When did parent teacher conference days become teacher vacation days?

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oh boy

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard teachers complaining about the opposite issue - they makes themselves available for PTC but the parents schedule 4 day mini vacations and then ask for the teachers to accommodate them on a different day. Which is super shitty in my opinion.

Former teacher here. I agree with this. But since I’ve been a parent, I haven’t gone on vacations during teacher workdays. I have noticed a trend. Most teachers now don’t schedule conferences on the actual teacher workdays and tend to do them before or after school. I find this more inconvenient for parents. Before school is tough - who is watching my kids that early in the am and getting them ready to go to school if I’m at the conference? After school again doesn’t work. Who is watching my kids or getting them from the bus stop? I am a SAHM with no outside childcare help. The teacher workdays are much easier for me to utilize for conferences. I can leave my kids at home because their Dad works from home. But early mornings on a school day with him working? Won’t work.

I notice the teachers who get all their conferences done before the workdays aren’t at school on those workdays. Classroom is dark and their doors are locked. They are taking the day off without using leave of course.

How do you know they are taking the day off without using leave? That’s a pretty mean assumption.
I see in your post that you are mostly concerned about what’s most convenient for you. Sure. Who isn’t? Well, the teacher has to accommodate more families than just you. I’ve held conferences on the PT conference days as well as before school and after school. I bend over backwards to accommodate families, yours AND all the others. Perhaps before school is tough for you, but there are plenty of families who prefer that.

Because that’s how it works. I used to teach for FCPS and you don’t have to take leave on a teacher workday. Principal usually gives “flex” time. Meaning you can “work from home.” Yeah right. The reality is teachers go out to lunch and take off the rest of the day.

DW and I both teach for FCPS. Unless the workday is one of the few "alternate work location days", we most definitely do have to take leave if we won't be in the building. We have 45 years in FCPS between us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard teachers complaining about the opposite issue - they makes themselves available for PTC but the parents schedule 4 day mini vacations and then ask for the teachers to accommodate them on a different day. Which is super shitty in my opinion.

Former teacher here. I agree with this. But since I’ve been a parent, I haven’t gone on vacations during teacher workdays. I have noticed a trend. Most teachers now don’t schedule conferences on the actual teacher workdays and tend to do them before or after school. I find this more inconvenient for parents. Before school is tough - who is watching my kids that early in the am and getting them ready to go to school if I’m at the conference? After school again doesn’t work. Who is watching my kids or getting them from the bus stop? I am a SAHM with no outside childcare help. The teacher workdays are much easier for me to utilize for conferences. I can leave my kids at home because their Dad works from home. But early mornings on a school day with him working? Won’t work.

I notice the teachers who get all their conferences done before the workdays aren’t at school on those workdays. Classroom is dark and their doors are locked. They are taking the day off without using leave of course.

How do you know they are taking the day off without using leave? That’s a pretty mean assumption.
I see in your post that you are mostly concerned about what’s most convenient for you. Sure. Who isn’t? Well, the teacher has to accommodate more families than just you. I’ve held conferences on the PT conference days as well as before school and after school. I bend over backwards to accommodate families, yours AND all the others. Perhaps before school is tough for you, but there are plenty of families who prefer that.

Because that’s how it works. I used to teach for FCPS and you don’t have to take leave on a teacher workday. Principal usually gives “flex” time. Meaning you can “work from home.” Yeah right. The reality is teachers go out to lunch and take off the rest of the day.

You’re full of crap.

-FCPS Teacher who hasn’t ever been offered FLEX time.

[Anonymous]

Post like this are what a lot of your teachers will be quitting in august

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Anonymous wrote:Post like this are what a lot of your teachers will be quitting in august

I don't blame them. Some parents are majorly entitled a-holes.

They should sit TF down.

[Anonymous]

I must have missed the memo that PTC days were for my vacation. Perhaps I shouldn't have scheduled 43 conferences over zoom over the course of two days. Definitely shouldn't have held conferences until 7pm at night on one of those days.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard teachers complaining about the opposite issue - they makes themselves available for PTC but the parents schedule 4 day mini vacations and then ask for the teachers to accommodate them on a different day. Which is super shitty in my opinion.

