3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing to see here. Probably had too many doors and too little God at that Christian school.

Thoughts and prayers, but certainly no actionable changes needed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/nashville-school-shooting-green-hills-b2308856.html

What do doors have to do with anything in this tragic situation ?

Because Republicans blamed uvalde on the fact that they needed more doors and more doors to be locked, not on the fact that the guy had guns. To Republican stores are the problem not guns.

This was said at one of the press conferences yesterday:

"There was another location that was mentioned, but because of a threat assessment by the suspect, too much security, they decided not to in that area."

Locked doors combined with school security personnel can certainly be a deterrent.

No it did not prevent the attack. What’s the point of moving the attack to an easier target? Kids still died so what do you think was deterred?

There should be no easy targets.

It's literally impossible to secure every single possible target in the country. Targets could be anything with unarmed people living their lives. It's easier to ban guns that to secure every single possible soft target. My kids and I are soft targets taking a walk around the block or playing in the park or going to swimming lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:I take it the shooter was a Trans person in drag, right? Because that is the biggest threat to our kids, right?

Identified as a "he" on social media. Not sure about the drag.

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Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

I think you might be surprised at how many churches have parishioners who conceal carry.
And, clergy who do the same.
My church does. And, we have a local Sheriff who makes visits to 3 churches in our area every Sunday. In uniform. For security.

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Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

Or that God's will is to have them turned into swiss cheese during bible study.

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More pertinent info his morning:
Birth gender female Audrey
Self transitioning male Aiden (using male pronoun)
Unknown whether they were in any stage of medical transition/hormones
Media posted what looks like an elementary school portrait of Audrey (female) with red bow
In the video up thread they park, shoot through side doors to gain entry
Cam footage shows they appear male looking
CNN interviewed a former HS classmate who received a text message from shooter stating they will die by suicide/something bad is going to happen
The classmate contacted her dad who advised her to call suicide hotline
Classmate also contacted LEO division at 10:13 (she stated this specific time which may mean she was the first call)
Classmate sent a screen shot to another former classmate who was not aware of the situation
IMO it seems targeted— daughter of Pastor (not in the building), and head of school.
Others likely collateral damage— custodian, 2 other children and substitute teacher possibly in the classroom of pastor’s child

When searching for the shooters exact text message to former classmate, this popped up. Not intentionally focusing on shooter. Read if you want to TL;DR High school was inclusive of LGBT, shooter was artistic and had friends.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11909317/High-school-friend-Nashville-school-shooter-says-sweet-funny-school.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

If its God's will.

That being said, there were some shootings in the past few years where armed security/parishioners were present.

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Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

I think you might be surprised at how many churches have parishioners who conceal carry.
And, clergy who do the same.
My church does. And, we have a local Sheriff who makes visits to 3 churches in our area every Sunday. In uniform. For security.

Surprised that christians are hypocrites? Yeah right!

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Anonymous wrote:I will get a bit of joy to see parents if dead children interviewed and asked if they had been gun freedom supporters.

I would like them to be asked, where were all the good guys with the guns as their children were being butchered.

I bet the parents were all Republicans. Remember, this is a private Christian school in Tennessee that we’re talking about.

In Nashville.
Do you know anything about Nashville?

They voted for Biden 2 to 1.
And, the Senate vote was similar.

The families at this school are probably from the suburbs.

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Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

I think you might be surprised at how many churches have parishioners who conceal carry.
And, clergy who do the same.
My church does. And, we have a local Sheriff who makes visits to 3 churches in our area every Sunday. In uniform. For security.

Surprised that christians are hypocrites? Yeah right!

Hypocrites? How?
Because they know that "gun free zones" are ripe for being targets?
Because they take measures to protect their congregation?
Please elaborate.

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A source close to the Hale family told The Daily Beast on Monday night that Hale was autistic, but high-functioning.

“And relatively recently announced she was transgender, identifying as he/him,” the source said, asking to remain unnamed so as to avoid additional family strife.

Reached by phone, Hale’s mother, Norma Fort Hale, told an ABC News reporter, “It’s very difficult now, we ask for privacy. I really can’t talk right now, I think I lost my daughter today.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-audrey-hale?ref=home

Well that checks out. She probably lost her son a long time ago. My mom lost me and I don’t know any trans people on good terms with their parents and I know a lot of other trans people. I’m sure someone out there exists but it seems pretty common to be completely estranged from one or both parents once you come out as trans. It just further isolates trans people if they don’t go out and try to find community and found family.

As the mother of a trans kid, I did not isolate my kid - my kid isolated me. Ask a question? PHOBIC!! Express a concern about treatment interfering with medicated conditions? PHOBIC! BIGOT! Spouse to me in private: "If you ask anything, our kid will commit suicide!" Me: "That sounds more like blackmail"

I’m sure your child has a completely different view of how you behaved. For most of the people I know, their estrangement is related to their family’s christianity. It’s certainly true in my case. I’m sure my mother makes herself the victim in my transition as well. It’s all about her. I harmed her by transitioning. She didn’t want me to do this. What became apparent over time was that to her, my body and my life was just an extension of her’s. I was nothing but an NPC in the story of her life. Your child being LGBTQ isn’t about you.

Not that poster, but trans teens/young adults are still teens/young adults. And they are self-centered, all the same. That's how humans are built. That's how we survive. But it can make for some rough relationships. I'm in my 50s and have had peers transition in their 30s and 40s and it looked much different than what teens are doing today. And their relationships with their immediate family are much healthier, likely because they were more mature when dealing with such a significant life change.

