Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does one "accidentally" shoot two people? Wouldn't you stop after shooting the first person?

Blanks are only deadly at close range, why was Alec pointing a gun at the these people at such close range? Why was Alec pointing a gun at the DP and Director anyway?

Lots of questions to be answered here.

There was a comment up thread about how in rare cases something strange my occur in the pro gun that splits ammo and makes two projectiles out of what was believed to be a blank. I don't understand guns, but it seems like this is a case of negligence and utterly stupid recklessness in handling this serious prop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m no Alec fan but the photos of him traumatized at the sheriff’s office were incredibly invasive and insensitive. Shame on the photographers and the people who published them.

I’m sure this fool staged them. Stand by fir his fake Spanish wife to announce a sympathy pregnancy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a thought, if the prop director and safety people walked off the set in protest, could they have sabotaged the gun to make their point? I hope I'm wrong.

OMG please examine your extreme bias.

towards what? Thinking outside the box?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does one "accidentally" shoot two people? Wouldn't you stop after shooting the first person?

Blanks are only deadly at close range, why was Alec pointing a gun at the these people at such close range? Why was Alec pointing a gun at the DP and Director anyway?

Lots of questions to be answered here.

Likely the camera was positioned directly at the end of the barrel of the gun. Alec would need to point the gun so they can position camera, take light readings, etc. They may have been rehearsing the scene, and told him to fire the blank so they could fine tune camera & light settings.

For every image like this, you have a camera & probably 5-6 people with the gun aimed at them:

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does one "accidentally" shoot two people? Wouldn't you stop after shooting the first person?

Blanks are only deadly at close range, why was Alec pointing a gun at the these people at such close range? Why was Alec pointing a gun at the DP and Director anyway?

Lots of questions to be answered here.

Likely the camera was positioned directly at the end of the barrel of the gun. Alec would need to point the gun so they can position camera, take light readings, etc. They may have been rehearsing the scene, and told him to fire the blank so they could fine tune camera & light settings.

For every image like this, you have a camera & probably 5-6 people with the gun aimed at them:

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone had to bring a live round onto the set. And that’s likely going to be the prop master or a special firearms handler.

Whoever that person is will be examined very closely - what they did, their political views, etc. It will not surprise me at all if some lunatic did this on purpose.

No, they were using blanks. You can kill someone with a blank if the wadding or plug in the gun are loose and are projectiled out just like with a real bullet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actor W. Earl Brown details strict weapon protocols:


"In the aftermath of Jon Erik Hexum, the dedicated crew job of Weapons Handler was created — someone whose sole responsibility is overseeing any and all firearms used on a movie set.

In the aftermath of Brandon Lee, the rules got much stricter and oversight increased.

For rehearsals, we are given rubber weapons.

When it is necessary for a real weapon to be used, the weapons handler clears the chamber, the cylinder, the clip, etc… anywhere a projectile can lodge is checked. If dummy bullets are required, each shell is checked before loading…

This process is then checked by an assistant director or director and then by any actors involved in the scene. The weapon is usually dry fired.

At all times, treat every weapon as if it’s loaded — barrel down, uncocked, finger off trigger.

If a live Blank is required, it is loaded at the last minute. The presence of a live round is always announced so that everyone knows the size of the load and that the round is live.
"
As soon as “Cut” is called, the weapon is to be returned to the Handler. No exceptions.

Those are the Rules."

https://twitter.com/WEarlBrown

Why not just always use rubber weapons and add firing with CGI?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to put this here:

1) How did he shoot a cinematographer and director? He would not have been acting so was using a prop improperly outside of filming.
2) How did the second person get shot? It's not like a rapid-fire prop.
3) Clearly someone called paparazzi to show up at the police station and folks he's a great actor, he turned it on for the photos. This is in the middle of Fing nowhere NM. Where did the paps come from? Definitely seems like a set up by his agent.

Something doesn't smell right at all. If it wasn't intentional it was definitely irresponsible.

