20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

50% of Catholics are liberal. Most of the Supreme Court is Catholic. Catholics aren't a monolith, they are statistically representative of Americans. Who is targeting Catholics? Is this 1920?

Anti-Catholic hate doesn't care if you're liberal or conservative -- all Catholics are targets. What does the Supreme Court have to do with it? (Twenty-percent of Americans are Catholic, so yes, like Jews at 2.4% of the American population, Catholics have at times been overrepresented on the current Supreme Court.)

Of course it's not 1920 (nor 1933), but anti-Catholicism is a scourge that never goes away, as we saw today.

He didn’t choose the school because it was Catholic, he chose it because he used to go there

This, and/or because his mother used to work there. Shooter was probably a Catholic.

Ant-Catholicism is hate no matter who perpetrates it.

It's ridiculous to call this an anti-Catholic hate attack. That's like calling every murder in USA an anti-American hate attack.

It is most definitely anti-Catholic hate, which is on the rise in America. You sound like you need to examine your conscience for anti-Catholicism.

Literally every time a mosque or synagogue is attacked we are told it's anti-Islam or anti-Semitism hatred, yet Catholics are treated as second-class citizens when we are attacked. This in and of itself is a sign of the growing crisis of anti-Catholicism in America.

Unfortunately, many Catholic Churches have aligned themselves with MAGA. You also have high-level converts like Vance. I left the Catholic Church because of it. This was really an attack against MAGA.

This is false information. You only believe it because of the impression you get from the news you absorb. It's not real life.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

50% of Catholics are liberal. Most of the Supreme Court is Catholic. Catholics aren't a monolith, they are statistically representative of Americans. Who is targeting Catholics? Is this 1920?

Anti-Catholic hate doesn't care if you're liberal or conservative -- all Catholics are targets. What does the Supreme Court have to do with it? (Twenty-percent of Americans are Catholic, so yes, like Jews at 2.4% of the American population, Catholics have at times been overrepresented on the current Supreme Court.)

Of course it's not 1920 (nor 1933), but anti-Catholicism is a scourge that never goes away, as we saw today.

He didn’t choose the school because it was Catholic, he chose it because he used to go there

This, and/or because his mother used to work there. Shooter was probably a Catholic.

Ant-Catholicism is hate no matter who perpetrates it.

It's ridiculous to call this an anti-Catholic hate attack. That's like calling every murder in USA an anti-American hate attack.

It is most definitely anti-Catholic hate, which is on the rise in America. You sound like you need to examine your conscience for anti-Catholicism.

Literally every time a mosque or synagogue is attacked we are told it's anti-Islam or anti-Semitism hatred, yet Catholics are treated as second-class citizens when we are attacked. This in and of itself is a sign of the growing crisis of anti-Catholicism in America.

Unfortunately, many Catholic Churches have aligned themselves with MAGA. You also have high-level converts like Vance. I left the Catholic Church because of it. This was really an attack against MAGA.

That anti-Catholic trope is a widely-debunked conspiracy theory. And a canard. There are Catholic Republicans and Catholic Democrats and all are victims of this anti-Catholic violence. Casual justifications of anti-Catholicism like saying they "aligned themselves with MAGA" really shows you the banality of evil.

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

50% of Catholics are liberal. Most of the Supreme Court is Catholic. Catholics aren't a monolith, they are statistically representative of Americans. Who is targeting Catholics? Is this 1920?

Anti-Catholic hate doesn't care if you're liberal or conservative -- all Catholics are targets. What does the Supreme Court have to do with it? (Twenty-percent of Americans are Catholic, so yes, like Jews at 2.4% of the American population, Catholics have at times been overrepresented on the current Supreme Court.)

Of course it's not 1920 (nor 1933), but anti-Catholicism is a scourge that never goes away, as we saw today.

He didn’t choose the school because it was Catholic, he chose it because he used to go there

This, and/or because his mother used to work there. Shooter was probably a Catholic.

Ant-Catholicism is hate no matter who perpetrates it.

It's ridiculous to call this an anti-Catholic hate attack. That's like calling every murder in USA an anti-American hate attack.

It is most definitely anti-Catholic hate, which is on the rise in America. You sound like you need to examine your conscience for anti-Catholicism.

Literally every time a mosque or synagogue is attacked we are told it's anti-Islam or anti-Semitism hatred, yet Catholics are treated as second-class citizens when we are attacked. This in and of itself is a sign of the growing crisis of anti-Catholicism in America.

