Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just say, as a person with Palestinian family members who have suffered at the hands of the IDF, that the tide has really turned with respect to this issue and I see it everywhere. The way this was discussed 10 years ago versus now is night and day; and I appreciate how well-informed and diligent you all are when it comes to this topic. I appreciate all of you.

You appreciate extremists who support taking civilian hostages? Alrighty then.

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Scenes like this make me sick. Hamas are animals.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just say, as a person with Palestinian family members who have suffered at the hands of the IDF, that the tide has really turned with respect to this issue and I see it everywhere. The way this was discussed 10 years ago versus now is night and day; and I appreciate how well-informed and diligent you all are when it comes to this topic. I appreciate all of you.

You appreciate extremists who support taking civilian hostages? Alrighty then.

Do you appreciate the IDF who routinely targets young girls, children and women? Do you appreciate the fact that my 16 year old cousin was raped by IDF soldiers in 2021? Is that what you support? Do you think those men will ever face justice? Do you think that type of horrific abuse should just be endured in perpetuity?

Go fu*k yourself honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Scenes like this make me sick. Hamas are animals.

And this. An 80 year old man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I just say, as a person with Palestinian family members who have suffered at the hands of the IDF, that the tide has really turned with respect to this issue and I see it everywhere. The way this was discussed 10 years ago versus now is night and day; and I appreciate how well-informed and diligent you all are when it comes to this topic. I appreciate all of you.

One side of this discussion is quite agreeable to slugging it out over the facts. After all, it’s easy to argue the facts and the actual history (vs. the Hasbara and the fairytales that fuel the genocidal impulses on the other side) when dealing with such a lopsided conflict.

Meanwhile, that other side is immoral, fundamentally dishonest, and literally examines every post critical of Israel’s policies and actions, and wonders frantically how they can get some reckless true believer in the IC to jeopardize their own career by investigating someone like you - for merely expressing appreciation for the humanity of others.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just say, as a person with Palestinian family members who have suffered at the hands of the IDF, that the tide has really turned with respect to this issue and I see it everywhere. The way this was discussed 10 years ago versus now is night and day; and I appreciate how well-informed and diligent you all are when it comes to this topic. I appreciate all of you.

You appreciate extremists who support taking civilian hostages? Alrighty then.

Do you appreciate the IDF who routinely targets young girls, children and women? Do you appreciate the fact that my 16 year old cousin was raped by IDF soldiers in 2021? Is that what you support? Do you think those men will ever face justice? Do you think that type of horrific abuse should just be endured in perpetuity?

Go fu*k yourself honestly.

Where is your proof that the IDF targets women and children? Targets them for what, exactly?

I’m truly sorry if your cousin was sexually assaulted. You can also be sorry that civilians from Israel were taken hostage, sexually assaulted, and murdered, and that Palestinians celebrate and participate in that massacre. You yourself seem to celebrate it.

I am sorry that Hamas uses civilians as human shields. Aside from Israeli policy, Palestinians have never used any resources or sympathy to better their outcomes. They use it to fund terrorism and perpetuate hatred, and for that reason, nothing will ever change. Part of the reason right wingism has thrived in Israel in recent decades is because Palestinians keep proving they have no interest in coexisting peacefully with Israel. Both sides need to accept a two state solution, and extremists like you are a part of the problem, not the solution.

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Anonymous wrote:The next time I read anyone bemoaning the discomfort of the Gazans, I will remind myself of the latter's riotous behavior as the latest handful of hostages were released. If there ever was a case to be made for genocide, think Palestinians.

It really is obscene. I will never understand why so many Palestinians support Hamas. A bunch of thugs that bring nothing but misery. Watching these militants swarm those young women hostages was appalling. And this is what Palestinians regard as a victory. It's pathetic.

Not only pathetic, it's actually reflective of innate evil, given the predictable destruction wrought upon the civilian population as a result of their perverse creed and their completely feckless commitment to terrorism as an instrument of change. Until the Palestinians decisively reject Hamas, its political philosophy, and its immorality, and replace it with something civilized, history will continue to repeat itself at their expense and to their sorrow.

Palestinians have the right to use violence to resist foreign occupation.

However your comment is showing a lack of regard for the violent genocide and ethnic cleaning of Palestinians by Israel. Israel is committing crimes against humanity, that govt is a violent apartheid regime.

Israel murdered at least 50,000 Gazans. Do people expect the Palestinians to be grateful to Israel? Not very realistic.

Notably absent in your continual scurrilous antisemitic diatribes is any alternative explanation for how Israel should have responded to Oct. 7. It would seem that in lieu of vituperative attacks on the victims, you could at least offer your insights into what a reasonable reaction would have been to the Palestinian terror attacks of Oct. 7, keeping in mind the continuing attacks by Hamas thereafter until they were forced to capitulate and release the hostages. That abject surrender occurred only after Gaza was largely flattened, and civilian support for Hamas eroded, all thanks to the retaliatory actions of the IDF.

We can be confident that absent those retaliatory actions, the living hostages would still be held by the barbarians who took them. Barbarians who, not incidentally, are Palestinian.

So spare us your sniveling.

Tell us how Palestinians should respond to military occupation without triggering your wrath. What is the appropriate response to land grab? Sad songs?

They were quite on their own within Gaza, with no "military occupation" apart from Hamas, before they decided to rampage through the music festival.

Avoid the answer if you like, it demonstrates the absence of any rationale for Palestinian terror behavior. Because their cannot be any rationale for terror which civilized people can accept.

Explain to us why the acts of terrorism committed by David Ben-Gurion and his fellow terrorists in the Lehi, Irgun, Stern Gang, etc. are acceptable to you?

For that matter, explain to us why the acts of terrorism committed by America’s founding fathers are acceptable to you?

We’ll wait …

DP, but surely you’re not out there calling the founding fathers genocidal and demanding the current US be wiped out, are you?

No. And I’m not calling for Israel to be wiped out, either. In case you missed the abstract, I’m for “nobody being wiped out, including Palestinians”.

I’ve said from the minute I weighed in that massive reform is the only solution in Israel. I stand by that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Scenes like this make me sick. Hamas are animals.

Why didn't IDF collect the hostage, and then start shooting and kill them right then and there?

They dropped the hostage off in a SUV like it was Uber.

You do realize these animals are who Israel wants in charge. They do not want a pro America moderate Palestinian to lead there. It's their worst nightmare to have Palestine and America be aligned which is why I personally hope a Palestinian becomes President of USA over a Zionist. It would be the best karma to a country that deserves some karma for how its played the US and Palestinians for years. "America is something I can easily understand/control" "Hamas is something that's our asset, in our hands"

Quotes by Netanyahu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Scenes like this make me sick. Hamas are animals.

These hostages are alive.
They get to hug their families.

IDF and Israeli settlers are animals for cheering and celebrating death and destruction to toddlers and newborns.

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The IDF did nothing on 10/7 and did not enter one Israeli house to get any of these poor hostages/their countrymen and women and and they once again get gun shy on shooting Hamas letting an entire MOB direct her back to Israel.

They can blast a 5 year old's brain onto the pavement and carpet bomb a playground but cant somehow find the trigger to attack actual Hamas?
Something is not right here. WHO are these masked Hamas guys truly?

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just say, as a person with Palestinian family members who have suffered at the hands of the IDF, that the tide has really turned with respect to this issue and I see it everywhere. The way this was discussed 10 years ago versus now is night and day; and I appreciate how well-informed and diligent you all are when it comes to this topic. I appreciate all of you.

You appreciate extremists who support taking civilian hostages? Alrighty then.

Do you appreciate the IDF who routinely targets young girls, children and women? Do you appreciate the fact that my 16 year old cousin was raped by IDF soldiers in 2021? Is that what you support? Do you think those men will ever face justice? Do you think that type of horrific abuse should just be endured in perpetuity?

Go fu*k yourself honestly.

Where is your proof that the IDF targets women and children? Targets them for what, exactly?

I’m truly sorry if your cousin was sexually assaulted. You can also be sorry that civilians from Israel were taken hostage, sexually assaulted, and murdered, and that Palestinians celebrate and participate in that massacre. You yourself seem to celebrate it.

