How are your kids' fall iready scores?

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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.
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Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?


How do you find out what the intervention cut off is? My child scored very low in both math and reading.


2 or more grade levels below
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


In comparison the Reading percentiles (again, FWIW):

90th-99th percentile: 7 students
81st-89th: 6 students
60th-71st: 7 students
42nd-52nd: 4 students
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


NP. Is this usual? Or a wider spread than usual, or higher or lower numbers?
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


NP. Is this usual? Or a wider spread than usual, or higher or lower numbers?


It's not too far off of previous years, but we haven't had many years of i-Ready. I'd say the numbers at the lower end are a little higher. Typically a few more are at or below the 39th percentile.
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Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?


What is the intervention score? is it the overall score or the individual scores?


DP - on DC's score sheet, it states 39 percentile is the intervention score. DC scored in the 20s percentile and has an IEP. DC also failed Spring SOLs. I'm concerned because according to the teacher and IEP progress reports, DC is doing well and making sufficient progress.


Your child needs additional help. I would be asking for an conference and ask why the scores are showing something so different then what the teacher is saying and what they are going to be doing to address the issues. I worry that some Teachers are trying to present a more pretty picture this year.

My question on the intervention is more if a child has one score that is below expectations but is overall, above the 39th percentile, do they receive intervention in the area that they are below expectations.

I would be pissed if I were you and the school was not offering interventions, your child is screaming for help in the exams. Your concern tells me that you are tracking that there is an issue. I hope that your child has their needs addressed.


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I’d keep in mind that this is only one assessment. Is it possible the child is making adequate progress towards IEP goals while at the same time scoring below the 39th percentile? I imagine so.
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DC also failed 2 out of 3 SOLs last Spring even though again, the teachers and IEP progress reports states that DC was doing well for last year and 1st quarter of this year. I'm going to request an IEP meeting. They are either saying DC is doing well so they don't provide additional interventions or the current IEP goals do not reflect areas that DC needs help in.


Why do you even believe the school at this point? Take matters into your own hands and don’t just rely on them. Get your kid a tutor for God’s sake!


Tutoring in the DC area, especially for special ed students is about $60-90/hour. Some parents cannot afford that. It is not acceptable that the school is telling a parent the student is doing very well but the students in failing or below grade levels on all their assessments.


But if a student is so far below the norms, the parent is going to have to step up outside of school and make sacrifices to get the extra help. A kid can’t get it all at school in a large group setting.


Do you know how much money that is? Some people really can't. I can and do afford it, but it shouldn't have to be all up to parents. Schools are really failing students.


This is part of being a parent. If it was a medical issue, you would also have to step up financially. If your kid has a severe LD, you must sacrifice and step up and find a way to pay for extra help, just like if it were a serious medical issue.


You are really out of touch. Many families can’t afford healthcare, they receive government assistance for that. Please, oh please, tell me how those families are supposed to find and pay for tutors. Please.

I just can’t with people like you who think everyone is just like them.
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


In comparison the Reading percentiles (again, FWIW):

90th-99th percentile: 7 students
81st-89th: 6 students
60th-71st: 7 students
42nd-52nd: 4 students


So what about the kids under 39th? Do they really get intervention, or just another math group?
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


In comparison the Reading percentiles (again, FWIW):

90th-99th percentile: 7 students
81st-89th: 6 students
60th-71st: 7 students
42nd-52nd: 4 students


So what about the kids under 39th? Do they really get intervention, or just another math group?


My child is at what is considered a good school and her percentile is below all those (27 math, 35 reading). This is 1st grade.
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Anonymous wrote:About the same as last year but I am trying to understand what to do with them.

DS was in the 95th percentile for reading (yeah) but below expectations for Phonological Awareness. (boo) So what do I do about the Phonological Awareness issue? I will probably set up a conference with his Teacher. I am happy with his overall progress but this seems to be a major area that is apparently behind and I would like to know how to support his improvement in this area.

And then I figure I sound crazy because overall he is doing great. But I don't want him to not get the support he needs in an important area in LA.


My friend told me her son once did this part of the test with the speaker turned way down so he couldn’t hear what was being said.


I have LDs and have been worried about similar issues for DS so this feeds into my concerns. I prefer your explanation. I do think I will talk to his Teacher


Most likey they will think you sound crazy, but pursue it anyway, which will probably mean on your own because the school won't care. Ask me how I know. But I also know your gut is extremely likely to be correct that some extra help is needed, particularly with the genetic component.

See also my All About Reading comment above. Reading Rockets has some helpful blogs and videos, too. Garforth Education to explain differ terms to you if you don't know them already.

Educate yourself on science of reading and know that most teachers were not taught this stuff.


*different terms
Phonemic awareness, phonological awareness, etc.


Those terms all mean different things. Some are part of the other
-different All About Learning loving parent
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Anonymous wrote:Please understand that this test is not in line with the county’s curriculum. It is meant to be a screener. It also is a poor format for a test, because if kids get bored or accidentally hit the wrong answer and can’t fix it, it looks like they did worse than they really are capable of. I have seen so many kids just skim the screen and pick an answer to get it over with, especially they think recess time is coming and they might miss it. They won’t, but they think that. This kind of test really depends on the motivation and work habits of the kid, and especially for math, if they took the time to use scrap paper to write a problem out. Don’t panic about these scores.

If you are really concerned, ask for a parent conference and ask to see work samples of what your kid can do in class.

I’ve never seen a teacher pay much attention to these test scores, because we know it’s a poor assessment. The conscientious kids do well, and the others just click away to get done.