Unfortunately, many Catholic Churches have aligned themselves with MAGA. You also have high-level converts like Vance. I left the Catholic Church because of it. This was really an attack against MAGA.

This is false information. You only believe it because of the impression you get from the news you absorb. It's not real life.

There are dozens of discussions in the religion forum about how politics differs from one parish to another.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

Conservatives automatically reject anything these orgs report, but their analyses come from legit independent research. The fact is, research shows we can save childrens lives even within 2a.

PS, random anecdotes do not refute larger statistics.

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I'm curious what drugs the shooter was on the last few months and day of this event. Sounds like they were around a lot of drugs plus had mental illness. Deadly combination.

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

50% of Catholics are liberal. Most of the Supreme Court is Catholic. Catholics aren't a monolith, they are statistically representative of Americans. Who is targeting Catholics? Is this 1920?

Anti-Catholic hate doesn't care if you're liberal or conservative -- all Catholics are targets. What does the Supreme Court have to do with it? (Twenty-percent of Americans are Catholic, so yes, like Jews at 2.4% of the American population, Catholics have at times been overrepresented on the current Supreme Court.)

Of course it's not 1920 (nor 1933), but anti-Catholicism is a scourge that never goes away, as we saw today.

He didn’t choose the school because it was Catholic, he chose it because he used to go there

This, and/or because his mother used to work there. Shooter was probably a Catholic.

Ant-Catholicism is hate no matter who perpetrates it.

It's ridiculous to call this an anti-Catholic hate attack. That's like calling every murder in USA an anti-American hate attack.

It is most definitely anti-Catholic hate, which is on the rise in America. You sound like you need to examine your conscience for anti-Catholicism.

Literally every time a mosque or synagogue is attacked we are told it's anti-Islam or anti-Semitism hatred, yet Catholics are treated as second-class citizens when we are attacked. This in and of itself is a sign of the growing crisis of anti-Catholicism in America.

Unfortunately, many Catholic Churches have aligned themselves with MAGA. You also have high-level converts like Vance. I left the Catholic Church because of it. This was really an attack against MAGA.

That anti-Catholic trope is a widely-debunked conspiracy theory. And a canard. There are Catholic Republicans and Catholic Democrats and all are victims of this anti-Catholic violence. Casual justifications of anti-Catholicism like saying they "aligned themselves with MAGA" really shows you the banality of evil.

The national stats on catholic voting showed about a pretty even 50/50 split between Trump and Harris (similar to Trump and Clinton). Biden did somewhat better with Catholics, for obvious reasons. But there's a huge variation between churches -- if you look at Sacred Heart in DC or St Stephen's, you're not going to find 50% Trump voters -- I'd be surprised if you find 5% Trump voters. But if you look at the Catholic Church out in Virginia that Scalia attended....the demographics will be different. My sense is that this church in Minneapolis was not very MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what drugs the shooter was on the last few months and day of this event. Sounds like they were around a lot of drugs plus had mental illness. Deadly combination.

Sounds like they were possibly not on drugs but needed to be. Trans male to female would he on estrogen if anything which would decrease aggression. Sounds like they could have used some antipsychotics though. Maybe a bipolar episode couples with aspergers, who knows....

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

Tell us you don’t have the slightest clue about firearms or firearms law without using those words . . . Oh, you just did.

The exact model(s) of firearm(s) this demented psychopath used haven’t been announced (or I haven’t seen the information). The firearm criminally misused at Uvalde reportedly was a semiautomatic rifle, not a machine gun.

Nobody can know why, despite expending a reportedly significant amount of ammunition, this particular wretch managed to hit relatively few of the fish in a barrel he was targeting, but the fact that he reportedly stayed outside and shot through what were probably at least semi-opaque stained glass windows would be a good bet for starters.

Lawfully owned machine guns are essentially never used in crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

Tell us you don’t have the slightest clue about firearms or firearms law without using those words . . . Oh, you just did.

The exact model(s) of firearm(s) this demented psychopath used haven’t been announced (or I haven’t seen the information). The firearm criminally misused at Uvalde reportedly was a semiautomatic rifle, not a machine gun.

Nobody can know why, despite expending a reportedly significant amount of ammunition, this particular wretch managed to hit relatively few of the fish in a barrel he was targeting, but the fact that he reportedly stayed outside and shot through what were probably at least semi-opaque stained glass windows would be a good bet for starters.

