"No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

None of the above is not a party or a platform or anything else that is politically or governmentally useful. Manchin? He’s the leader of nothing and no one. You would be voting for nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

None of the above is not a party or a platform or anything else that is politically or governmentally useful. Manchin? He’s the leader of nothing and no one. You would be voting for nothing.

You would be voting for trump.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

Is there anyone specific you are thinking of?

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

Is there anyone specific you are thinking of?

Good question. There are current and former state governors that would be more attractive than Trump or Biden to a large segment of voters such as Whitmer and Hogan. Whitmer seems committed to her attachment with Democratic Party for a likely future run on their ticket as is presumably the case with many other electable politicians that are currently on the sidelines. Hogan needs to run soon before his age becomes a negative factor but a 2024 run seems less and less likely for him as each day passes. Then there are people like Hillary, Gore, and Romney that are younger than Biden and Trump but seemingly they've have realized their running for president days are behind him. For a 3rd party to be successful in 2024, a moderate politician with big name recognition would have to effectively split from their current party with an announcement to run very, very soon. I can't think of any that are likely to do that but I hope I'm wrong because it would make for a very interesting 2024 race. No labels or any other 3rd party with an unknown to most candidate is or would be a waste of time.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

Are they going to run a forced birther or not?

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

Are they going to run a forced birther or not?

If they want to peel off votes from Biden, they will have to run a pro- choice, bring back roe candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

Is there anyone specific you are thinking of?

Good question. There are current and former state governors that would be more attractive than Trump or Biden to a large segment of voters such as Whitmer and Hogan. Whitmer seems committed to her attachment with Democratic Party for a likely future run on their ticket as is presumably the case with many other electable politicians that are currently on the sidelines. Hogan needs to run soon before his age becomes a negative factor but a 2024 run seems less and less likely for him as each day passes. Then there are people like Hillary, Gore, and Romney that are younger than Biden and Trump but seemingly they've have realized their running for president days are behind him. For a 3rd party to be successful in 2024, a moderate politician with big name recognition would have to effectively split from their current party with an announcement to run very, very soon. I can't think of any that are likely to do that but I hope I'm wrong because it would make for a very interesting 2024 race. No labels or any other 3rd party with an unknown to most candidate is or would be a waste of time.

Is it possible that Hogan and Whitmer are perceived as being more “moderate” because they don’t have to deal with the intense scrutiny that POTUS does? You like them (and others) because Fox News isn’t relentlessly criticizing them. I honestly believe that the moderate you are seeking is Joe Biden. If he loses the 2024 election, he will concede to ensure an orderly transfer of power. If he wins, he will step down after 4 years in accordance with the 22nd amendment. Trump will do neither of these things.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Yeah right because Hogan Manchin and Romney along with Lieberman are such huge Trump supporters. I wish there were 5 or 6 different political parties.

+1 If they were to sooner than later actually put forth a viable candidate with a stated platform and official announcement of their 2024 candidacy, all that will matter is how attractive or unattractive that candidate and platform are relative to Trump and Biden. Considering Trump and Biden's obvious weaknesses as candidates, it is certainly reasonable to assume a moderate, well-qualified, fit for office candidate with some name recognition could garner enough support to mount a serious challenge to Trump and Biden. Until they have an actual candidate in the race, debating the potential of this 3rd party is silly. If a strong 3rd party candidate surfaces, I won't discount them and I won't shout down voters that give them serious consideration. If the R and D parties had stronger candidates, this conversation wouldn't be necessary.

Is there anyone specific you are thinking of?

Good question. There are current and former state governors that would be more attractive than Trump or Biden to a large segment of voters such as Whitmer and Hogan. Whitmer seems committed to her attachment with Democratic Party for a likely future run on their ticket as is presumably the case with many other electable politicians that are currently on the sidelines. Hogan needs to run soon before his age becomes a negative factor but a 2024 run seems less and less likely for him as each day passes. Then there are people like Hillary, Gore, and Romney that are younger than Biden and Trump but seemingly they've have realized their running for president days are behind him. For a 3rd party to be successful in 2024, a moderate politician with big name recognition would have to effectively split from their current party with an announcement to run very, very soon. I can't think of any that are likely to do that but I hope I'm wrong because it would make for a very interesting 2024 race. No labels or any other 3rd party with an unknown to most candidate is or would be a waste of time.

