ENCL Nationals - Girls

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Anonymous wrote:Any update on the Arlington 2011's?


Lost.


score?


1-0


Bummer. Was interested to see how they would do against a cali team like the Blues.


Blues 10-0.
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Parent one of the 2011/2010 who didn’t get invited to the training with Lyon B. Ticked off that they didn’t invite the whole team because nobody is that head and shoulders above the rest. They say they want development but this just a slap in the face.

The PP who said it was divisive is right. I know all coaches have their favorites but you need to keep the team unity. FVU was already shaky with the union and brave parents fighting but now I see that the coaches aren’t doing anything to bring people together.
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once again union parents have taken over another thread
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Anonymous wrote:Parent one of the 2011/2010 who didn’t get invited to the training with Lyon B. Ticked off that they didn’t invite the whole team because nobody is that head and shoulders above the rest. They say they want development but this just a slap in the face.

The PP who said it was divisive is right. I know all coaches have their favorites but you need to keep the team unity. FVU was already shaky with the union and brave parents fighting but now I see that the coaches aren’t doing anything to bring people together.


That's exactly why 1/2 the union 09 team left after the first year. They don't do anything to bring the girls together.
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FYI, SoCal almost always dominates the young age groups. Older age groups not so much. One 09 team (Midwest has two), Zero 08s, Two 07s, and one 06/05 (who did win the whole thing).

SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.

If Penn Fusion can win out, they could be ECNL club of the year.
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Anonymous wrote:FYI, SoCal almost always dominates the young age groups. Older age groups not so much. One 09 team (Midwest has two), Zero 08s, Two 07s, and one 06/05 (who did win the whole thing).

SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.

If Penn Fusion can win out, they could be ECNL club of the year.

Socal teams slow down as players get older becasue many have already committed and they don't see the value of spending crazy money for travel to potentially get hurt.

Also flying across the country just to play against teams you play in league isn't that exciting.
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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. 2010 Union loses to Surf 0-10.


What a disgrace.


It just takes time for players to learn union’s tactics. Very complicated. Next level.



I don't think it matters against Surf. They have good odds of winning it all. VA Union a big longshot darkhorse. Good opportunity for the girls to play top California teams. Question everyone at Seattle are asking in this age is who is better, Surf or MVLA? VA Union kids get to come home saying they played against both these teams.



Subbing system is a circus. Why were 2011 players allowed to go an play and suck up playing time when they didn't start on their own team, and when the 2010 team already had a full roster? Club politics at it's worst.
Awful.


Lol! Go ahead and blame a 10-0 loss on 2011 players that barely saw the field. This has got to be a VA Union 2010 parent.


Sounds like a departing VA Union parent…sad


Fair play to VA McLean Union. Their 2 best 2011s start looking at other clubs so they invite them to Seattle to lose 10-0.


I was told they are not the best 2011s on the team. Politics as usual. Both players just came back from injury and were not in any playing shape to go compete with the 2010s. The third 2011 player who also went almost did not make the 2011 team.

I know a lot of the 2010 parents were not happy these these girls went with the team but I also know some of the 2011 parents were also not happy when they heard these three were going.

Not aware one of the two is leaving. Do you know where they are going?


I heard that they invited the two to keep them happy because they have options elsewhere. The third who almost didn’t make the team has a sister on the 2010s who is v good which is how she made the team and got invited to go to Seattle so again keeping families happy. Politics as usual.

Also heard both 2010 and other 2011 parents not happy with this.


Would be interested to hear where the one player is going.

FVU see what you have to look forward to? $hi+$h0w



Politics as usual.

Supposedly they also allowed two 2010s and a 2011 two private sessions with the professional reserve team that came into town. 2 more players are now rumored to be leaving but at least they are keeping parents happy. They’re asking for a repeat of Seattle IF they make it back to Nationals next year.


This must be all very divisive for the team?! Nobody on the team or club questions or reports all this unfair business ? Just doing it here on an anonymous forum is not getting anything changed.


All part of NM lining his pockets.


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Guess we can close out this thread since no DMV teams left. Unless San Diego Dad wants to keep this going.
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SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.


What's their advantage? Weather is warm? Large population? Gotta be more than just that. What's keeping DMV from being as competitive?
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SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.


What's their advantage? Weather is warm? Large population? Gotta be more than just that. What's keeping DMV from being as competitive?
as others have echoed. Coaches, politics and crummy foundations at the academy level.

We cant hide behind the weather, indoor facilities and year round futbol. Teams north and south of us are thriving post season.

I know of at least three clubs w divisive coaches who have attempted to peg their “star” players at the expense of pissing of the real stars of their teams. Parents are waking up to it however. And it doesn’t bode well for the next off season. Please note the thriving clubs dont have all the turnover and are playing team ball…. Egos removed.
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SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.