Lawfully owned machine guns are essentially never used in crimes.

Regardless, states with more permissive gun laws will see excessive pediatric deaths. Restrictions can be applied within 2a to save children's lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

Tell us you don’t have the slightest clue about firearms or firearms law without using those words . . . Oh, you just did.

The exact model(s) of firearm(s) this demented psychopath used haven’t been announced (or I haven’t seen the information). The firearm criminally misused at Uvalde reportedly was a semiautomatic rifle, not a machine gun.

Nobody can know why, despite expending a reportedly significant amount of ammunition, this particular wretch managed to hit relatively few of the fish in a barrel he was targeting, but the fact that he reportedly stayed outside and shot through what were probably at least semi-opaque stained glass windows would be a good bet for starters.

Lawfully owned machine guns are essentially never used in crimes.

Semi-Automatic rifles are dangerous and we should ban them. We should outlaw them. We should invest a lot of money in buying back a lot of the ones that are out there. And we should be able to walk around in this country, the entire country, without worrying about anyone getting gunned down with a semi-automatic rifle.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what drugs the shooter was on the last few months and day of this event. Sounds like they were around a lot of drugs plus had mental illness. Deadly combination.

Sounds like they were possibly not on drugs but needed to be. Trans male to female would he on estrogen if anything which would decrease aggression. Sounds like they could have used some antipsychotics though. Maybe a bipolar episode couples with aspergers, who knows....

It was taking SSRIs. I guarantee it.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

We can work within the 2a and some states already do with success.

The Gifford Foundation and Everytown for Gun Safety both have really good resources about changing state laws within the limits of the constitution. Minnesota does prohibit the possession of fully automatic guns -- in another state, the killer might have murdered dozens of kids in the same time span. The fact that there are so many survivors who were shot but not killed is also a result of the weapon available to the murderer -- it wasn't like the Uvalde situation.

Tell us you don’t have the slightest clue about firearms or firearms law without using those words . . . Oh, you just did.

The exact model(s) of firearm(s) this demented psychopath used haven’t been announced (or I haven’t seen the information). The firearm criminally misused at Uvalde reportedly was a semiautomatic rifle, not a machine gun.

Nobody can know why, despite expending a reportedly significant amount of ammunition, this particular wretch managed to hit relatively few of the fish in a barrel he was targeting, but the fact that he reportedly stayed outside and shot through what were probably at least semi-opaque stained glass windows would be a good bet for starters.

Lawfully owned machine guns are essentially never used in crimes.

Semi-Automatic rifles are dangerous and we should ban them. We should outlaw them. We should invest a lot of money in buying back a lot of the ones that are out there. And we should be able to walk around in this country, the entire country, without worrying about anyone getting gunned down with a semi-automatic rifle.

Don't. They are going to get distracted by espousing a bunch of technical info about how automatic rifles are not different than this or that style of gun, pistol, whatever, with x ammo. It is a useless exercise and they clearly do know technical gun info better than you.

The bottom line is that within 2a, we can still enact laws that save children's lives and some states already do this.

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“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?

NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.

Then what do we do about all of the mass shooters who aren’t trans? (That would be most of them.)

+1 The solution is to not allow males to own guns since the vast majority of mass shooters are male.

Still wouldn’t have helped here because the murderer was “female”.

+1

We’ve all had “trans women ARE women!” unrelentingly beaten into our heads for the last 3-4 years. Fine. You win. This shooter IS a woman. Period. End of discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

Oh sure! Republicans will certainly agree to pay higher taxes so that democrats can solve a social problem.

I’m surrounded by effing morons.

The Republican party cut mental health funding including for schools.

I am so tired of hearing them yell about our mental health issues and pull the plug on addressing them.

If you want to scream mental health, put your tax money and votes toward it. Otherwise STFU.

For the last time. Addressing mental health doesn’t matter if left wingers bully psychology associations into declassifying disorders such as gender dysmorphia and treating mental illnesses like the shooter had as something to be celebrated, not treated.

DP. Are you advocating for institutionalizing all people who identify as trans?

NP. The world would be a safer place if they were institutionalized for their mental illness. Instead, we celebrate it like it’s something to be proud of.

That’s why we ended up with groups like transtifa.

Wait we can put all of MAGA in an institution? I'm in.

Institution?

C’mon, we all know you meant “death camp”! :lol: