ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


It's the second level league, I don't think anyone is unaware? There are some clubs who have no MLSN1 team and just MLSN2, so at those clubs, it's the A team - regardless of the league being second tier. No one is being deceived - it's an alternate structure to ENCL/RL.

I dont think thats the case. MLSN HG is a pro/college pathway and MLSN Academy will be college pathway only. There will probabaly be a lot of movement between the 2 groups.

I realise the ECNL girl dad's are working double overtime to say negative things about MLSN. They should probabaly focus on themselves where the help is most needed.


You are an idiot. Have no idea on MLS1 and ECNL. I guess your kid plays rec and you just pretend to know it, so you spill shit.

Watch what happens.

There's two different mindsets happening. MLSN1 is pro/academy and MLSN2 is pay to play. Now that one is BY and the other is SY they'll continue to drift appart. My guess is that MLSN1 will continue to pull talent from MLSN2 and there will be some way for the best MLSN2 teams to play against MLSN1 every once in a while. But even this will be difficult because the MLSN2 teams wont be thrilled about MLSN1 teams stealing their talented players. Unless MLSN 1 starts paying clubs for talent.

This is where things are going. MLSN2 and ECNL will end up copies of each other. Which might not be that bad if a thing. If you have 2 leagues doing essentially the same process someone's going to figure out that they can just buy their competition out and merge everything together.


Breaking News: MLSN1 is 90% pay to play. Everyone who actually has a kid playing in that league knows that. The professional academies sort of participate, emphasis on sort of. They play a game a year or so an age group up. They also generally teams a fewer age groups, and play each other far more than they play anyone else. I agree that if you're at a real MLS academy that it is sort of a professional pathway, 90% of those kids in those academies will not play professionally either and many of them will play division 1 college.


90% of kids at Premier League club academies won't become professionals either

So according to you, the Liverpool academy isn't a Pro Pathway for over 90% of the kids
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I-95 isn't an interstate highway if you don't drive across state lines 😂
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Anonymous wrote:Pro pathway makes me chuckle every time


No kid anywhere is on the path to a potential professional career?


If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that your kid is on a pro “pathway” then by all means go for it. But you statistically, and literally, sound ridiculous if you say it out loud.
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No kid anywhere is on the path to a potential professional career?


If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that your kid is on a pro “pathway” then by all means go for it. But you statistically, and literally, sound ridiculous if you say it out loud.


So statistically, 99% of the academy players in the world are ridiculous if they say they are on a pro pathway?

You obviously don't know what ridiculous is for you to say what you said
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No kid anywhere is on the path to a potential professional career?


If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that your kid is on a pro “pathway” then by all means go for it. But you statistically, and literally, sound ridiculous if you say it out loud.


Nearly 90 kids just got drafted in the MLS Super Draft
Many will sign professional contracts

They all came from the same leagues and clubs as many kids of dcum parents that you are saying aren't on a pathway to pro trajectory

Go figure
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Anonymous wrote:Pro pathway makes me chuckle every time


No kid anywhere is on the path to a potential professional career?


If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that your kid is on a pro “pathway” then by all means go for it. But you statistically, and literally, sound ridiculous if you say it out loud.


Who are these people that hate how things turned out for their lives that that hope others don't succeed?
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Can someone explain the US club announcement about NPL, RL, ECNL?

I thought they are already all
Connected and you can work your way up the latter.

I’m not understanding what’s different?
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the US club announcement about NPL, RL, ECNL?

I thought they are already all
Connected and you can work your way up the latter.

I’m not understanding what’s different?


It's all PR?
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.

Parents think they won the race using whatever they can to get their kid on the A team. What they dont understand is A team coaches are paid to win they arent paid to develop. As an example, this means at the youngers level teaching players to pass and play as a team. This alone will beat most youngers teams. Unfortunately once you get to 11v11 the game changes from passing and tactics to more 1on1s and direct to goal. The problem is the A team youngers coaches beat 1on1 skills out of younger players for team wins using passing and tactics. If your kid isnt able to change their game up they get replaced. Meanwhile the B team players did whatever they could to survive which often includes 1on1 skills because they might have been the only talent on the team. Guess who gets moved up to the a team at 11v11?
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.

