20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

They actually can be banned but Republicans refuse to allow it.

“Banned” like illicit narcotics and all the other contraband in which the country is, and has long been, awash? There is a federal “ban” on marijuana. Illegitimate and unprescribed fentanyl is “banned” everywhere. We all know how that’s worked out.

Do you think we are idiots that don’t know other nations don’t have our gun violence issues?

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?

NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.

Wait we can put all of MAGA in an institution? I'm in.

Yeah, they seem mentally ill to me. Throw them in there.

Can you find two medical professionals to agree with you?

They exhibit the worst cult behavior. The rant about conspiracy theories. They are clearly delusional.

Yep, let's do this.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. .

We’re way past worrying about what’s “lawful” or not in this country. Just do it. Laws be damned.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

Tell us you don’t have the slightest clue about firearms or firearms law without using those words . . . Oh, you just did.

The exact model(s) of firearm(s) this demented psychopath used haven’t been announced (or I haven’t seen the information). The firearm criminally misused at Uvalde reportedly was a semiautomatic rifle, not a machine gun.

Nobody can know why, despite expending a reportedly significant amount of ammunition, this particular wretch managed to hit relatively few of the fish in a barrel he was targeting, but the fact that he reportedly stayed outside and shot through what were probably at least semi-opaque stained glass windows would be a good bet for starters.

Lawfully owned machine guns are essentially never used in crimes.

Yup -- I trust the experts at places like Everytown and Giffords to learn about the morbid arcane differences between these guns. BTW, I come from a gun owning family. My dad owned a pistol and regularly went target shooting, and previously owned a hunting rifle back when he did that. My nephews own hunting rifles and regularly hunt, as did my uncle. My dad was an NRA member until the NRA went super crazy with Charlton Heston in the 1980s and he had to end his membership because he wouldn't be associated with those nutjobs. None of my family members who own guns are opposed to things like background checks, waiting periods, mandatory safety and training classes, trigger locks, mandated storage laws, registration/tracking of ownership, and none of them own crazy military style weapons that rip flesh apart like an AR-15 style weapon (which aren't legal in Minnesota).

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

Amen. They use mental health as a shield to protect their guns. They refuse to do anything substantive about either, especially if it would require funding. Yachts before kids. They don't give two sh*ts about kids unless they are in the womb.

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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.

If you think other civilized countries in the world don’t have this problem you are ill informed. It might not be guns in Europe but there are now frequent mass killings using vehicles and knives.

Sydney, Australia mall killings April 2024. Man uses knife to kill 6 people and injure 12.

Norway July 2011. Man sets off bomb in Oslo killing 7 then goes to an island where there was a youth camp and killed 69 people there.

Germany 6 dead, 200 injured in Dec 2024 Christmas market attack. 2016 Christmas market attack in Germany killed 12.

China 2023 man uses knife to kill 6 children in a kindergarten.

China 2024 man uses knife to
Kill 8 and injure 17.

Portugal Sept 2014. 12 year old boy wearing a bulletproof vest stabs six children ages 11-14 at his school.

Austria June 2025 school shooting. 21 year old shoots and kills 9 at a school.

2002 Germany school shooting kills 17.

Jokela Germany school shooting in 2007 kills 9.

Finland school shooting 2008 kills 10. Gunman was inspired by 2007 German killing.

May 2023 school shooting in Serbia kills 10.

Chech Republic Dec 2023 school shooting 15 dead

Swedish school shooting 2025 former student kills 10.

I don’t think it should be legal to have the type and variety of guns that are available in the US but I no longer believe in banning guns. It’s too late.

I think the internet should be massively censored instead. Online chat rooms of people discussing violence and people being able to look up details of previous school shootings should not be allowed. Media coverage of school shoutings should be censored with no details given of shooter besides sex and age. No names or photos available. This recent school shooter wrote about being inspired by Sandy Hook.

It’s a perverse cycle. Parents want their kids to have a phone in case of a school shooting but the internet on those phones are deadly.

What your argument fails to take into account here is that, while yes other countries do have large scale attacks as well, they are isolated AND FAR LESS FREQUENT than the mass shootings perpetrated in the US. To the extent that crime is easier to commit, the more frequently it will be committed. Guns are everywhere in the US, and it’s so much easier for some dude to pull the trigger a bunch of times than to grab a knife and run around in a rampage. Think about it. Think hard. Most twenty something male would-be killers are not going to get up close and personal with a knife to a bunch of school children. They’re too cowardly and it’s too personal of a crime. But a gun takes the personal out of it, and the guns are everywhere. Thus, the guns have to go. All of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?

NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.

Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.

Still wouldn’t have helped here because the murderer was “female”.

+1

We’ve all had “trans women ARE women!” unrelentingly beaten into our heads for the last 3-4 years. Fine. You win. This shooter IS a woman. Period. End of discussion.

Fine. Then the solution is to not allow males OR females to own guns for personal use. Happy now?

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I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?

NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.

Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.

Still wouldn’t have helped here because the murderer was “female”.

+1

We’ve all had “trans women ARE women!” unrelentingly beaten into our heads for the last 3-4 years. Fine. You win. This shooter IS a woman. Period. End of discussion.

Fine. Then the solution is to not allow males OR females to own guns for personal use. Happy now?

Absolutely. Anything that takes all the guns away from the public is a-ok with me. I only want the police and Trump’s forces to have guns. No one else. People have tried to shoot Trump twice in the last 14 months. I want that to stop. The only people who should have guns at all are the police and security forces loyal to Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

Stop pretending you understand anything. Do you have any concept of how many people have mental illnesses and how the vast majority will never do anything like shoot up a school? Clearly not. It's treating the small number who exhibit things like violent fantasies that are the problem. The shooter had ranted on videos. It's not always the case but it is sometimes the case that these shooters leave a trail. It is not the case that all people with a particular mental illness are ticking time bombs.

You are a horrible person, PP. You are more dangerous than people with mental illnesses.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

You can be offended all you want. The reality in 2025 is that she is a woman.

Accept it or be a weirdo hater. Your choice.

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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.

If you think other civilized countries in the world don’t have this problem you are ill informed. It might not be guns in Europe but there are now frequent mass killings using vehicles and knives.

Sydney, Australia mall killings April 2024. Man uses knife to kill 6 people and injure 12.

Norway July 2011. Man sets off bomb in Oslo killing 7 then goes to an island where there was a youth camp and killed 69 people there.

Germany 6 dead, 200 injured in Dec 2024 Christmas market attack. 2016 Christmas market attack in Germany killed 12.

China 2023 man uses knife to kill 6 children in a kindergarten.

China 2024 man uses knife to
Kill 8 and injure 17.

Portugal Sept 2014. 12 year old boy wearing a bulletproof vest stabs six children ages 11-14 at his school.

Austria June 2025 school shooting. 21 year old shoots and kills 9 at a school.

2002 Germany school shooting kills 17.

Jokela Germany school shooting in 2007 kills 9.

Finland school shooting 2008 kills 10. Gunman was inspired by 2007 German killing.

May 2023 school shooting in Serbia kills 10.

Chech Republic Dec 2023 school shooting 15 dead

Swedish school shooting 2025 former student kills 10.

I don’t think it should be legal to have the type and variety of guns that are available in the US but I no longer believe in banning guns. It’s too late.

I think the internet should be massively censored instead. Online chat rooms of people discussing violence and people being able to look up details of previous school shootings should not be allowed. Media coverage of school shoutings should be censored with no details given of shooter besides sex and age. No names or photos available. This recent school shooter wrote about being inspired by Sandy Hook.

It’s a perverse cycle. Parents want their kids to have a phone in case of a school shooting but the internet on those phones are deadly.

None of those victims are as dead as people killed with guns tho. Guns are different.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

I'm a woman and I find it irrelevant that they identified as trans. I find it offensive that the RWNJs are focusing on that and the media are feeding it. It is more relevant that this person has a history of ranting on video about guns and violence.

Meanwhile, the majority of mass shooters are males. Should we start curtailing all the rights and activities of all males as a result?

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Anonymous wrote:I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

You should care about the victims not the attacker.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?

NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.

Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.

Still wouldn’t have helped here because the murderer was “female”.

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We’ve all had “trans women ARE women!” unrelentingly beaten into our heads for the last 3-4 years. Fine. You win. This shooter IS a woman. Period. End of discussion.

Fine. Then the solution is to not allow males OR females to own guns for personal use. Happy now?

I'm the PP who stated that men should not be allowed to own guns.

The shooter is a biological male. I'm happy to call them a "she" if that's what "she" wants, but they are still a male. I'll repeat: vast majority of mass shootings are committed by males. If there was a law that prohibited gun ownership by biological males, this person would not have been able to buy a gun, though I am not sure how they got the gun in the first place.