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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).


How do you propose a child do this exactly? Can you clarify how you think a child living in Baltimore can up and move to Potomac or Silver Spring as an ‘unaccompanied minor’?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).


How do you propose a child do this exactly? Can you clarify how you think a child living in Baltimore can up and move to Potomac or Silver Spring as an ‘unaccompanied minor’?


These unaccompanied minors’ parents spent thousands $$ to send their kids on a dangerous journey. If any parent in the US do it, they will be charged for child abuse. A parent in Baltimore may drop her kids in MoCo at a government facility. Hopefully, the go erment will send the kids to a family in Takoma Park and enroll them in MCPS. Later, their parent can join the mids.
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I would like to here teacher‘s point of view regarding the influx and how it impacts, if at all, the classroom.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).


How do you propose a child do this exactly? Can you clarify how you think a child living in Baltimore can up and move to Potomac or Silver Spring as an ‘unaccompanied minor’?


These unaccompanied minors’ parents spent thousands $$ to send their kids on a dangerous journey. If any parent in the US do it, they will be charged for child abuse. A parent in Baltimore may drop her kids in MoCo at a government facility. Hopefully, the go erment will send the kids to a family in Takoma Park and enroll them in MCPS. Later, their parent can join the mids.

That's the point.. American kids can "flee" inner cities a alot easier than unaccompanied minors can flee their homes. They can cross the city limit with their parents. We don't have redlining anymore. Why would the parent need to "drop their kids off in MoCo". They would just move with the kids.

Liberals support programs to help inner city kids (isn't that what Rs like to say is part of the problem - that the handouts is causing more issues); liberals support zoning laws that will build more affordable homes in suburbs (isn't that what Trump was using as a scare tactic to get suburban moms to vote for him)

If those kids in BC ended up in MoCo, you can bet that MoCo uber progressives would want to spend $$$ on those kids. Free everything.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).


How do you propose a child do this exactly? Can you clarify how you think a child living in Baltimore can up and move to Potomac or Silver Spring as an ‘unaccompanied minor’?


These unaccompanied minors’ parents spent thousands $$ to send their kids on a dangerous journey. If any parent in the US do it, they will be charged for child abuse. A parent in Baltimore may drop her kids in MoCo at a government facility. Hopefully, the go erment will send the kids to a family in Takoma Park and enroll them in MCPS. Later, their parent can join the mids.

That's the point.. American kids can "flee" inner cities a alot easier than unaccompanied minors can flee their homes. They can cross the city limit with their parents. We don't have redlining anymore. Why would the parent need to "drop their kids off in MoCo". They would just move with the kids.

Liberals support programs to help inner city kids (isn't that what Rs like to say is part of the problem - that the handouts is causing more issues); liberals support zoning laws that will build more affordable homes in suburbs (isn't that what Trump was using as a scare tactic to get suburban moms to vote for him)

If those kids in BC ended up in MoCo, you can bet that MoCo uber progressives would want to spend $$$ on those kids. Free everything.


The problem is that these poor families have a safe house in BC already but have no place to live in MC. If they send their kids to MoCo, the government or nonprofit will help these kids to settle in MC and sign them up for school, just like the kids from the south. I am sure there are enough families in Bethesda, CC,or Rockville will open there home to these kids. If the county can welcome kids from other countries , they should love the kids from the neighboring city.
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Anonymous wrote:Glad we are taking them. Imagine how bad their lives were if their parents were willing to risk everything to send them here.


Meanwhile 0% of American children in Baltimore have no proficiency in basic math, live in squalor, and didn't even have heating in their schools. Yes, I'm oh so glad we continue to take in thkusands and millions of citizens from other countries while our own citizens suffer. Imagine how bad our own child citizens lives are in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. There are American kids who grow up everyday without running water, food, or stable housing. Sorry for not caring about other countries' citizens at the moment.


Stop making up stuff.


While I think PP is a massive jerk on the immigration issue, it is true that there are millions of Americans without running water. "More than 2.2 million Americans still don’t have running water or basic plumbing, like a flush toilet. 44 million more don’t have clean water that’s safe to drink."