Parents think they won the race using whatever they can to get their kid on the A team. What they dont understand is A team coaches are paid to win they arent paid to develop. As an example, this means at the youngers level teaching players to pass and play as a team. This alone will beat most youngers teams. Unfortunately once you get to 11v11 the game changes from passing and tactics to more 1on1s and direct to goal. The problem is the A team youngers coaches beat 1on1 skills out of younger players for team wins using passing and tactics. If your kid isnt able to change their game up they get replaced. Meanwhile the B team players did whatever they could to survive which often includes 1on1 skills because they might have been the only talent on the team. Guess who gets moved up to the a team at 11v11?


I'd love to see worthy B team players promoted. Guess what? It doesn't happen hardly enough, unless they change clubs. And maybe this year as we switch from BY to SY.

Also, yes team tactics can trump individual athleticism BUT the reality is the great clubs and teams do BOTH and those are the clubs that have the pathways to college. Parents look for those clubs the most.
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.

Parents think they won the race using whatever they can to get their kid on the A team. What they dont understand is A team coaches are paid to win they arent paid to develop. As an example, this means at the youngers level teaching players to pass and play as a team. This alone will beat most youngers teams. Unfortunately once you get to 11v11 the game changes from passing and tactics to more 1on1s and direct to goal. The problem is the A team youngers coaches beat 1on1 skills out of younger players for team wins using passing and tactics. If your kid isnt able to change their game up they get replaced. Meanwhile the B team players did whatever they could to survive which often includes 1on1 skills because they might have been the only talent on the team. Guess who gets moved up to the a team at 11v11?


I'd love to see worthy B team players promoted. Guess what? It doesn't happen hardly enough, unless they change clubs. And maybe this year as we switch from BY to SY.

Also, yes team tactics can trump individual athleticism BUT the reality is the great clubs and teams do BOTH and those are the clubs that have the pathways to college. Parents look for those clubs the most.

It is true that top teams do both. However at younger ages coaches often go overboard on team for wins. This takes away from 1on1 ability. Where as B teams tend to have 1-2 top players that are all 1on1 who rely on athleticism. When you hit 11v11 things change and different types of players get opportunities.

Just pointing out that being on the A team isnt always the best thing for your kid. Its hard to see this when you're in the eye of the storm.
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.

Parents think they won the race using whatever they can to get their kid on the A team. What they dont understand is A team coaches are paid to win they arent paid to develop. As an example, this means at the youngers level teaching players to pass and play as a team. This alone will beat most youngers teams. Unfortunately once you get to 11v11 the game changes from passing and tactics to more 1on1s and direct to goal. The problem is the A team youngers coaches beat 1on1 skills out of younger players for team wins using passing and tactics. If your kid isnt able to change their game up they get replaced. Meanwhile the B team players did whatever they could to survive which often includes 1on1 skills because they might have been the only talent on the team. Guess who gets moved up to the a team at 11v11?


I'd love to see worthy B team players promoted. Guess what? It doesn't happen hardly enough, unless they change clubs. And maybe this year as we switch from BY to SY.

Also, yes team tactics can trump individual athleticism BUT the reality is the great clubs and teams do BOTH and those are the clubs that have the pathways to college. Parents look for those clubs the most.

It is true that top teams do both. However at younger ages coaches often go overboard on team for wins. This takes away from 1on1 ability. Where as B teams tend to have 1-2 top players that are all 1on1 who rely on athleticism. When you hit 11v11 things change and different types of players get opportunities.

Just pointing out that being on the A team isnt always the best thing for your kid. Its hard to see this when you're in the eye of the storm.


Sure, if you're not playing on A, B team is better, BUT rising from the B team is distinctly harder path, especially the older you get.
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.

Parents think they won the race using whatever they can to get their kid on the A team. What they dont understand is A team coaches are paid to win they arent paid to develop. As an example, this means at the youngers level teaching players to pass and play as a team. This alone will beat most youngers teams. Unfortunately once you get to 11v11 the game changes from passing and tactics to more 1on1s and direct to goal. The problem is the A team youngers coaches beat 1on1 skills out of younger players for team wins using passing and tactics. If your kid isnt able to change their game up they get replaced. Meanwhile the B team players did whatever they could to survive which often includes 1on1 skills because they might have been the only talent on the team. Guess who gets moved up to the a team at 11v11?


