Pray for Charlotte, NC

[Anonymous]

Y'all act like this shit is new.
The press and politicians and idiotic debaters on social media...this shit ain't new.
In the ‘I have a Dream’ speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King referenced police brutality in that very same speech. You then go to the assassination of Fred Hampton by cops in Chicago. And then all of a sudden you go to the 1980s and you have rappers like NWA and Iced Tea and others talking about ‘F the police’ and also talking about police brutality. And so you’ve had this in each decade. You’ve had the Rodney King beating in the 1990s. Now all of a sudden is you’re in the 2000s. The difference here now is you actually have video of officers in action. That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok. I've watched all the videos. Has anyone explained HOW it got to the multiple police/surrounding his car. So Guy's just sitting there, and what? The police start interactung? For what reason? And then why did they call so many? And then something about the wife walking over outside the car? I just can't fathom how it got to the point they show in the videos.

"Central to the protests are the differing accounts between police and Scott's family over what led to his death. Authorities said officers were at the complex looking for another man named in a warrant when Scott pulled up next to the vehicle two of them were in.

One of those officers was Vinson, who said he saw Scott rolling a marijuana joint and then showing a gun, according to a police statement Saturday.

Police said the officers, who were in street clothes, went to another location and put on vests that identified them as police.

When they came back they ordered Scott to drop his gun. A uniformed officer who had arrived tried to break a window with his baton. Scott then got out of the car, a police statement said. Officers continued to yell at him to drop a gun before Vinson fired."

https://www.CNN.com/cnn/2016/09/24/us/charlotte-keith-lamont-scott-shooting-video/index.html?client=safari

Drugs + gun = felony, so they couldn't just ignore it.

Thank you. I've read a lot but missed that detail.
I had also read once about the wife being out of the car. But can't find it now. I mean, I've seen her video, but where did Scott drive from? When did she get out if the car? Also, their daughter was there too right? I saw her video including the one with the moment she found out he had died. I'm just curious about the full timeline. Why he was in the car, and they were out.

Here is the thing. This is an active investigation. What if there is a trial? How would a jury be found when everyone has already played prosecutor, jury and judge?

That might be precisely why the police do not want to release dashboard footage and body cam footage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a strongly worded letter, the head of Dallas' Black Police Association said police brutality against unarmed men has become an "epidemic."

"There is an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot by police officers. It is so pervasive, if not checked it will soon rise to levels exceeded only by lynchings, and slavery...It is time to jog our consciousness and stop this epidemic from spreading; we cannot continue to have innocent lives lost."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Lieutenant-Calls-Police-Brutality-A-Growing-Epidemic-That-Must-Be-Addressed-394496821.html

That is incredibly offensive.

That man should be removed as head of that association.

To compare the current issue to lynchings and slavery? That is an outrage and a slap in the face to every african american who ever faced such atrocity.

Disgusting!

He's a cop
He's got more experience and perspective than you do
You just don't like what he said
TOO BAD!!!
And black folk don't need you telling us what should offend us !
No thanks !
We can speak for ourselves Mister Charlie!

DP. How do you know that the poster who said it is an outrage to compare lynchings to the current situation is white?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y'all act like this shit is new.
The press and politicians and idiotic debaters on social media...this shit ain't new.
In the ‘I have a Dream’ speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King referenced police brutality in that very same speech. You then go to the assassination of Fred Hampton by cops in Chicago. And then all of a sudden you go to the 1980s and you have rappers like NWA and Iced Tea and others talking about ‘F the police’ and also talking about police brutality. And so you’ve had this in each decade. You’ve had the Rodney King beating in the 1990s. Now all of a sudden is you’re in the 2000s. The difference here now is you actually have video of officers in action. That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

Sounds good. MLK also promoted a poor people's campaign and a campaign against war. Excited to see your efforts in those spaces too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y'all act like this shit is new.
The press and politicians and idiotic debaters on social media...this shit ain't new.
In the ‘I have a Dream’ speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King referenced police brutality in that very same speech. You then go to the assassination of Fred Hampton by cops in Chicago. And then all of a sudden you go to the 1980s and you have rappers like NWA and Iced Tea and others talking about ‘F the police’ and also talking about police brutality. And so you’ve had this in each decade. You’ve had the Rodney King beating in the 1990s. Now all of a sudden is you’re in the 2000s. The difference here now is you actually have video of officers in action. That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

I'll be honest as someone who was at USC during the LA "Rodney King" riots. I was actually angry about those situations and against those cops.

All these current cases though? Its always some guy resisting arrest and he either has a weapon or is doing something stupid like reaching for something when cops are telling him to keep his hands up.