What's their advantage? Weather is warm? Large population? Gotta be more than just that. What's keeping DMV from being as competitive?
as others have echoed. Coaches, politics and crummy foundations at the academy level.

We cant hide behind the weather, indoor facilities and year round futbol. Teams north and south of us are thriving post season.

I know of at least three clubs w divisive coaches who have attempted to peg their “star” players at the expense of pissing of the real stars of their teams. Parents are waking up to it however. And it doesn’t bode well for the next off season. Please note the thriving clubs dont have all the turnover and are playing team ball…. Egos removed.

It's also parents who only care about wins which forces coaches into implementing shortcuts to keep their job. This creates a negative reinforcement loop that culminates in kickball teams that slaughter B teams but can't compete against high level A teams.
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There is no Destination club in our area. Talent diluted. Look at Penn Fusion or PDA. Those are destination clubs for large Metro areas and families will drive well over an hour each way to have their DD play there.
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SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.


What's their advantage? Weather is warm? Large population? Gotta be more than just that. What's keeping DMV from being as competitive?
as others have echoed. Coaches, politics and crummy foundations at the academy level.

We cant hide behind the weather, indoor facilities and year round futbol. Teams north and south of us are thriving post season.

I know of at least three clubs w divisive coaches who have attempted to peg their “star” players at the expense of pissing of the real stars of their teams. Parents are waking up to it however. And it doesn’t bode well for the next off season. Please note the thriving clubs dont have all the turnover and are playing team ball…. Egos removed.

It's also parents who only care about wins which forces coaches into implementing shortcuts to keep their job. This creates a negative reinforcement loop that culminates in kickball teams that slaughter B teams but can't compete against high level A teams.

It’s the parents fault! It’s the coaches fault! It’s the clubs fault! It’s the league structure! It’s too much money! It’s bad leadership at US soccer! It’s playing by birth years instead of grade levels! It’s the weather!

So many excuses. Maybe these are all just symptoms but not the cause to be “fixed”. Maybe as a country, as a culture, we’re just not as good at soccer as other countries or other more popular sports.
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Anonymous wrote:
SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.


What's their advantage? Weather is warm? Large population? Gotta be more than just that. What's keeping DMV from being as competitive?
as others have echoed. Coaches, politics and crummy foundations at the academy level.

We cant hide behind the weather, indoor facilities and year round futbol. Teams north and south of us are thriving post season.

I know of at least three clubs w divisive coaches who have attempted to peg their “star” players at the expense of pissing of the real stars of their teams. Parents are waking up to it however. And it doesn’t bode well for the next off season. Please note the thriving clubs dont have all the turnover and are playing team ball…. Egos removed.

It's also parents who only care about wins which forces coaches into implementing shortcuts to keep their job. This creates a negative reinforcement loop that culminates in kickball teams that slaughter B teams but can't compete against high level A teams.

It’s the parents fault! It’s the coaches fault! It’s the clubs fault! It’s the league structure! It’s too much money! It’s bad leadership at US soccer! It’s playing by birth years instead of grade levels! It’s the weather!

So many excuses. Maybe these are all just symptoms but not the cause to be “fixed”. Maybe as a country, as a culture, we’re just not as good at soccer as other countries or other more popular sports.


The comparison here is with other US clubs, not other countries. CA does it better within the US culture. So does Texas. Texas is even more curious because they have a huge, dominate football culture that competes for athletic boys and they still manage to produce great soccer players
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Anonymous wrote:
SoCal has at least a couple major advantages but they will never admit it. Egos in SoCal would never admit to any advantage.


What's their advantage? Weather is warm? Large population? Gotta be more than just that. What's keeping DMV from being as competitive?
as others have echoed. Coaches, politics and crummy foundations at the academy level.

We cant hide behind the weather, indoor facilities and year round futbol. Teams north and south of us are thriving post season.

I know of at least three clubs w divisive coaches who have attempted to peg their “star” players at the expense of pissing of the real stars of their teams. Parents are waking up to it however. And it doesn’t bode well for the next off season. Please note the thriving clubs dont have all the turnover and are playing team ball…. Egos removed.

It's also parents who only care about wins which forces coaches into implementing shortcuts to keep their job. This creates a negative reinforcement loop that culminates in kickball teams that slaughter B teams but can't compete against high level A teams.

It’s the parents fault! It’s the coaches fault! It’s the clubs fault! It’s the league structure! It’s too much money! It’s bad leadership at US soccer! It’s playing by birth years instead of grade levels! It’s the weather!

So many excuses. Maybe these are all just symptoms but not the cause to be “fixed”. Maybe as a country, as a culture, we’re just not as good at soccer as other countries or other more popular sports.


The comparison here is with other US clubs, not other countries. CA does it better within the US culture. So does Texas. Texas is even more curious because they have a huge, dominate football culture that competes for athletic boys and they still manage to produce great soccer players


California teams also play year-round. they start in August and finish in May. We stop for high school soccer.
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