The shooter was 28, well beyond the magic age of 26 when the brain is supposed to be "done". This trans man seems to have had a vendetta. Why else would there be a manifesto?

If autism is present, it's a much longer journey. But I was speaking about a relationship with a parent, not a shooting.

I know a lot of trans people in their 30's and 40's. I'm one. None of us have good relationships with our parents. I know some people that still talk to their parents but even those aren't that common. One was told that she was afflicted with demonic possession by her catholic mother.

The trans people I know are utterly miserable in every way so that tracks.

+100

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will get a bit of joy to see parents if dead children interviewed and asked if they had been gun freedom supporters.

I would like them to be asked, where were all the good guys with the guns as their children were being butchered.

I bet the parents were all Republicans. Remember, this is a private Christian school in Tennessee that we’re talking about.

In Nashville.
Do you know anything about Nashville?

They voted for Biden 2 to 1.
And, the Senate vote was similar.

The families at this school are probably from the suburbs.

How do you know? Or, are you just speculating like many do here when they don't have facts?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel that the media are doing a great harm to women by calling the shooter a woman. Women simply DO NOT do such things.

Stop calling the shooter a woman.

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There are examples in this thread of Women doing the exact same thing. How many Women kill their own children? Plenty. Women simply DO such things, wether you like it or not

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Anonymous wrote:I feel that the media are doing a great harm to women by calling the shooter a woman. Women simply DO NOT do such things.

Stop calling the shooter a woman.

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There are examples in this thread of Women doing the exact same thing. How many Women kill their own children? Plenty. Women simply DO such things, wether you like it or not

Bullcrap. It is extremely rare.

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A source close to the Hale family told The Daily Beast on Monday night that Hale was autistic, but high-functioning.

“And relatively recently announced she was transgender, identifying as he/him,” the source said, asking to remain unnamed so as to avoid additional family strife.

Reached by phone, Hale’s mother, Norma Fort Hale, told an ABC News reporter, “It’s very difficult now, we ask for privacy. I really can’t talk right now, I think I lost my daughter today.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-covenant-school-shooting-suspect-identified-as-audrey-hale?ref=home

Well that checks out. She probably lost her son a long time ago. My mom lost me and I don’t know any trans people on good terms with their parents and I know a lot of other trans people. I’m sure someone out there exists but it seems pretty common to be completely estranged from one or both parents once you come out as trans. It just further isolates trans people if they don’t go out and try to find community and found family.

As the mother of a trans kid, I did not isolate my kid - my kid isolated me. Ask a question? PHOBIC!! Express a concern about treatment interfering with medicated conditions? PHOBIC! BIGOT! Spouse to me in private: "If you ask anything, our kid will commit suicide!" Me: "That sounds more like blackmail"

I’m sure your child has a completely different view of how you behaved. For most of the people I know, their estrangement is related to their family’s christianity. It’s certainly true in my case. I’m sure my mother makes herself the victim in my transition as well. It’s all about her. I harmed her by transitioning. She didn’t want me to do this. What became apparent over time was that to her, my body and my life was just an extension of her’s. I was nothing but an NPC in the story of her life. Your child being LGBTQ isn’t about you.

Not that poster, but trans teens/young adults are still teens/young adults. And they are self-centered, all the same. That's how humans are built. That's how we survive. But it can make for some rough relationships. I'm in my 50s and have had peers transition in their 30s and 40s and it looked much different than what teens are doing today. And their relationships with their immediate family are much healthier, likely because they were more mature when dealing with such a significant life change.

The shooter was 28, well beyond the magic age of 26 when the brain is supposed to be "done". This trans man seems to have had a vendetta. Why else would there be a manifesto?

If autism is present, it's a much longer journey. But I was speaking about a relationship with a parent, not a shooting.

I know a lot of trans people in their 30's and 40's. I'm one. None of us have good relationships with our parents. I know some people that still talk to their parents but even those aren't that common. One was told that she was afflicted with demonic possession by her catholic mother.

If not one has a good relationship with your parents, consider your own behavior as one of the reasons. My kid is being told to reject us, not the other way around.

Nobody is telling any kid to reject a supportive family member. Nobody. All you have are lies.

DP but I actually have a related experience in my family. My second cousin, whom I do not know very well, decided to transition from female to male. He sent an email to our entire extended family - probably like 30 or 40 email addresses - to announce his transition. The email was long and elf absorbed. About half the people responded with supportive messages. No one said anything unsupportive. My second cousin then sent a second email accusing the family as a whole of being transphobic and terrible people because - some - people failed to respond. No acknowledgement that maybe they just didn’t check their email or didn’t know him that well or felt like we were already innundated with repetitive supportive emails. He announced he was cutting himself off from the family. Mind you I’ve only met this person like five times in my life. It was so unnecessary. So I actually believe PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Locked doors and attending private school will bot protect your kids from gun violence. Sorry private school parents.

But they can hire their own armed security.

Imagine a church with armed security. Couldn’t they just pray for God’s protection? Or maybe they don’t really believe deep down that God will save them?

I think you might be surprised at how many churches have parishioners who conceal carry.
And, clergy who do the same.
My church does. And, we have a local Sheriff who makes visits to 3 churches in our area every Sunday. In uniform. For security.

Surprised that christians are hypocrites? Yeah right!

Jesus once said that he could call down the legions of heaven, but his disciples still carried swords on their persons. Jesus whipped people. He had no problem with violence in certain situations.

You're trying to play gotcha here, but it doesn't work.