public school, but likely does not have more math and reading instruction. That may or may not be valuable to you.

There are only so many hours in a day. If you want more art music and play, then that time has to come from somewhere.

In public school my kids spent a LOT of time waiting for teacher to help the rest of the class. Did homework. Read a novel a day. Doodled. Fine to give that up so the core 6 hrs are doing SOMETHING, and homework is for home.

And you think that doesn’t happen in private? The teacher should be helping the kids in class.

There are fewer kids and they are more closer to on level within the class. This is what my kid reports.

Same at my private but the academics are not as good. So going back to public where he will get a better education with more kids in class without the tuition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the $40+ schools have more playtime, art, music, and science than public school, but likely does not have more math and reading instruction. That may or may not be valuable to you.

There are only so many hours in a day. If you want more art music and play, then that time has to come from somewhere.

In public school my kids spent a LOT of time waiting for teacher to help the rest of the class. Did homework. Read a novel a day. Doodled. Fine to give that up so the core 6 hrs are doing SOMETHING, and homework is for home.

And you think that doesn’t happen in private? The teacher should be helping the kids in class.

There are fewer kids and they are more closer to on level within the class. This is what my kid reports.

Same at my private but the academics are not as good. So going back to public where he will get a better education with more kids in class without the tuition.

No one goes to a religious school expecting the academics to be good

Like NCS? STA? I would add SFS but no one really believes it’s Quaker anymore.