Leaked Clinton audio

[Anonymous]

So, this is what Hillary REALLY thinks of the Bernie supporters. And, these are people she is trying to win over.

Hacked audio of a conversation between Hillary Clinton and donors during a February fundraising event shows the Democrat nominee describing Bernie Sanders supporters as "children of the Great Recession" who are "living in their parents’ basement."

"There is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates," she said. "And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel.”

While stressing the need to not serve as a "wet blanket on idealism," Clinton paints fans of the then-surging Vermont senator as political newbies attempting to deal with an economy that has fallen short of their expectations.
"Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement," she said. "They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future."
Clinton added: "If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing."

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[Anonymous]

I am not a Hilary fan but I think she sort of nailed it. Not what she said about Trump supporters, but yes what she said about Bernie supporters.

[Anonymous]

She's not incorrect. She's also not insulting them, she's noting the economic realities. You seem to take glee in trying to stir the pot.

[Anonymous]

I think it's fairly accurate regarding many Bernie supporters, though not all, and I did vote for Bernie in the primary. I also think it doesn't compare to Trump in terms of intemperate talk.

[Anonymous]

Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

Clinton never promised free college. That was one of the differences between her and Sanders.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure with what is wrong with what she said. She wasn't demeaning like a certain "republican" candidate. She was painting a realistic picture of what I think anyone paying attention is seeing.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

Clinton never promised free college. That was one of the differences between her and Sanders.

Originally. But now that Sanders is out, she upped the ante in order to get the Bernie supporters to come out for her. She is promising no tuition at public universities for families making under $125k, which is the vast majority. And you notice how she never says the details? Like how she is going to pay for it? (And no, making the rich pay "their fair share" won't begin to cover it.) Plus, if you make tuition free - meaning taxpayers have to pay for it - the tuition will go up even faster. I'm sure you're aware that subsidized goods and services rise in price.

I would support some minor approach to this, though. Students from modest incomes who score in the top 5% in their HS get taxpayer-funded tuition, provided them maintsin a B average in college. I also would be in favor of raising the Pell grant income ceiling somewhat. But other than that, sorry....money doesn't grow on trees, and we are already $20 trillion in debt.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

Clinton never promised free college. That was one of the differences between her and Sanders.

Below is a section from her platform.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/college/

I think we can FREELY throw around the word, free, here. Maybe you attended an Ivy? I have no clue. But for those of us saving enough to get our kids through our local system, this will kill programs and lower quality.

Community colleges struggle enough b/c they've had to create remedial programs for high school "graduates" and many courses for ESL students.

How does she propose to support free tuition? Apparently that last part of the quote "answers" that. But in reality it will be us - the middle class - who are too poor to send our kids to an Ivy but too "rich" for our state university system. So colleges will be forced to raise tuition for us to pay for the others. I say this as someone who graduated debt-free;my parents helped with undergrad and I paid for my master's degree b/c my employee kicked in.

Our own children will not be so lucky.

Hillary Clinton is the biggest bullshitter of our time. But people aren't smart enough to read and question her platform.

Every student should have the option to graduate from a public college or university in their state without taking on any student debt. By 2021, families with income up to $125,000 will pay no tuition at in-state four-year public colleges and universities. And from the beginning, every student from a family making $85,000 a year or less will be able to go to an in-state four-year public college or university without paying tuition.

All community colleges will offer free tuition.

Everyone will do their part. States will have to step up and invest in higher education, and colleges and universities will be held accountable for the success of their students and for controlling tuition costs.

And which schools did Chelsea attend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

Clinton never promised free college. That was one of the differences between her and Sanders.

Originally. But now that Sanders is out, she upped the ante in order to get the Bernie supporters to come out for her. She is promising no tuition at public universities for families making under $125k, which is the vast majority. And you notice how she never says the details? Like how she is going to pay for it? (And no, making the rich pay "their fair share" won't begin to cover it.) Plus, if you make tuition free - meaning taxpayers have to pay for it - the tuition will go up even faster. I'm sure you're aware that subsidized goods and services rise in price.

I would support some minor approach to this, though. Students from modest incomes who score in the top 5% in their HS get taxpayer-funded tuition, provided them maintsin a B average in college. I also would be in favor of raising the Pell grant income ceiling somewhat. But other than that, sorry....money doesn't grow on trees, and we are already $20 trillion in debt.

I just posted something similar shortly after you did. Apparently, you and I are the only two who have read her platform.