I'd love to see worthy B team players promoted. Guess what? It doesn't happen hardly enough, unless they change clubs. And maybe this year as we switch from BY to SY.

Also, yes team tactics can trump individual athleticism BUT the reality is the great clubs and teams do BOTH and those are the clubs that have the pathways to college. Parents look for those clubs the most.

It is true that top teams do both. However at younger ages coaches often go overboard on team for wins. This takes away from 1on1 ability. Where as B teams tend to have 1-2 top players that are all 1on1 who rely on athleticism. When you hit 11v11 things change and different types of players get opportunities.

Just pointing out that being on the A team isnt always the best thing for your kid. Its hard to see this when you're in the eye of the storm.


Sure, if you're not playing on A, B team is better, BUT rising from the B team is distinctly harder path, especially the older you get.

I always looked at playing on the A team as one of those Monkey Paw wishes. In some ways its better but at the same time in many ways its worse.
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Anonymous wrote:Bioband can work too for some players, but remember bioband is an exception and there is a limit on the number of bioband players. In our club, there are only one per age group. And I saw teams abusing bioband and put bigger players down just to win..


No it screws Aug-Dec bdays forcing them to play down an age group AND skill level, double whammy, pergatory.


Biobanding is only for players who can not play in their own age group. For Q3/Q4 players, they would rather play for ECNL than biobanding. A biobanding player in our team just left for HS soccer and he will tryout for ECNL team next Spring.

Why wouldn't they just play on an MLSN2 team that allows HS soccer?
Not everybody falls for marketing fluff. Some people are smart.


100% this. MLS2 is a glorious name for a B team. And we all know the B team is a B team, no matter what deceiving new name you put on it.


Messi was on Barcelona’s B academy team
This is an inaccurate representation of the truth. At 16, he played some games for the reserve team or B team for Barca. He wasn't second tier academy stock.


Fermin Lopez was on the Barcelona Academy B team as well. He is now a super exciting young talent that already has a hat trick for Barcelona.

This obsession with what level team a player is on at this age is both strange and frankly pitiful. What matters above all else is technical and tactical development along with character.

Whoever your kid is and whatever level he is currently playing, if he has your mentality (hopefully not) he will not succeed.

Parents think they won the race using whatever they can to get their kid on the A team. What they dont understand is A team coaches are paid to win they arent paid to develop. As an example, this means at the youngers level teaching players to pass and play as a team. This alone will beat most youngers teams. Unfortunately once you get to 11v11 the game changes from passing and tactics to more 1on1s and direct to goal. The problem is the A team youngers coaches beat 1on1 skills out of younger players for team wins using passing and tactics. If your kid isnt able to change their game up they get replaced. Meanwhile the B team players did whatever they could to survive which often includes 1on1 skills because they might have been the only talent on the team. Guess who gets moved up to the a team at 11v11?


I'd love to see worthy B team players promoted. Guess what? It doesn't happen hardly enough, unless they change clubs. And maybe this year as we switch from BY to SY.

Also, yes team tactics can trump individual athleticism BUT the reality is the great clubs and teams do BOTH and those are the clubs that have the pathways to college. Parents look for those clubs the most.

It is true that top teams do both. However at younger ages coaches often go overboard on team for wins. This takes away from 1on1 ability. Where as B teams tend to have 1-2 top players that are all 1on1 who rely on athleticism. When you hit 11v11 things change and different types of players get opportunities.

Just pointing out that being on the A team isnt always the best thing for your kid. Its hard to see this when you're in the eye of the storm.


Sure, if you're not playing on A, B team is better, BUT rising from the B team is distinctly harder path, especially the older you get.

I always looked at playing on the A team as one of those Monkey Paw wishes. In some ways its better but at the same time in many ways its worse.


You could make the same point about switching clubs. It all depends what your goals are.
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