Official Ebola update thread

Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He knows people are aware that Obama is a huge mistake and he is not the kind of person to accept that he has been wrong to the very core of his beliefs.


I have been criticizing Obama from nearly the first day of his presidency. I have never hesitated to criticize him when it was deserved. In this case, however, I applaud his refusal to bow to hysterical mobs. That said, I am now declaring a moratorium on political posts in this and other threads in the Health Forum. There are multiple ebola-related threads in the Political Forum. Some posters have been posting the same thing in both places. From now on, talk about the disease here and politics there. I will be removing posts that do not conform to these guidelines.


Thank you, Jeff !!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff, why are you deleting posts about the Nigerean man who died on route to JFK after vomiting profusely in his seat?


Please post messages like this in website feedback so that this thread does not get derailed (as it would have been by posting a message about a guy who didn't have ebola).


Determined by a cursory walk-on by CDC, not testing


Are you going to react this way to every African that vomits from now on? Nigeria has had practically no ebola. This is part and parcel of your and others' attempt to generate mass hysteria of the "everything has changed" style illustrated in a post above.


It's here now. Being prepared means staying alert. There is now a lecel 4 virus in this country that the CDC is being lax about. Everything has changed, my friend.

Being alert and aware is always prudent. In bars, in your home, walking outside. Read The Gift Of Fear. It highlights the balance quite well

Had i not been alert and aware, I would have not noticed the man following me in my car. I would have not noticed him hide his car behind a gas station row of pumps when I deliberately stopped at a populated convenience store. Worse yet, I could have dismissed my rational mind as hysterical, and allowed him to follow me home. Police tell me that without my rational, quick thinking, I would be a statistic today. So yes, I trust myself

Liberals like yourself adopt a laisse faire attitude about everything, making you dangerous to others. Then you gaslight by saying they are hysterical. I can't imagine being so naive - or so cruel


Listen, I consider myself liberal, at least in many aspects,
and I totally agree: handling too lax on all fronts, CDC all over the place, Frieden needs to go, etc etc.
Totally appalled by the handling of the entire outbreak domestically and internationally.
I'm for limiting travel to the three countries, slowing/holding visas until this is under control, REAL quarantine (not I will call you from my vacation kind of quarantine)

Obama should have been on the phone with European leaders and through whichever countries flights are routing to the US MONTHS ago, not last week, to discuss how this could be handled in scenario X. The Europeans are just as behind.

I want to appeal to all sides to stop bringing "liberals think this" and "conservatives think this" into this!

It is really counterproductive - you need to think of what's the best way to handle this, and go forward, from a virology standpoint, not a political standpoint.




Totally agree. We are muddling the issue and wasting time playing the blame game. Viruses spread; Ebola could spread further. Let's be present and future-minded.
jsteele
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A bus is being held by police near Capital Hill after a West African passenger vomited:

https://twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/523148716593934337

It's going to be a tough few weeks for West Africans.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:A bus is being held by police near Capital Hill after a West African passenger vomited:

https://twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/523148716593934337

It's going to be a tough few weeks for West Africans.


A good example of the cost of *not* having travel restrictions. When doing this cost-benefit analysis, we need to factor in all the costs of local responders to each potential case. I'm sure there will be many false alarms for every real case, and dealing with it is going to get even more costly.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:A bus is being held by police near Capital Hill after a West African passenger vomited:

https://twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/523148716593934337

It's going to be a tough few weeks for West Africans.


So is this a 2nd West African vomiting on a bus today in DC? Or is this the same bus that was at the Pentagon?
Two vomiting West Africans on two different buses in DC on the same day would be a little hinky.....
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:A bus is being held by police near Capital Hill after a West African passenger vomited:

https://twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/523148716593934337

It's going to be a tough few weeks for West Africans.


Is this the same bus as the one at the Pentagon with the woman just back from Sierra Leone and vomiting?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:A bus is being held by police near Capital Hill after a West African passenger vomited:

https://twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/523148716593934337

It's going to be a tough few weeks for West Africans.


So is this a 2nd West African vomiting on a bus today in DC? Or is this the same bus that was at the Pentagon?
Two vomiting West Africans on two different buses in DC on the same day would be a little hinky.....


Yeah, that's a little hard to believe. Are we sure these are separate incidents? I did click through to both articles. Seems like an odd coincidence.... I haven't vomited in like 17 years.....
Anonymous
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.


Show me an instance where someone gets infected via casual contact and I will concede that they hysterical posters are correct. Until then, no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.


Right about what??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.


We don't know if it's Ebola yet. Last several "scares" have turned out *not* to be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.



WTH bring her to a new hospital with no Ebola? Shouldn't they have just brought her to NIH that has the proper facilities and currently treating Pham? It's in the area.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.



WTH bring her to a new hospital with no Ebola? Shouldn't they have just brought her to NIH that has the proper facilities and currently treating Pham? It's in the area.


Doubtful that she actually has Ebola. Doesn't make sense to take people there who haven't been officially diagnosed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/10/breaking-news-ebola-scare-closses-pentagon-entrance-restricts-parking-108188.html

Woman is at Inova VA Hospital Center now. The parking at Pentagon has been closed off (see above).

Looks like the 'hysterical' ones with the medical backgrounds have been right about the situation/threat all along.


This is what I meant. Chaos is starting to ensue.
Anonymous
Another Texas hospital worker who treated Duncan is currently quaratined on a fricking cruise ship.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/17/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKCN0I61BO20141017

WTF????? Weren't these people NOT supposed to be traveling????
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