I think you're right that something doesn't sit right. I really doubt he did it intentionally. But it's just an unusual, freak accident type event, that something is probably wrong here. I guess we will know when the police finish their investigation.

[Anonymous]

Also, Alec has been posting about how exhausted and overworked he and the crew were. He's the producer. I think Alec may be in for either criminal or civil liability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m no Alec fan but the photos of him traumatized at the sheriff’s office were incredibly invasive and insensitive. Shame on the photographers and the people who published them.

I’m sure this fool staged them. Stand by fir his fake Spanish wife to announce a sympathy pregnancy.

The photographer is likely a low paid rural cop who knew he could make a bunch of money by selling photos to TMZ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does one "accidentally" shoot two people? Wouldn't you stop after shooting the first person?

Blanks are only deadly at close range, why was Alec pointing a gun at the these people at such close range? Why was Alec pointing a gun at the DP and Director anyway?

Lots of questions to be answered here.

Likely the camera was positioned directly at the end of the barrel of the gun. Alec would need to point the gun so they can position camera, take light readings, etc. They may have been rehearsing the scene, and told him to fire the blank so they could fine tune camera & light settings.

For every image like this, you have a camera & probably 5-6 people with the gun aimed at them:

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/heat.jpg" border="0" class="embeddedImage" />

But then why wasn't a camera man injured?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does one "accidentally" shoot two people? Wouldn't you stop after shooting the first person?

Blanks are only deadly at close range, why was Alec pointing a gun at the these people at such close range? Why was Alec pointing a gun at the DP and Director anyway?

Lots of questions to be answered here.

Likely the camera was positioned directly at the end of the barrel of the gun. Alec would need to point the gun so they can position camera, take light readings, etc. They may have been rehearsing the scene, and told him to fire the blank so they could fine tune camera & light settings.

For every image like this, you have a camera & probably 5-6 people with the gun aimed at them:

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/heat.jpg" border="0" class="embeddedImage" />

But then why wasn't a camera man injured?

The cinematographer was killed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does one "accidentally" shoot two people? Wouldn't you stop after shooting the first person?

Blanks are only deadly at close range, why was Alec pointing a gun at the these people at such close range? Why was Alec pointing a gun at the DP and Director anyway?

Lots of questions to be answered here.

Likely the camera was positioned directly at the end of the barrel of the gun. Alec would need to point the gun so they can position camera, take light readings, etc. They may have been rehearsing the scene, and told him to fire the blank so they could fine tune camera & light settings.

For every image like this, you have a camera & probably 5-6 people with the gun aimed at them:

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/heat.jpg" border="0" class="embeddedImage" />

But then why wasn't a camera man injured?

What you think the Director of Photography/Cinematographer does? 🤦🏼‍♂️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actor W. Earl Brown details strict weapon protocols:


"In the aftermath of Jon Erik Hexum, the dedicated crew job of Weapons Handler was created — someone whose sole responsibility is overseeing any and all firearms used on a movie set.

In the aftermath of Brandon Lee, the rules got much stricter and oversight increased.

For rehearsals, we are given rubber weapons.

When it is necessary for a real weapon to be used, the weapons handler clears the chamber, the cylinder, the clip, etc… anywhere a projectile can lodge is checked. If dummy bullets are required, each shell is checked before loading…

This process is then checked by an assistant director or director and then by any actors involved in the scene. The weapon is usually dry fired.

At all times, treat every weapon as if it’s loaded — barrel down, uncocked, finger off trigger.

If a live Blank is required, it is loaded at the last minute. The presence of a live round is always announced so that everyone knows the size of the load and that the round is live.
"
As soon as “Cut” is called, the weapon is to be returned to the Handler. No exceptions.

Those are the Rules."

https://twitter.com/WEarlBrown

Why not just always use rubber weapons and add firing with CGI?

I agree. Especially from now on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow…I can’t even imagine what’s going through this poor guys head right now…

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wow... curse of donald?