Takoma park magnet worth it?

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

Oh no it's a locally normed 15% so relative to their home school.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

We were a TPMS magnet family. Zoned for TPMS. And for Blair. TPMS was awful. We went private for the rest of middle school and RMIB for high school. Things change, but it's not the crazy sparkling unicorn you all make it out to be.

Wow! We have experience with TPMS Magnet, Blair Magnet and also at non-magnet middle schools. Pre-lottery. TPMS Magnet has some dedicated teachers. Blair STEM has a great student cohort - hopefully, it remains the same. We did explore private but wanted the diversity for our kids. Right or wrong decision - who knows.

DC won the lottery last year. None of their magnet teachers are new so guessing that's the same. Overall they've loved the program. My old kid also went through it and as far as we can tell it's the same as ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

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Glad I don't have to hand wring over this because my kid is in the TPMS magnet, loves it, and is thriving.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

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Anonymous wrote:Any feedback from parents of kids who didn’t live close in? We have to make a decision and my kid doesn’t know anyone going.

We hesitated because of the long commute but my 7th grader loves it. I would definitely take the spot if I were you. My kid has never been as excited about school as they have been in the magnet!

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

You could move to TKPK like we did.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

We were a TPMS magnet family. Zoned for TPMS. And for Blair. TPMS was awful. We went private for the rest of middle school and RMIB for high school. Things change, but it's not the crazy sparkling unicorn you all make it out to be.

Wow! We have experience with TPMS Magnet, Blair Magnet and also at non-magnet middle schools. Pre-lottery. TPMS Magnet has some dedicated teachers. Blair STEM has a great student cohort - hopefully, it remains the same. We did explore private but wanted the diversity for our kids. Right or wrong decision - who knows.

DC won the lottery last year. None of their magnet teachers are new so guessing that's the same. Overall they've loved the program. My old kid also went through it and as far as we can tell it's the same as ever.

It is different. Whether it is good different or bad different for the program, only time will tell. Teachers are same and are good.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

You can buy our house. I hate it here.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

You could move to TKPK like we did.

My kid who was 25 points above the 99% on their MAP-M in CES and with straight A's every single quarter who was also in-boundary didn't get in. This is the nature of lotteries.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

You could move to TKPK like we did.

Your odds are much better but there's still no guarantee (these days).

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

The 25 seats are from the school. They do not take away from the program.

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First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

The 25 seats are from the school. They do not take away from the program.

Like Blair SMCS, TPMS magnet program has 100 seats. The school sets aside 25 additional seats for in-boundary students. Blair should do the same. It would be a good way to expand the program without adding more students.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is super crazy.

First of all, tons of houses zoned for Blair cost upwards of $1 million, so I'm really not sure where it makes any sense to call people "poor" here. I'm also not sure how or why it's ok to angrily jab at people for having less money than people in Bethesda or Potomac. YIKES. Not a good look.

Second, living in bounds for TPMS or Blair does not, in any way, guarantee admission to a magnet. It didn't with the old process, and it certainly doesn't now. Does it make people feel better to think it does? Even with great test scores, perfect grades, and a great kid, that kid is nowhere near sure to get a slot in any MCPS magnet.

Third, Wootton is spelled without an "e."

Fourth, god you people are awful.

TPMS has in boundary set aside for 25 kids in addition to the 100 who are bussed in. Of course, there's no guarantee especially with the lottery no matter how smart your kid is but their odds are much better living in boundary.

They are tremendously better! But realize there are 25 spots for 400+ kids, probably 1/3 of whom are academically capable and a good fit for the opportunity. And I expect those will go away in some time.

Doubt those seats are going anywhere and there are more like 250-300 kids and only the top 15% are considered so your odds are more like 25/45.

At last count TPMS had 405 students in 6th grade with a total enrollment of 1,162. You may be thinking of TPES/Piney Branch, but there's also ESS, an entire school, that fees into it.

While there are a BUNCH of highly educated and affluent families in bounds, there are just as many families that are not (it's a 40% FARMS school which is on metric that tracks to this stuff pretty consistently).

The pool isn't top 15%: it's something like "if you make it into the top 15th percentile for MCPS" which is probably more at TPMS, but I'm not even sure it's that. Still, odds are better than literally any other school (particular of you are coming from the TPES/PBES route, statistically) but it's not a 25/45 chance. Not even close.

So of the 400 8th graders 300 are in-boundary and eligible for one of the set aside seats. 100 of those 400 8th graders are magnet kids from out of boundary.

No, that is not right.

Yes, it's fewer than 300 even!

TPMS has 1,162 students, https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03755.pdf

Each grade has 100 out of boundary magnet students.

1162 - 3 * 100 = 862 in boundary students

Of the 862 there are 25 in-boundary magnet students per grade. Since there are 3 grades, there are a total of 75 in-boundary magnet students.

The upper 15% of 862 is 129.3. The odds of an in-boundary kid in the top 15% getting selected is 75 / 129.3 or roughly 58%.

Pardon me if I’m a bit sour grapes that my out of boundary 99th percentile kid didn’t win the lottery, and these in bounds students have such a good chance at a seat in a program with so few overall seats.

The 25 seats are from the school. They do not take away from the program.

I understand how it is set up. But there’s no consistency within MCPS. If my same 99 percentile third grader didn’t win the lottery for CES but attended a school with a CES program, she would not only not get an extra set of seats for inclusion in CES, but she also would lose access to an ELC class because the school already has a special program. I mean, I guess unless she lived in TKPK where there is some extra non-regional CES access there too? Between the criteria changes year after year, the norming and weighting of “standardized” scores and the lack of equivalent acceleration at non magnet programs, I think MCPS should ask itself a lot of questions as to why these opportunities are being rationed when the cost to expand them isn’t really an issue.