Former teacher here. I agree with this. But since I’ve been a parent, I haven’t gone on vacations during teacher workdays. I have noticed a trend. Most teachers now don’t schedule conferences on the actual teacher workdays and tend to do them before or after school. I find this more inconvenient for parents. Before school is tough - who is watching my kids that early in the am and getting them ready to go to school if I’m at the conference? After school again doesn’t work. Who is watching my kids or getting them from the bus stop? I am a SAHM with no outside childcare help. The teacher workdays are much easier for me to utilize for conferences. I can leave my kids at home because their Dad works from home. But early mornings on a school day with him working? Won’t work.

I notice the teachers who get all their conferences done before the workdays aren’t at school on those workdays. Classroom is dark and their doors are locked. They are taking the day off without using leave of course.

How do you know they are taking the day off without using leave? That’s a pretty mean assumption.
I see in your post that you are mostly concerned about what’s most convenient for you. Sure. Who isn’t? Well, the teacher has to accommodate more families than just you. I’ve held conferences on the PT conference days as well as before school and after school. I bend over backwards to accommodate families, yours AND all the others. Perhaps before school is tough for you, but there are plenty of families who prefer that.

Because that’s how it works. I used to teach for FCPS and you don’t have to take leave on a teacher workday. Principal usually gives “flex” time. Meaning you can “work from home.” Yeah right. The reality is teachers go out to lunch and take off the rest of the day.

Wow, that’s weird that you don’t work there any more. Sounds like a great gig.

+1. I’ve never had a principal who would let me get away with that.

Right?! Ok, troll…

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not the OP, but I just have to thrown in- I love virtual, evening conferences. Means my spouse and I can both attend, don’t have to worry about child care. If the teacher is at home, and then flexes that time to take out of the two official conference days, I care not. It works for me, why can’t it work for them??

Thanks for posting this. It totally makes sense to have flexibility. But negative poster’s intent is to trash teachers. If someone can only have a conference during the school day and the teacher is not accommodating it then talk to the principal. Stop generalizations that are so damaging. And stop vilifying teachers!

+1 Virtual conferences are amazing. I'm so much more relaxed and engaged when I don't have to worry about getting to school at odd times. I love virtual back-to-school nights too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard teachers complaining about the opposite issue - they makes themselves available for PTC but the parents schedule 4 day mini vacations and then ask for the teachers to accommodate them on a different day. Which is super shitty in my opinion.

Former teacher here. I agree with this. But since I’ve been a parent, I haven’t gone on vacations during teacher workdays. I have noticed a trend. Most teachers now don’t schedule conferences on the actual teacher workdays and tend to do them before or after school. I find this more inconvenient for parents. Before school is tough - who is watching my kids that early in the am and getting them ready to go to school if I’m at the conference? After school again doesn’t work. Who is watching my kids or getting them from the bus stop? I am a SAHM with no outside childcare help. The teacher workdays are much easier for me to utilize for conferences. I can leave my kids at home because their Dad works from home. But early mornings on a school day with him working? Won’t work.

I notice the teachers who get all their conferences done before the workdays aren’t at school on those workdays. Classroom is dark and their doors are locked. They are taking the day off without using leave of course.

How do you know they are taking the day off without using leave? That’s a pretty mean assumption.
I see in your post that you are mostly concerned about what’s most convenient for you. Sure. Who isn’t? Well, the teacher has to accommodate more families than just you. I’ve held conferences on the PT conference days as well as before school and after school. I bend over backwards to accommodate families, yours AND all the others. Perhaps before school is tough for you, but there are plenty of families who prefer that.

Because that’s how it works. I used to teach for FCPS and you don’t have to take leave on a teacher workday. Principal usually gives “flex” time. Meaning you can “work from home.” Yeah right. The reality is teachers go out to lunch and take off the rest of the day.

So..... going out to lunch means that you are a bad person? I'm so sorry for you. Seriously. Many/most professions have people go out to lunch. My sister in ad work (PWC) has mandatory off campus events like going to a museum and having lunch with colleagues. What a strange idea that going out to lunch with colleagues isn't working!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard teachers complaining about the opposite issue - they makes themselves available for PTC but the parents schedule 4 day mini vacations and then ask for the teachers to accommodate them on a different day. Which is super shitty in my opinion.

Former teacher here. I agree with this. But since I’ve been a parent, I haven’t gone on vacations during teacher workdays. I have noticed a trend. Most teachers now don’t schedule conferences on the actual teacher workdays and tend to do them before or after school. I find this more inconvenient for parents. Before school is tough - who is watching my kids that early in the am and getting them ready to go to school if I’m at the conference? After school again doesn’t work. Who is watching my kids or getting them from the bus stop? I am a SAHM with no outside childcare help. The teacher workdays are much easier for me to utilize for conferences. I can leave my kids at home because their Dad works from home. But early mornings on a school day with him working? Won’t work.