OK, but if the scores are drastically different county-wide this year, that says something about how the county's curriculum is performing or how poorly kids did with virtual and hybrid. Did not having teacher led instruction on Mondays hurt? If the scores are generally lower, then maybe it did. That sort of thing.

Individually it may mean squat, but at an entire district level compared to 2019 it means something.
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


In comparison the Reading percentiles (again, FWIW):

90th-99th percentile: 7 students
81st-89th: 6 students
60th-71st: 7 students
42nd-52nd: 4 students


So what about the kids under 39th? Do they really get intervention, or just another math group?


If my kid was under 39th, I would for sure be asking, especially if I haven't heard yet.
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Anonymous wrote:If your kid scored below the intervention cut-off, have you heard what the intervention of plan is?


How do you find out what the intervention cut off is? My child scored very low in both math and reading.


2 or more grade levels below


It said 39th percentile in the parent letter on iReady, for either.
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Anonymous wrote:Please understand that this test is not in line with the county’s curriculum. It is meant to be a screener. It also is a poor format for a test, because if kids get bored or accidentally hit the wrong answer and can’t fix it, it looks like they did worse than they really are capable of. I have seen so many kids just skim the screen and pick an answer to get it over with, especially they think recess time is coming and they might miss it. They won’t, but they think that. This kind of test really depends on the motivation and work habits of the kid, and especially for math, if they took the time to use scrap paper to write a problem out. Don’t panic about these scores.

If you are really concerned, ask for a parent conference and ask to see work samples of what your kid can do in class.

I’ve never seen a teacher pay much attention to these test scores, because we know it’s a poor assessment. The conscientious kids do well, and the others just click away to get done.


OK, but if the scores are drastically different county-wide this year, that says something about how the county's curriculum is performing or how poorly kids did with virtual and hybrid. Did not having teacher led instruction on Mondays hurt? If the scores are generally lower, then maybe it did. That sort of thing.

Individually it may mean squat, but at an entire district level compared to 2019 it means something.


Scores are always vastly different. Schools serving more FARMs students have lower scores in iReady and the SOLs, and probably any other screener that they might use, then schools serving fewer FARMS students. It tells us exactly what we already know, kids who come from families with money and/or educated parents do better in school then kids from poorer families and whose parents are not educated.

Kids from wealthier and or better educated families had more enrichment at home because their parents could afford to provide and/or could provide it on their own. They read to their kids, played number games with their kids, and probably found different experiences that were educational in some fashion. Their kids started kindergarten knowing their letters and numbers, probably writing or reading a bit,. They knew their shapes and colors. They probably attended a preschool and knew the basics of classroom behavior.

Kids from poorer and/or less educated families probably did not know their letters, numbers, shapes, or colors when they started Kindergarten. They probably did not know how to behave in a classroom. They start school behind the kids from wealthier families.

But we know this.

I would guess that the already existing gaps grew after last year.
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Anonymous wrote:Please understand that this test is not in line with the county’s curriculum. It is meant to be a screener. It also is a poor format for a test, because if kids get bored or accidentally hit the wrong answer and can’t fix it, it looks like they did worse than they really are capable of. I have seen so many kids just skim the screen and pick an answer to get it over with, especially they think recess time is coming and they might miss it. They won’t, but they think that. This kind of test really depends on the motivation and work habits of the kid, and especially for math, if they took the time to use scrap paper to write a problem out. Don’t panic about these scores.

If you are really concerned, ask for a parent conference and ask to see work samples of what your kid can do in class.

I’ve never seen a teacher pay much attention to these test scores, because we know it’s a poor assessment. The conscientious kids do well, and the others just click away to get done.


OK, but if the scores are drastically different county-wide this year, that says something about how the county's curriculum is performing or how poorly kids did with virtual and hybrid. Did not having teacher led instruction on Mondays hurt? If the scores are generally lower, then maybe it did. That sort of thing.

Individually it may mean squat, but at an entire district level compared to 2019 it means something.


Scores are always vastly different. Schools serving more FARMs students have lower scores in iReady and the SOLs, and probably any other screener that they might use, then schools serving fewer FARMS students. It tells us exactly what we already know, kids who come from families with money and/or educated parents do better in school then kids from poorer families and whose parents are not educated.

Kids from wealthier and or better educated families had more enrichment at home because their parents could afford to provide and/or could provide it on their own. They read to their kids, played number games with their kids, and probably found different experiences that were educational in some fashion. Their kids started kindergarten knowing their letters and numbers, probably writing or reading a bit,. They knew their shapes and colors. They probably attended a preschool and knew the basics of classroom behavior.

Kids from poorer and/or less educated families probably did not know their letters, numbers, shapes, or colors when they started Kindergarten. They probably did not know how to behave in a classroom. They start school behind the kids from wealthier families.

But we know this.

I would guess that the already existing gaps grew after last year.


The number of FARMs students did not change that much between 2019 and now. So if the whole county sees a drop in scores or an increase in kids below the intervention level, something county-wide caused a change. Maybe something like basically canceling school in spring 2020 and having only 4 days of school all last year, much of that not in the building. Maybe...

You'd need the full data to tell.
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Anonymous wrote:1658: grade level and school (school pyramid at least)? AAP or LI?


Grade 3. Not AAP or LI (language immersion?). I just happened to be in looking at I-Ready today for math groups.


In comparison the Reading percentiles (again, FWIW):

90th-99th percentile: 7 students
81st-89th: 6 students
60th-71st: 7 students
42nd-52nd: 4 students


So what about the kids under 39th? Do they really get intervention, or just another math group?


If my kid was under 39th, I would for sure be asking, especially if I haven't heard yet.


An additional small group time is an intervention.
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