I think the police are being smeared and impoverished people are being lied to - to take the spotlight off poverty and violence within their own community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a strongly worded letter, the head of Dallas' Black Police Association said police brutality against unarmed men has become an "epidemic."

"There is an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot by police officers. It is so pervasive, if not checked it will soon rise to levels exceeded only by lynchings, and slavery...It is time to jog our consciousness and stop this epidemic from spreading; we cannot continue to have innocent lives lost."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Lieutenant-Calls-Police-Brutality-A-Growing-Epidemic-That-Must-Be-Addressed-394496821.html

That is incredibly offensive.

That man should be removed as head of that association.

To compare the current issue to lynchings and slavery? That is an outrage and a slap in the face to every african american who ever faced such atrocity.

Disgusting!

He's a cop
He's got more experience and perspective than you do
You just don't like what he said
TOO BAD!!!
And black folk don't need you telling us what should offend us !
No thanks !
We can speak for ourselves Mister Charlie!

I wasn't telling anyone to be offended.

I'm offended and I have a right to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a strongly worded letter, the head of Dallas' Black Police Association said police brutality against unarmed men has become an "epidemic."

"There is an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot by police officers. It is so pervasive, if not checked it will soon rise to levels exceeded only by lynchings, and slavery...It is time to jog our consciousness and stop this epidemic from spreading; we cannot continue to have innocent lives lost."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Lieutenant-Calls-Police-Brutality-A-Growing-Epidemic-That-Must-Be-Addressed-394496821.html

That is incredibly offensive.

That man should be removed as head of that association.

To compare the current issue to lynchings and slavery? That is an outrage and a slap in the face to every african american who ever faced such atrocity.

Disgusting!

He's a cop
He's got more experience and perspective than you do
You just don't like what he said
TOO BAD!!!
And black folk don't need you telling us what should offend us !
No thanks !
We can speak for ourselves Mister Charlie!

Hold up. I thought all cops were murderous poorly trained pathological liars who lie.

But not this one right? Because you like what he said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a strongly worded letter, the head of Dallas' Black Police Association said police brutality against unarmed men has become an "epidemic."

"There is an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot by police officers. It is so pervasive, if not checked it will soon rise to levels exceeded only by lynchings, and slavery...It is time to jog our consciousness and stop this epidemic from spreading; we cannot continue to have innocent lives lost."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Lieutenant-Calls-Police-Brutality-A-Growing-Epidemic-That-Must-Be-Addressed-394496821.html

That is incredibly offensive.

That man should be removed as head of that association.

To compare the current issue to lynchings and slavery? That is an outrage and a slap in the face to every african american who ever faced such atrocity.

Disgusting!

He's a cop
He's got more experience and perspective than you do
You just don't like what he said
TOO BAD!!!
And black folk don't need you telling us what should offend us !
No thanks !
We can speak for ourselves Mister Charlie!

I wasn't telling anyone to be offended.

I'm offended and I have a right to be.

Why are you offended?
Someone you love been found hanging from a tree?
Someone you care about Vern left to bleed in his car or in the street due to a traffic violation ?
Sit you scary, offered behind down , grown folks are talking about something you refuse to understand !
Avoiding discomfort and change is more important to you than fighting injustice !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y'all act like this shit is new.
The press and politicians and idiotic debaters on social media...this shit ain't new.
In the ‘I have a Dream’ speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King referenced police brutality in that very same speech. You then go to the assassination of Fred Hampton by cops in Chicago. And then all of a sudden you go to the 1980s and you have rappers like NWA and Iced Tea and others talking about ‘F the police’ and also talking about police brutality. And so you’ve had this in each decade. You’ve had the Rodney King beating in the 1990s. Now all of a sudden is you’re in the 2000s. The difference here now is you actually have video of officers in action. That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

Sounds good. MLK also promoted a poor people's campaign and a campaign against war. Excited to see your efforts in those spaces too

He also campaigned against true deep seated police brutality like Kent State and African Americans being shot with fire hoses while peacefully protesting. He did this at a time when African Americans were still treated as second class citizens and segregation was rampant.

To compare those times to today is shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a strongly worded letter, the head of Dallas' Black Police Association said police brutality against unarmed men has become an "epidemic."

"There is an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot by police officers. It is so pervasive, if not checked it will soon rise to levels exceeded only by lynchings, and slavery...It is time to jog our consciousness and stop this epidemic from spreading; we cannot continue to have innocent lives lost."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Lieutenant-Calls-Police-Brutality-A-Growing-Epidemic-That-Must-Be-Addressed-394496821.html

That is incredibly offensive.

That man should be removed as head of that association.

To compare the current issue to lynchings and slavery? That is an outrage and a slap in the face to every african american who ever faced such atrocity.

Disgusting!