I notice the teachers who get all their conferences done before the workdays aren’t at school on those workdays. Classroom is dark and their doors are locked. They are taking the day off without using leave of course.

How do you know they are taking the day off without using leave? That’s a pretty mean assumption.
I see in your post that you are mostly concerned about what’s most convenient for you. Sure. Who isn’t? Well, the teacher has to accommodate more families than just you. I’ve held conferences on the PT conference days as well as before school and after school. I bend over backwards to accommodate families, yours AND all the others. Perhaps before school is tough for you, but there are plenty of families who prefer that.

Because that’s how it works. I used to teach for FCPS and you don’t have to take leave on a teacher workday. Principal usually gives “flex” time. Meaning you can “work from home.” Yeah right. The reality is teachers go out to lunch and take off the rest of the day.

So..... going out to lunch means that you are a bad person? I'm so sorry for you. Seriously. Many/most professions have people go out to lunch. My sister in ad work (PWC) has mandatory off campus events like going to a museum and having lunch with colleagues. What a strange idea that going out to lunch with colleagues isn't working!?

My husband goes out to lunch with clients or colleagues most days. He never understands how we survive on 20 min lunches and can’t ever leave because there isn’t time. That post was funny, that’s it’s not a work day because teachers may be in restaurants at lunch.

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So..... going out to lunch means that you are a bad person? I'm so sorry for you. Seriously. Many/most professions have people go out to lunch. My sister in ad work (PWC) has mandatory off campus events like going to a museum and having lunch with colleagues. What a strange idea that going out to lunch with colleagues isn't working!?



My husband goes out to lunch with clients or colleagues most days. He never understands how we survive on 20 min lunches and can’t ever leave because there isn’t time. That post was funny, that’s it’s not a work day because teachers may be in restaurants at lunch.

Further proof that parents view teachers as their hired help, not as professionals that might have working lunches. And they wonder why people don't want to do this job.

[Anonymous]

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So..... going out to lunch means that you are a bad person? I'm so sorry for you. Seriously. Many/most professions have people go out to lunch. My sister in ad work (PWC) has mandatory off campus events like going to a museum and having lunch with colleagues. What a strange idea that going out to lunch with colleagues isn't working!?



My husband goes out to lunch with clients or colleagues most days. He never understands how we survive on 20 min lunches and can’t ever leave because there isn’t time. That post was funny, that’s it’s not a work day because teachers may be in restaurants at lunch.

Further proof that parents view teachers as their hired help, not as professionals that might have working lunches. And they wonder why people don't want to do this job.

I agree.
You don’t need to look any further than the thread where OP is criticizes for having the nerve to quit during the school year.

As for parent/teacher conference days, I dread them. It isn’t because of the conferences themselves, it’s because I have to schedule 10-12 hours of conferences in order to fit as many in as I can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


So..... going out to lunch means that you are a bad person? I'm so sorry for you. Seriously. Many/most professions have people go out to lunch. My sister in ad work (PWC) has mandatory off campus events like going to a museum and having lunch with colleagues. What a strange idea that going out to lunch with colleagues isn't working!?



My husband goes out to lunch with clients or colleagues most days. He never understands how we survive on 20 min lunches and can’t ever leave because there isn’t time. That post was funny, that’s it’s not a work day because teachers may be in restaurants at lunch.

Further proof that parents view teachers as their hired help, not as professionals that might have working lunches. And they wonder why people don't want to do this job.

I agree.
You don’t need to look any further than the thread where OP is criticizes for having the nerve to quit during the school year.

As for parent/teacher conference days, I dread them. It isn’t because of the conferences themselves, it’s because I have to schedule 10-12 hours of conferences in order to fit as many in as I can.

What is a teacher's normal contracted work day? How many hours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dear lord, teachers can’t win. They take off a school day and people complain their child had a sub. They take off on a day they don’t have to prep lesson plans (and still offer the conferences!) and people complain then too.

Teachers are allowed to use their personal time off. If you want to meet with them find a time that works for both of your scheduless.

The entitlement and mindset of parents today is completely disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Be like ACPS- Make PTC days a day off, but tell all the affluent white families that they really don't need to have a conference with their kid's teacher anyway.

Please forfeit your turn so they can focus on 'those in need'