I am sorry that Hamas uses civilians as human shields. Aside from Israeli policy, Palestinians have never used any resources or sympathy to better their outcomes. They use it to fund terrorism and perpetuate hatred, and for that reason, nothing will ever change. Part of the reason right wingism has thrived in Israel in recent decades is because Palestinians keep proving they have no interest in coexisting peacefully with Israel. Both sides need to accept a two state solution, and extremists like you are a part of the problem, not the solution.

The IDF only targets women and children and civilian males like doctors, journalists, farmers. When facing an actual army (if you can even call Hamas that), they run and hide and are nowhere to be found. This is no army. How are that many Hamas still alive?

Who were they killing in Gaza? 100,000 civilians.

Wouldnt it be much smarter for the IDF instead of cutting off electricity and Internet/phone communication if they entered the war asking civilians for help in finding the hostages and Hamas in exchange for a bounty or immunity from bombing? Hamas was barely popular with Gazans in the first place and it wouldve been relatively easy for Israel to psychologically ruin Hamas by making Gazans turn on them for their own safety. Lets not forget Sinwar's first kill was of a Palestinian Mossad spy. Hamas hates the idea of Israeli spies. This war wouldve created 1 million Israeli spies just by virtue of people wanting safety.

In the first days after 10/7 when Internet was still available, Gazans on social media where helping Israel and already snitching by saying they saw Hamas hiding hostages at the hospital and many Israeli victims were able to realize their relatives were alive and at the hospital for injuries based on these stories from Gazans on social media.

Instead, Israel goes to Lebanon instead and finally enters Gaza in late November-a month and a half later. It's almost as if they never wanted to end the war quickly and find all the hostages by 10/9 which is what couldve happened if they didnt go to Lebanon and entered Gaza that same day. The cocky IDF thought they could do it by themselves, but once social media went dark in Gaza, they could not find anybody without the help and despite raiding Al Shifa Hospital 70 times a month based on old intel from the day after 10/7.

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Israeli government officials admitted they learned Shani Louk (RIP) and the kids were alive thanks to Gazan social media posts.

The Gazan social media on 10/7 was very interesting. Many were angry at Hamas and @'ing Israeli officials letting them know where Hamas may likely hide the hostages. Israel decided not to enter and just bomb the place to oblivion, but they kept Al Shifaa Hospital in tact because they thought the hostages were there.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I see now.

Trump Hotel Gaza was always the plan.

“ Gaza is interesting," he added. "It’s a phenomenal location, on the sea. The best weather, you know, everything is good. It’s like, some beautiful things could be done with it, but it’s very interesting."”

Empty it out of Palestinians.

Palestinians could have made Gaza into a great tourist destination, beautiful and profitable. Instead, they turned it into a dirty sh!thole ridden with tunnels.

How would they make it a tourist destination, Einstein? No airport, no travel, full blockade?
I think they've done pretty well in developing Gaza given the hand they were dealt. Gaza is very urbanized despite lacking access to trade or resources.

They could use the equipment they used for tunnels, Einstein! They sure got plenty of infrastructure development assistance over the years, as evidenced by their underground construction projects, Einstein.

They wouldnt need tunnels if it werent for the blockade. They needed tunnels to get medicine, food, furniture from Egypt since there was a blockade. Israel doesnt even allow chocolate into the Gaza Strip. Israel permits some of the "prohibited" items into Gaza (for example: paper, biscuits, and chocolate), on the condition that they are for the use of international organizations, while requests from private merchants to purchase them are denied.

I dont understand how you think a place with a blockade can become a tourist destination. You do realize the Israeli navy is on the Gaza strip's sea? They kill fishermen and anyone trying to get clean water and food.

Who wants to party and celebrate and vacation over graves and pain? The rest of the world arent Israelis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The strong crushed the weak, who in this case more than deserved it. The strong remain strong, the weak are even weaker, and all that's left for the Gazans is 50K dead Palestinians and a lot of rubble. Continuing on the same path, which they show no sign of deviating from, will keep the Gazans enfeebled forever. So shall it ever be, if your rantings are representative of their deep insight into the reasons for their continuing condition.

Who did they crush? A hundred strong Hamas escorted hostages like a Uber drop off to the Israeli authorities in front of an unusually peaceful and demure IDF presence