He's a cop
He's got more experience and perspective than you do
You just don't like what he said
TOO BAD!!!
And black folk don't need you telling us what should offend us !
No thanks !
We can speak for ourselves Mister Charlie!

Hold up. I thought all cops were murderous poorly trained pathological liars who lie.

But not this one right? Because you like what he said.

I never said all cops are bad, matter of fact most folks fighting police brutality are saying it is the GOOD cops who need to stand up !!
The only ones saying that all cops are bad are the police brutality deniers who try to paint fighting police brutality as hatred of all cops.
Try again !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In a strongly worded letter, the head of Dallas' Black Police Association said police brutality against unarmed men has become an "epidemic."

"There is an epidemic of unarmed black men being shot by police officers. It is so pervasive, if not checked it will soon rise to levels exceeded only by lynchings, and slavery...It is time to jog our consciousness and stop this epidemic from spreading; we cannot continue to have innocent lives lost."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Lieutenant-Calls-Police-Brutality-A-Growing-Epidemic-That-Must-Be-Addressed-394496821.html

That is incredibly offensive.

That man should be removed as head of that association.

To compare the current issue to lynchings and slavery? That is an outrage and a slap in the face to every african american who ever faced such atrocity.

Disgusting!

He's a cop
He's got more experience and perspective than you do
You just don't like what he said
TOO BAD!!!
And black folk don't need you telling us what should offend us !
No thanks !
We can speak for ourselves Mister Charlie!

I wasn't telling anyone to be offended.

I'm offended and I have a right to be.

Why are you offended?
Someone you love been found hanging from a tree?
Someone you care about Vern left to bleed in his car or in the street due to a traffic violation ?
Sit you scary, offered behind down , grown folks are talking about something you refuse to understand !
Avoiding discomfort and change is more important to you than fighting injustice !

Are you a parody account? Because I can't take you seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y'all act like this shit is new.
The press and politicians and idiotic debaters on social media...this shit ain't new.
In the ‘I have a Dream’ speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King referenced police brutality in that very same speech. You then go to the assassination of Fred Hampton by cops in Chicago. And then all of a sudden you go to the 1980s and you have rappers like NWA and Iced Tea and others talking about ‘F the police’ and also talking about police brutality. And so you’ve had this in each decade. You’ve had the Rodney King beating in the 1990s. Now all of a sudden is you’re in the 2000s. The difference here now is you actually have video of officers in action. That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

Sounds good. MLK also promoted a poor people's campaign and a campaign against war. Excited to see your efforts in those spaces too

He also campaigned against true deep seated police brutality like Kent State and African Americans being shot with fire hoses while peacefully protesting. He did this at a time when African Americans were still treated as second class citizens and segregation was rampant.

To compare those times to today is shameful.

That WE CAN STILL make the comparison is what is shameful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y'all act like this shit is new.
The press and politicians and idiotic debaters on social media...this shit ain't new.
In the ‘I have a Dream’ speech on August 28, 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King referenced police brutality in that very same speech. You then go to the assassination of Fred Hampton by cops in Chicago. And then all of a sudden you go to the 1980s and you have rappers like NWA and Iced Tea and others talking about ‘F the police’ and also talking about police brutality. And so you’ve had this in each decade. You’ve had the Rodney King beating in the 1990s. Now all of a sudden is you’re in the 2000s. The difference here now is you actually have video of officers in action. That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

Sounds good. MLK also promoted a poor people's campaign and a campaign against war. Excited to see your efforts in those spaces too

He also campaigned against true deep seated police brutality like Kent State and African Americans being shot with fire hoses while peacefully protesting. He did this at a time when African Americans were still treated as second class citizens and segregation was rampant.

To compare those times to today is shameful.

That WE CAN STILL make the comparison is what is shameful!

If you lived through it or know any history of it then you'd know there is no comparison.

[Anonymous]

unfortunately, it seems like this conversation will never get anywhere. one side is not willing to concede that maybe, just maybe, the community has work to do just like the police do to improve things. so long as the "always a victim" mentality continues, things will never get better.

even when someone does something bad to you, there's almost always something you could've done differently or better. acknowledging that doesn't take away what the other person did, or make it ok.

flat out refusal to take any sort of personal responsibility stalls progress.

[Anonymous]

African Americans experience PTSD at a higher rate than any other ethnic group, according to a study published in 2010 on PubMed, the online archive of the National Institutes of Health's National Library of Medicine.
And considering the prevalence of violence perpetuated by criminals AND the police in poor black communities it's not surprising.
Maybe cops should take that into consideration next time they come across a black man "acting strangely" when they pull up lights flashing and sirens wailing. Maybe cops should take that into consideration next time they come across a black man "not complying" when they're shouting at him with guns drawn escalating situations.