You can both help by donating here: https://www.digdeep.org/our-work
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Then maybe we should fix the immigration and refugee problem that leads to the children being unaccompanied so that their tax-paying, labor-providing parents come along, too. Seems like a win-win. In addition to not being terrible.



Seal the border and enforce the law. Very simple.


Yes, let’s pretend there’s not a humanitarian crises in central and parts South America, some of which the US helped to foment and the problems will solve themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).


How do you propose a child do this exactly? Can you clarify how you think a child living in Baltimore can up and move to Potomac or Silver Spring as an ‘unaccompanied minor’?


These unaccompanied minors’ parents spent thousands $$ to send their kids on a dangerous journey. If any parent in the US do it, they will be charged for child abuse. A parent in Baltimore may drop her kids in MoCo at a government facility. Hopefully, the go erment will send the kids to a family in Takoma Park and enroll them in MCPS. Later, their parent can join the mids.


These are parents acting in sheer desperation afraid for their children’s lives. Imagine the desperation it would take for you to send your child to the US, unaccompanied, springing all of your life savings. If we approached this issue as the humanitarian crisis it is instead of treating these people like unwanted insects we might actually address the violence and poverty that had prompted parents to take this step.
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Anonymous wrote:And guess where the unaccompanied minors end up going to school? They end up at schools with already high FARMS and resource constraints impacting the students attending those schools. It's not like they're going to Churchill.


Resource constraints? Per student more $ flow into these schools from LEA local funding formulas than schools with lower % of FARMS or ELS. The federal govt pays less than $80/year for SLIFE- new to USA English language learners with limited or interrupted formal schooling. FX and PG have received more UAM than MOCO over the last decade and UAM did increase after DACA. The DMV as a region longitudinally rivals the states of Texas and California. Good news for the DMV could happen because some politicians from states like Illinois have larger impacts under Biden. Cook County - Chicago got 972 while in the same period PG alone got 1678. Maybe the Feds will finally pay up to school districts because others also now get impacts?

Most UAM released to sponsors are teenagers and sponsors range from anyone that the sending minor or adult might know of to an uncle or parent. All are additions to existing households so it's not a proffer situation where a developer kicks in cash if they are building new that would yield over 1000 students.

So high impact states like MD, VA, etc should adjust school accrediation stuff like drop out rates, attendance, and funding formulas. No Tim Kaine sneak maneuvers. During the last months of Tim Kaine's tenure as Gov of VA he wanted to cut NOVA funding and invalidate state funding formulas despite the massive influx. 75 million.

How to expand capacity rapidly for a school district? That is hard to do considering the timelines on bonds and construction. FCPS went to the extraordinary measure of retrofitting an office building to make Bailey's Upper School.




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Anonymous wrote:Every single person living here had a distant relative immigrate here to get away from some hellish situation back home. Where is your compassion for humanity? I am horrified by the responses and hope you are but a few trolls and not what most of the county thinks/believes.


Oh, that’s not true at all.

I live in Silver Spring and my kids go to a Title 1 School, so we are friendly with several undocumented families and they are our neighbors.

They are not escaping some ‘hellish’ situation. They came here to make some cash. Money. That’s it. That’s the motivation. And they go back every few years, so they are clearly not afraid of being in their countries.

It is only a very, very small percentage of asylum seekers who are truly afraid to live in their own countries. Many of the them are simply looking for better economic opportunities.


Not to mention that this logic basically says that we have to admit and subsidize the life of anyone in the world who wants to come because we all had an immigrant ancestor somewhere in the past. No, that's not how nation-states work.
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me guess. Higher taxes soon because there are no more seats in our schools, amirite?


MCPS has 162,680 students. 1,200 unaccompanied minors is less than 1%. If there are no more seats it is hardly the fault of these kids.


Except thaat's in less than one year with no end in sight.. Multiply the problem by 10 years. Illegal immigration has been going on for decades in MoCo and it is already straining the county's resources. That's 1,200 more seats taxpayers have to pay for to educate foreign nationals from another country. Every dollar spent on another country's child is a dollar not spent on our own children.