Is it possible that Hogan and Whitmer are perceived as being more “moderate” because they don’t have to deal with the intense scrutiny that POTUS does? You like them (and others) because Fox News isn’t relentlessly criticizing them. I honestly believe that the moderate you are seeking is Joe Biden. If he loses the 2024 election, he will concede to ensure an orderly transfer of power. If he wins, he will step down after 4 years in accordance with the 22nd amendment. Trump will do neither of these things.

No one said Biden wasn't moderate. He is too old to be trusted with another 4 year term as most powerful person in the world. Trump is too old as well and also has the maniac thing going on. None of this is rocket science. Perhaps you are not old enough to understand what getting old does to your body and mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

True, none of the above is the sentiment of the majority and for good reason but if it isn't already too late for a 3rd viable candidate to enter the race, it will be very soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative here- I would vote for Manchin Gabbard.

Of course you would. That is the point. They aren't "dems" but have been labeled as such.

Here we go again. Let’s burn our teammates no matter how many times they pay their party dues and vote our way. Never good enough. I’ve seen Obama branded too conservative in these boards. It is sick.

No, what’s sick is the number of Republicans who like to pose as Democrats, or worse, Democrats who seemingly don’t understand what’s at stake here and what will happen if too many people peel off.

Your options are Biden or Trump. Do you not remember all that we lost under Trump? Assuming you’re actually a Democrat, do you think all the pride in racism that was unlocked is a positive? His degrading everything? Refusing to just be normal? You enjoyed that? You enjoyed the bile every morning when you picked up your phone and dirtbag Republicans just told you to “ignore it” like that’s a rational thing to have to do with a sitting president.

Do you not believe the GOP when they announce what they plan to do? What problem do you think will be solved by throwing away your vote on a nobody who can’t win? Do you think more poor people will get rights? You think the environment will get cleaned and global warming worked on? Do you think “drill, baby, drill” is going to go away?

Or maybe you always hated that women were slowly getting more rights?

There’s no upside in voting for a third party clown.

God help us if Biden has health issues like McConnell. But that will NEVER happen. HE WILL BE LUCID FOREVER.

Trump could have a health problem too, but everyone wants him to lose so that possibility does not need to be addressed.

I think the 22nd amendment should be repealed so that Trump and Biden's rotting corpses can run against each other for eternity. That appears to be what America wants.

Someone should do characters of them for Halloween! A house in FFC on route 7 used to do that when I lived there. I wonder if they still do that.

[Anonymous]

Aren’t these “third way” “nonpartisan” entities stalking horses for normie corporate interests?

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative here- I would vote for Manchin Gabbard.

Of course you would. That is the point. They aren't "dems" but have been labeled as such.

Here we go again. Let’s burn our teammates no matter how many times they pay their party dues and vote our way. Never good enough. I’ve seen Obama branded too conservative in these boards. It is sick.

No, what’s sick is the number of Republicans who like to pose as Democrats, or worse, Democrats who seemingly don’t understand what’s at stake here and what will happen if too many people peel off.

Your options are Biden or Trump. Do you not remember all that we lost under Trump? Assuming you’re actually a Democrat, do you think all the pride in racism that was unlocked is a positive? His degrading everything? Refusing to just be normal? You enjoyed that? You enjoyed the bile every morning when you picked up your phone and dirtbag Republicans just told you to “ignore it” like that’s a rational thing to have to do with a sitting president.

Do you not believe the GOP when they announce what they plan to do? What problem do you think will be solved by throwing away your vote on a nobody who can’t win? Do you think more poor people will get rights? You think the environment will get cleaned and global warming worked on? Do you think “drill, baby, drill” is going to go away?

Or maybe you always hated that women were slowly getting more rights?

There’s no upside in voting for a third party clown.

God help us if Biden has health issues like McConnell. But that will NEVER happen. HE WILL BE LUCID FOREVER.

Trump could have a health problem too, but everyone wants him to lose so that possibility does not need to be addressed.

I think the 22nd amendment should be repealed so that Trump and Biden's rotting corpses can run against each other for eternity. That appears to be what America wants.

Someone should do characters of them for Halloween! A house in FFC on route 7 used to do that when I lived there. I wonder if they still do that.

It will be a real shame if SNL isn't around next year to make fun of these geezers running for president.

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Anonymous wrote:The weakest argument against the no labels party is that it is simply going to elect Biden or elect Trump. There is so much time left and if enough support was generated now, the country could achieve what over 70% of the people really want and vote: NONE OF THE ABOVE

The strongest argument that No Labels is only in this to elect Trump is that it’s full of Republican donors.

Not Republican donors, TRUMP donors. Tells you everything you need to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need an anybody but Biden or Trump party.

+1 please!