But as an educator, this section obviously appealed to me.

And no, I'm not a Trump supporter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, this is what Hillary REALLY thinks of the Bernie supporters. And, these are people she is trying to win over.

Hacked audio of a conversation between Hillary Clinton and donors during a February fundraising event shows the Democrat nominee describing Bernie Sanders supporters as "children of the Great Recession" who are "living in their parents’ basement."

"There is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates," she said. "And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel.”

While stressing the need to not serve as a "wet blanket on idealism," Clinton paints fans of the then-surging Vermont senator as political newbies attempting to deal with an economy that has fallen short of their expectations.
"Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement," she said. "They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future."
Clinton added: "If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997#ixzz4LpKigYeW
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I'm not getting the same impression OP is from this statement. To me, it sounds like she totally gets it: These are kids of the great recession. They have been forced by economic circumstances to live in their parents' basement. They feel like their job prospects aren't great, which is especially galling if they had to borrow money to go to college. Of course they are unhappy and looking for change.

Is this not an accurate description of many of our young people? It sounds like Clinton understands what they are saying. On what planet is that a bad thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

Clinton never promised free college. That was one of the differences between her and Sanders.

Originally. But now that Sanders is out, she upped the ante in order to get the Bernie supporters to come out for her. She is promising no tuition at public universities for families making under $125k, which is the vast majority. And you notice how she never says the details? Like how she is going to pay for it? (And no, making the rich pay "their fair share" won't begin to cover it.) Plus, if you make tuition free - meaning taxpayers have to pay for it - the tuition will go up even faster. I'm sure you're aware that subsidized goods and services rise in price.

I would support some minor approach to this, though. Students from modest incomes who score in the top 5% in their HS get taxpayer-funded tuition, provided them maintsin a B average in college. I also would be in favor of raising the Pell grant income ceiling somewhat. But other than that, sorry....money doesn't grow on trees, and we are already $20 trillion in debt.

I just posted something similar shortly after you did. Apparently, you and I are the only two who have read her platform.

But as an educator, this section obviously appealed to me.

And no, I'm not a Trump supporter.

Did we learn nothing from the Obamacare debacle/basic negotiation? Start higher than what you actually want or you end up compromising even lower.

[Anonymous]

Is the mod a #BasementDweller or not making enough money from this site to be a BernieBro?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, this is encouraging. I've been concerned that she's going to drive the US into bankruotcy - ala Greece - with her talk of all the free stuff she's going to hand out, like college educations. Shows she's just making empty promises to entice the Bernie supporters to the polls. (She's good with the lies.)

Clinton never promised free college. That was one of the differences between her and Sanders.

Originally. But now that Sanders is out, she upped the ante in order to get the Bernie supporters to come out for her. She is promising no tuition at public universities for families making under $125k, which is the vast majority. And you notice how she never says the details? Like how she is going to pay for it? (And no, making the rich pay "their fair share" won't begin to cover it.) Plus, if you make tuition free - meaning taxpayers have to pay for it - the tuition will go up even faster. I'm sure you're aware that subsidized goods and services rise in price.

I would support some minor approach to this, though. Students from modest incomes who score in the top 5% in their HS get taxpayer-funded tuition, provided them maintsin a B average in college. I also would be in favor of raising the Pell grant income ceiling somewhat. But other than that, sorry....money doesn't grow on trees, and we are already $20 trillion in debt.

I just posted something similar shortly after you did. Apparently, you and I are the only two who have read her platform.

But as an educator, this section obviously appealed to me.

And no, I'm not a Trump supporter.

PP here. I'm starting to think that we're the only two who understand that there's no such thing as free. I'm not an educator, but I know how economics work. And didn't the country learn its lesson from Obamacare? Middle class people who previously could afford medical care are being gouged by the insurance companies who are forced to cover everything for the lower-income.* So we now have lower-income with access to excellent care, and middle-class people who are being hit with such high costs that they're skipping appointments and treatments. And now we're going to do it with education?

*i had a 3-minute laser procedure (no, not Lasik), and the charge for the "facility" was $700, which I was required to pay upfront. Obamacare didn't pay anything at all. And no checks were accepted. I had to use a credit card or cash. So....the point is.... I had a seat by the front desk, and three people followed me. None spoke English, they were dressed sorta grubby, and NONE paid a cent. Just me.

[Anonymous]

Clinton didn't mock millennials.She merely said they don't understand their own unrealistic ideals,which she doesn't share & won't fight for.