Before this goes any further, as an international family, I have to ask you to use the term "undocumented immigrant".

My children have dual citizenship. We are foreigners on visas living in Bethesda and pay all our taxes here. Most foreigners in this area are here LEGALLY and pay into the system. The next time you see a child with an accent in your children's school, don't assume they are undocumented.

Also, as someone who has had to jump through an incredible number of ridiculously complex and expensive hoops to stay legally in this country, I harbor no resentment whatsoever against innocent CHILDREN. They have fled gang violence and extreme poverty, I don't blame their parents either for doing their best to ensure a better future for them.

The USA has the means to welcome immigrants of all types. It has the space. It's true our MoCo public schools are burdened right now, but as someone involved in PTA efforts, I can tell you that the burden comes from domestic influx into certain specific areas of Montgomery County. Not foreign.







What are you blathering about? No one cares about immigrants here LEGALLY. My dad is a naturalized citizen who followed the law for immigration. So is my wife. The problem are illegal immigrants. No, I will not use 'undocumented immigrants' to describe people who break our laws, because that's the very definition of illegal immigration. I literally have POC blood running through my veins, because of my dad. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration.

Under what world laws are countries supposed to open their borders to those fleeing crime and poverty? Newsflash: there's about 4 billion people in the world who'd fit that bill. So what, is the US a few countries in Europe, Australia, NZ, Canada, South Korea, Japan and a few other countries supposed to let in billions of people with no control? It is not the responsibility of first world nations to open their borders every time a person wants to flee crime and poverty from their home country. Countries need to fix themselves through effective governments and a well built economy. There are no laws whatsoever that require countries to offer asylum to people fleeing crime. If people want better opportunities to escape poverty and crime, they can apply with the UCIS just like everyone else. Just like my dad. Just like my wife.

Pffff, Chicago and Baltimore have murder rates on par with Iraq. Why aren't you screaming about offering children who grow up in those cities asylum from their own damn poverty?

DP.. there are a ton of programs in the US for low income kids. If they want to escape a war zone by crossing city lines, they can do so. We don't have redlining today.

If you going to equate the two situations, then that means these inner city kids should be sent across city lines on their own, and the county should pay for their services (which they already do in their current city).


How do you propose a child do this exactly? Can you clarify how you think a child living in Baltimore can up and move to Potomac or Silver Spring as an ‘unaccompanied minor’?


These unaccompanied minors’ parents spent thousands $$ to send their kids on a dangerous journey. If any parent in the US do it, they will be charged for child abuse. A parent in Baltimore may drop her kids in MoCo at a government facility. Hopefully, the go erment will send the kids to a family in Takoma Park and enroll them in MCPS. Later, their parent can join the mids.

That's the point.. American kids can "flee" inner cities a alot easier than unaccompanied minors can flee their homes. They can cross the city limit with their parents. We don't have redlining anymore. Why would the parent need to "drop their kids off in MoCo". They would just move with the kids.

Liberals support programs to help inner city kids (isn't that what Rs like to say is part of the problem - that the handouts is causing more issues); liberals support zoning laws that will build more affordable homes in suburbs (isn't that what Trump was using as a scare tactic to get suburban moms to vote for him)

If those kids in BC ended up in MoCo, you can bet that MoCo uber progressives would want to spend $$$ on those kids. Free everything.


The problem is that these poor families have a safe house in BC already but have no place to live in MC. If they send their kids to MoCo, the government or nonprofit will help these kids to settle in MC and sign them up for school, just like the kids from the south. I am sure there are enough families in Bethesda, CC,or Rockville will open there home to these kids. If the county can welcome kids from other countries , they should love the kids from the neighboring city.


This is not true. If it were we wouldn’t have a shortage of good foster homes for the kids born in this country. Let’s be honest about this: liberals who are okay with unaccompanied minors don’t send their kids to the same schools as them. And they certainly don’t open their homes to kids in the foster care system, let alone a child ‘fleeing’ Baltimore. I don’t have strong opinions on this issue but this is a mischaracterization of families in wealthy communities.
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